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Hymer
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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Hello,
I am looking at speeds for cable, dsl, and T1. I think I have it right based
on my reading. But I was not sure if I might be making a mistake about the
unit of measure.
Does this seem right?
Cable: 4.0 Mbsp down, 384 Kbps up
DSL: 1.5 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up
T1: 1.1 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up
If these speeds are correct, the fastest would be cable. I was surprised
that T1 was not faster.
Does this seem right or are my units of measure wrong?
Thanks,
Bob |
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Tom Stiller
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:40 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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In article <cHh_e.477$Aw.6618@typhoon.sonic.net>,
"Hymer" <ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote:
| Quote: | Hello,
I am looking at speeds for cable, dsl, and T1. I think I have it right based
on my reading. But I was not sure if I might be making a mistake about the
unit of measure.
Does this seem right?
Cable: 4.0 Mbsp down, 384 Kbps up
DSL: 1.5 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up
T1: 1.1 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up
If these speeds are correct, the fastest would be cable. I was surprised
that T1 was not faster.
Does this seem right or are my units of measure wrong?
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My cable ISP (Comcast) currently provides 6 Mb/s, measured a few minutes
ago in excess of 7 Mb/s.
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Bert Hyman
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:47 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net (Hymer) wrote in
news:cHh_e.477$Aw.6618@typhoon.sonic.net:
| Quote: | Does this seem right?
Cable: 4.0 Mbsp down, 384 Kbps up
DSL: 1.5 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up
T1: 1.1 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up
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At the moment, Qwest sells me a 7Mbps DSL line.
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com |
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Andrew Rossmann
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:15 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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In article <cHh_e.477$Aw.6618@typhoon.sonic.net>, ergobob@sonic
[REMOVE].net says...
| Quote: | Hello,
I am looking at speeds for cable, dsl, and T1. I think I have it right based
on my reading. But I was not sure if I might be making a mistake about the
unit of measure.
Does this seem right?
Cable: 4.0 Mbsp down, 384 Kbps up
DSL: 1.5 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up
T1: 1.1 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up
If these speeds are correct, the fastest would be cable. I was surprised
that T1 was not faster.
Does this seem right or are my units of measure wrong?
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As you see, the T1 line is the same both ways. Also, the speeds are
often guaranteed. Cable/DSL speeds are usually just guaranteed 'up to'
the rating.
Comcast has a 'gold' service that is currently 6000/768. Both that and
the regular are in the process of having the down limit being bumped up
by 2000 (to 6000/384 or 8000/768.) Some other cable services offer 10M
or higher download speeds.
DSL speeds most commonly vary depending on your distance and line
quality.
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Hymer
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:14 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for the reply. I was asking about this because I came across a deal
for Comcast Cable for $29.99 for 12 months, no contract. I also have access
to T1 in my apartment building and currently have DSL. But, both the T1 and
DSL are more expensive.
I think that the cable with 384KBps up and 4 MBps down sound great for
$29.99. Would you all agree?
Bob
"Andrew Rossmann" <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1da3727d4d37c03398973b@newsgroups.comcast.net...
| Quote: | In article <cHh_e.477$Aw.6618@typhoon.sonic.net>, ergobob@sonic
[REMOVE].net says...
Hello,
I am looking at speeds for cable, dsl, and T1. I think I have it right
based
on my reading. But I was not sure if I might be making a mistake about
the
unit of measure.
Does this seem right?
Cable: 4.0 Mbsp down, 384 Kbps up
DSL: 1.5 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up
T1: 1.1 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up
If these speeds are correct, the fastest would be cable. I was surprised
that T1 was not faster.
Does this seem right or are my units of measure wrong?
As you see, the T1 line is the same both ways. Also, the speeds are
often guaranteed. Cable/DSL speeds are usually just guaranteed 'up to'
the rating.
Comcast has a 'gold' service that is currently 6000/768. Both that and
the regular are in the process of having the down limit being bumped up
by 2000 (to 6000/384 or 8000/768.) Some other cable services offer 10M
or higher download speeds.
DSL speeds most commonly vary depending on your distance and line
quality.
--
If there is a no_junk in my address, please REMOVE it before replying!
All junk mail senders will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the
law!!
http://home.att.net/~andyross |
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Ron Hunter
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:26 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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Hymer wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Guys,
Thanks for the reply. I was asking about this because I came across a deal
for Comcast Cable for $29.99 for 12 months, no contract. I also have access
to T1 in my apartment building and currently have DSL. But, both the T1 and
DSL are more expensive.
I think that the cable with 384KBps up and 4 MBps down sound great for
$29.99. Would you all agree?
Bob
Yes. What is the price AFTER the initial period? |
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Lucas Tam
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:27 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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"Hymer" <ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote in news:Kuj_e.493$Aw.7056
@typhoon.sonic.net:
| Quote: | I think that the cable with 384KBps up and 4 MBps down sound great for
$29.99. Would you all agree?
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Well since it's no contract, why not give it a try - cancel it if you don't
like the service : )
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Please delete "REMOVE" from the e-mail address when replying.
Newmarket Volvo Sucks! http://newmarketvolvo.tripod.com |
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Reed
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:15 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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Hymer wrote:
| Quote: |
Hello,
I am looking at speeds for cable, dsl, and T1. I think I have it right based
on my reading. But I was not sure if I might be making a mistake about the
unit of measure.
Does this seem right?
Cable: 4.0 Mbsp down, 384 Kbps up
DSL: 1.5 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up
T1: 1.1 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up
If these speeds are correct, the fastest would be cable. I was surprised
that T1 was not faster.
Does this seem right or are my units of measure wrong?
Thanks,
Bob
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A little clarification on T-1 (aka DS-1).
T-1/DS-1 was invented approx. 40 years ago as a method of
transporting 24 analog voice conversations on a 4 wire circuit.
Its raw speed is 1.544 Mbps, bidirectional. Usable speed is 1.536
Mbps as 8Kbps is used for syncronization. (24 x 64Kbps ea =
1.536Mbps) Data capabilities, either Full or Fractional T-1, were
added later.
Typically used by businesses that can afford the cost, and need
the "guaranteed" uptime, and 7x24 repair, that you don't get with
DSL or cable.
--reed |
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Quaoar
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:39 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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Hymer wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Guys,
Thanks for the reply. I was asking about this because I came across a
deal for Comcast Cable for $29.99 for 12 months, no contract. I also
have access to T1 in my apartment building and currently have DSL.
But, both the T1 and DSL are more expensive.
I think that the cable with 384KBps up and 4 MBps down sound great for
$29.99. Would you all agree?
Bob
"Andrew Rossmann" <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote in
message news:MPG.1da3727d4d37c03398973b@newsgroups.comcast.net...
In article <cHh_e.477$Aw.6618@typhoon.sonic.net>, ergobob@sonic
[REMOVE].net says...
Hello,
I am looking at speeds for cable, dsl, and T1. I think I have it
right based
on my reading. But I was not sure if I might be making a mistake
about the
unit of measure.
Does this seem right?
Cable: 4.0 Mbsp down, 384 Kbps up
DSL: 1.5 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up
T1: 1.1 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up
If these speeds are correct, the fastest would be cable. I was
surprised that T1 was not faster.
Does this seem right or are my units of measure wrong?
As you see, the T1 line is the same both ways. Also, the speeds are
often guaranteed. Cable/DSL speeds are usually just guaranteed 'up
to' the rating.
Comcast has a 'gold' service that is currently 6000/768. Both that
and the regular are in the process of having the down limit being
bumped up by 2000 (to 6000/384 or 8000/768.) Some other cable
services offer 10M or higher download speeds.
DSL speeds most commonly vary depending on your distance and line
quality.
--
If there is a no_junk in my address, please REMOVE it before
replying! All junk mail senders will be prosecuted to the fullest
extent of the law!!
http://home.att.net/~andyross
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What do you intend to do with your broadband access? All of these
download speeds are more than sufficient for anything on the web, email.
If that is all you want, then subscribe to the cheapest service.
Anything else, you need to evaluate the upload speed.
Q |
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Hymer
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:45 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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"Quaoar" <quaoar@tenthplanet.net> wrote in message
news:JvOdnY4bd6PSaaTeRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
| Quote: | Hymer wrote:
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the reply. I was asking about this because I came across a
deal for Comcast Cable for $29.99 for 12 months, no contract. I also
have access to T1 in my apartment building and currently have DSL.
But, both the T1 and DSL are more expensive.
I think that the cable with 384KBps up and 4 MBps down sound great for
$29.99. Would you all agree?
Bob
"Andrew Rossmann" <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote in
message news:MPG.1da3727d4d37c03398973b@newsgroups.comcast.net...
In article <cHh_e.477$Aw.6618@typhoon.sonic.net>, ergobob@sonic
[REMOVE].net says...
Hello,
I am looking at speeds for cable, dsl, and T1. I think I have it
right based
on my reading. But I was not sure if I might be making a mistake
about the
unit of measure.
Does this seem right?
Cable: 4.0 Mbsp down, 384 Kbps up
DSL: 1.5 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up
T1: 1.1 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up
If these speeds are correct, the fastest would be cable. I was
surprised that T1 was not faster.
Does this seem right or are my units of measure wrong?
As you see, the T1 line is the same both ways. Also, the speeds are
often guaranteed. Cable/DSL speeds are usually just guaranteed 'up
to' the rating.
Comcast has a 'gold' service that is currently 6000/768. Both that
and the regular are in the process of having the down limit being
bumped up by 2000 (to 6000/384 or 8000/768.) Some other cable
services offer 10M or higher download speeds.
DSL speeds most commonly vary depending on your distance and line
quality.
--
If there is a no_junk in my address, please REMOVE it before
replying! All junk mail senders will be prosecuted to the fullest
extent of the law!!
http://home.att.net/~andyross
What do you intend to do with your broadband access? All of these
download speeds are more than sufficient for anything on the web, email.
If that is all you want, then subscribe to the cheapest service. Anything
else, you need to evaluate the upload speed.
Q
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Hi Guys,
I agree - go with the cheapest service. The Comcast deal is 29.99 for 12
months, no contract, and goes to their normal rate of something like $45/mo.
after it is over.
I am just uploading and downloading documents for business. But most of the
time I am just using the Internet in the usual ways.
I just wasn't sure if I was missing the unit of measurement (byte vs. bit)
when looking at the various services.
Thanks a lot,
Bob |
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James Knott
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:09 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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Hymer wrote:
| Quote: | Hello,
I am looking at speeds for cable, dsl, and T1. I think I have it right
based on my reading. But I was not sure if I might be making a mistake
about the unit of measure.
Does this seem right?
Cable: 4.0 Mbsp down, 384 Kbps up
DSL: 1.5 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up
T1: 1.1 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up
If these speeds are correct, the fastest would be cable. I was surprised
that T1 was not faster.
Does this seem right or are my units of measure wrong?
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A DS1 (T1) runs at 1.544 Mb/s. ADSL and cable modems can run at a variety
of speeds, some faster and some slower than a DS1. In my own case, my
modem runs at 5 Mb/s down and 800 Kb/s up, so it's more than 3x faster than
a DS1 for downloads, and 1/2 DS1 speed for uploads. |
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$Bill
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:20 am Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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Hymer wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Guys,
I agree - go with the cheapest service. The Comcast deal is 29.99 for 12
months, no contract, and goes to their normal rate of something like $45/mo.
after it is over.
I am just uploading and downloading documents for business. But most of the
time I am just using the Internet in the usual ways.
I just wasn't sure if I was missing the unit of measurement (byte vs. bit)
when looking at the various services.
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Most cable is migrating up to 5-6 Kbps (Kilobits per second) downstream and
..5 Kbps or so upstream. If you getting much less than that, $45 starts
becoming expensive compared to DSL at maybe $30 or so and slightly less
bandwidth. |
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$Bill
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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James Knott wrote:
| Quote: | $Bill wrote:
Most cable is migrating up to 5-6 Kbps (Kilobits per second) downstream
and .5 Kbps or so upstream.
5-6 Kbps? That's slower than dialup. Perhaps you meant Mbps?
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Brain fart. ;) Of course - that K should be an M etc. |
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James Knott
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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$Bill wrote:
| Quote: | Most cable is migrating up to 5-6 Kbps (Kilobits per second) downstream
and .5 Kbps or so upstream.
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5-6 Kbps? That's slower than dialup. Perhaps you meant Mbps? |
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Hymer
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Speed of cable vs. dsl vs T1? |
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"$Bill" <news@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote in message
news:R7KdncJ8aLVnvafeRVn-pw@adelphia.com...
| Quote: | Hymer wrote:
Hi Guys,
I agree - go with the cheapest service. The Comcast deal is 29.99 for 12
months, no contract, and goes to their normal rate of something like
$45/mo.
after it is over.
I am just uploading and downloading documents for business. But most of
the
time I am just using the Internet in the usual ways.
I just wasn't sure if I was missing the unit of measurement (byte vs.
bit)
when looking at the various services.
Most cable is migrating up to 5-6 Kbps (Kilobits per second) downstream
and
.5 Kbps or so upstream. If you getting much less than that, $45 starts
becoming expensive compared to DSL at maybe $30 or so and slightly less
bandwidth.
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Hi Bill,
I am now paying $42.99 for DSL 384 Kbps up and 1.5 Mbps down.
Cable at $29.99 for 384 Kbps up and 4 Mbps down sounds very attractive to
me.
Do you agree?
Bob |
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