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Al Dykes
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Sat May 14, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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Is there a linksys or similar cheapo dsl home router that can use DHCP
to assign static IPs based on requesting MAC address ?
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Al Dykes
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Sat May 14, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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In article <118a6ktjd8i06d4@corp.supernews.com>, Dana <anon@noneya.com> wrote:
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"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
news:d63592$94a$1@panix5.panix.com...
Is there a linksys or similar cheapo dsl home router that can use DHCP
to assign static IPs based on requesting MAC address ?
The only way to get a static address from a DSL provider is to request one
from your provider.
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I'm asking the DHCP server in the SOHO router to assign
addresses. ou're think of NAT.
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Robert Redelmeier
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Sat May 14, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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Al Dykes <adykes@panix.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Is there a linksys or similar cheapo dsl home router that can
use DHCP to assign static IPs based on requesting MAC address ?
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Good question! Forcing a MAC->IP assignment. I haven't seen
any, but my DHCP always returns the same addresses. They pretty
much have to, since the port-blocking/fwding and DMZ work on IP,
not MAC. I get non sequential, so I presume it hashes the MAC
in some way. If there were a collision, then two machines might
flip-flop.
BTW, I believe NAT is totally independant of DHCP. I've configued
machines the old way with static IPs, netmasks, routing & gateways
and the router handles them fine. Some older machines (macs?)
do not do DHCP. Of course you have to watch out for collisions!
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Dana
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Sat May 14, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
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Is there a linksys or similar cheapo dsl home router that can use DHCP
to assign static IPs based on requesting MAC address ?
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The only way to get a static address from a DSL provider is to request one
from your provider.
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James Knott
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Sat May 14, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
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Al Dykes wrote:
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Is there a linksys or similar cheapo dsl home router that can use DHCP
to assign static IPs based on requesting MAC address ?
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Why not just configure a static IP? |
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Dr. Anton T. Squeegee
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Sat May 14, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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In article <d635t2$7md$1@panix5.panix.com>, adykes@panix.com says...
| Quote: | In article <118a6ktjd8i06d4@corp.supernews.com>, Dana <anon@noneya.com> wrote:
"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
news:d63592$94a$1@panix5.panix.com...
Is there a linksys or similar cheapo dsl home router that can use DHCP
to assign static IPs based on requesting MAC address ?
The only way to get a static address from a DSL provider is to request one
from your provider.
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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
I'm asking the DHCP server in the SOHO router to assign
addresses. ou're think of NAT.
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I've seen the feature to assign static IP's from the router's
internal DHCP side, based on MAC address, in D-Link products.
While I wouldn't (now) recommend D-Link to my worst enemy, I would
not be at all surprised if better makes, such as Netgear, also have the
capability.
Suggestion: Many manufacturers make their equipment user manuals
freely available for download, no matter if you already own the unit or
not. You would probably do well to grab such, and check the setup
instructions for the device's internal DHCP feature (if any -- some few
don't have it).
Happy hunting.
--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
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James T. White
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Sun May 15, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
news:d63592$94a$1@panix5.panix.com...
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Is there a linksys or similar cheapo dsl home router that can use DHCP
to assign static IPs based on requesting MAC address ?
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Al,
My ZyXEL ZyWall2 will allow you to map IP's to specific MAC addresses via DHCP
and I think most of the other ZyXEL products will too since they run pretty much
the same software..
For the other vendors, you should be able to download a user manual for any of
the routers you are considering off the vendor's website so you can verify that
it will do what you want and give you some idea of how easy or difficult the
device is to configure.
Good hunting.......
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Sun May 15, 2005 5:33 am Post subject:
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Dr. Anton T. Squeegee <SpammersAreVermin@dev.null> wrote:
| Quote: | I've seen the feature to assign static IP's from the router's
internal DHCP side, based on MAC address, in D-Link products.
While I wouldn't (now) recommend D-Link to my worst enemy, I would
not be at all surprised if better makes, such as Netgear, also have the
capability.
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I was going to say exactly that, Verizon's FIOS router is a D-Link
DI-624 which has the Static DHCP feature, but I really hate D-Link,
and I've added another for a firewall between me and them. Linksys
routers don't seem that have that feature, but I'm having other
Linksys problems and am about to try another vendor (probably
Netgear). |
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Sun May 15, 2005 5:34 am Post subject:
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James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Al Dykes wrote:
Why not just configure a static IP?
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Because when the DNS servers your ISP provides changes, the changes
don't propagate through the router and you have to go change them all
over again. Static DHCP is really quite useful. |
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James Knott
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Sun May 15, 2005 6:51 am Post subject:
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William P. N. Smith wrote:
| Quote: | James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
Why not just configure a static IP?
Because when the DNS servers your ISP provides changes, the changes
don't propagate through the router and you have to go change them all
over again. Static DHCP is really quite useful.
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Normally, those firewall/router boxes use RFC1918 addresses on the local lan
side, which have absolutely nothing to do with what your ISP assigns to
your connection. For example, if your local lan is 192.168.1.x, the dhcp
server in that box will assign addresses in that range or you can assign
static addresses within that range. You can even do both at the same time.
However, those addresses bear absolutely no relationship to the address you
get from the ISP. Your router has to accept whatever address is assigned
to it, but that does not affect your local network. |
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Mon May 16, 2005 12:02 am Post subject:
Re: Are there any home DSL routers that can allocate static |
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James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | William P. N. Smith wrote:
James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
Why not just configure a static IP?
Because when the DNS servers your ISP provides changes, the changes
don't propagate through the router and you have to go change them all
over again. Static DHCP is really quite useful.
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Sorry, I may not have explained that properly. If you assign a Static
IP address to a machine, you also (*) have to configure static DNS
server addresses. If your ISP changes their DNS server addresses, you
have to then go to each machine that you've assigned a static IP to
and change the DNS server addresses.
If you use Static DHCP, the client is always assigned the same IP
address, but the DNS server addresses will be assigned dynamically.
(*) Yeah, there are always exceptions, as some SOHO routers do DNS
passthru, where the router assigns itself as the DNS server and relays
DNS traffic to the servers assigned by the ISP, but that gets us back
to D-Link, which we've agreed to hate for the purposes of this
discussion. 8*| |
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J. Clarke
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Sun May 29, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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William P. N. Smith wrote:
| Quote: | James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
William P. N. Smith wrote:
James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
Why not just configure a static IP?
Because when the DNS servers your ISP provides changes, the changes
don't propagate through the router and you have to go change them all
over again. Static DHCP is really quite useful.
????
Sorry, I may not have explained that properly. If you assign a Static
IP address to a machine, you also (*) have to configure static DNS
server addresses. If your ISP changes their DNS server addresses, you
have to then go to each machine that you've assigned a static IP to
and change the DNS server addresses.
If you use Static DHCP, the client is always assigned the same IP
address, but the DNS server addresses will be assigned dynamically.
(*) Yeah, there are always exceptions, as some SOHO routers do DNS
passthru, where the router assigns itself as the DNS server and relays
DNS traffic to the servers assigned by the ISP, but that gets us back
to D-Link, which we've agreed to hate for the purposes of this
discussion. 8*|
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At least one Netgear model also does this as do some Linksys models IIRC.
Or one can set up a local DNS server.
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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Walter Roberson
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Mon May 30, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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In article <1117462757.543006.279100@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
<anybody43@hotmail.com> wrote:
:> Is there a linksys or similar cheapo dsl home router that can use > DHCP to assign static IPs based on requesting MAC address ?
:ftp://ftp.linksys.com/datasheet/befsr41v3_ds.pdf
:Says:
:The Router can act as a DHCP server for your network
But can it examine MAC addresses on the LAN side and use the MAC
address to assign a static IP address through DHCP ?
I have the befsv41 (befsr plus vpns) and the befsv41 cannot do the job.
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Mon May 30, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Is there a linksys or similar cheapo dsl home router that can use > DHCP to assign static IPs based on requesting MAC address ?
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ftp://ftp.linksys.com/datasheet/befsr41v3_ds.pdf
Says:
The Router can act as a DHCP server for your network
This router has an Ethernet port for the outside
one. |
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