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Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
What is VLAN, how it is used?. I have 4 PC's on one LAN conn |
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What is VLAN, why it is needed?, how it is used in real LAN
environment, what will be the advantage of that?.
Also I have a server, which is sending some special packets over
Network, how can I capture those packets and I need to send those
packets to my application?. It is special packets, how can I
differentiate from regular traffic?. Let me ask this way, if I want to
send special packets to some other client, which is connected over LAN,
how can I send those packets to that.
Thanks. |
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Michael Roberts
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:
Re: What is VLAN, how it is used?. I have 4 PC's on one LAN |
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Santa,
I would suggest doing some googling on 802.1q for help with VLANs and
how they work. In very simple terms, 802.1q adds a 4 byte shim to the
ethernet packet that contains VLAN ID information. This will allow
802.1q compliant switches to virtualize those packets to their own
broadcast domain. Others might want to add another 2 cents. Or argue
with my explanation. (:
For packet captures, download ethereal and pcap and have fun. Start
taking captures and put together all the pieces starting at layer 2
headers and work your way up through the frame. Have fun!
-mike
santa19992000@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | What is VLAN, why it is needed?, how it is used in real LAN
environment, what will be the advantage of that?.
Also I have a server, which is sending some special packets over
Network, how can I capture those packets and I need to send those
packets to my application?. It is special packets, how can I
differentiate from regular traffic?. Let me ask this way, if I want to
send special packets to some other client, which is connected over LAN,
how can I send those packets to that.
Thanks.
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Ghazan Haider
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Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject:
Re: What is VLAN, how it is used?. I have 4 PC's on one LAN |
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Speaking of what is a VLAN...
How are they used by most switches? Our 3com switch 'learns' the VLAN
addresses of anything connected to its ports, but theres no way to
force a port to a VLAN. I thought one purpose of a vlan is security,
but if I change my IP from 192.168.0.111 to 10.0.0.66 I can jump onto
the class C address segment because the switch 'learns' my VLAN
address.
Is there a list of switches and their VLAN functionality out there?
Better still is there a specific word describing how to force a VLAN
on a port? |
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Walter Roberson
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Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
Re: What is VLAN, how it is used?. I have 4 PC's on one LAN |
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In article <1ad1e8b9.0502111059.5e7da2e4@posting.google.com>,
Ghazan Haider <ghazan.haider@gmail.com> wrote:
:Is there a list of switches and their VLAN functionality out there?
There isn't even a list of -manufacturers- of switches, let alone
of what the details are for particular models.
--
vi -- think of it as practice for the ROGUE Olympics! |
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Manfred Kwiatkowski
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Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:15 am Post subject:
Re: What is VLAN, how it is used?. I have 4 PC's on one LAN |
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In article <1ad1e8b9.0502111059.5e7da2e4@posting.google.com>,
ghazan.haider@gmail.com (Ghazan Haider) writes:
| Quote: | Speaking of what is a VLAN...
How are they used by most switches? Our 3com switch 'learns' the VLAN
addresses of anything connected to its ports, but theres no way to
force a port to a VLAN. I thought one purpose of a vlan is security,
but if I change my IP from 192.168.0.111 to 10.0.0.66 I can jump onto
the class C address segment because the switch 'learns' my VLAN
address.
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Most probable your 3Com does not care about VLANs at all. Although
there are Switches (namely Xylan/Alcatel) that use protocol based VLANs
i.e. assign VLAN port mebership (layer 2) according to higher layer
information contained in the packet, this is not the rule.
A simple secondary address scheme could be the cause of what you
encounter.
The purpose of VLANs is flexibility, efficiency and maybe privacy.
Security is a state of mind, not of technology.
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Manfred Kwiatkowski kwiatkowski@zrz.tu-berlin.de |
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T. Sean Weintz
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Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:33 am Post subject:
Re: What is VLAN, how it is used?. I have 4 PC's on one LAN |
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Ghazan Haider wrote:
| Quote: | Speaking of what is a VLAN...
How are they used by most switches? Our 3com switch 'learns' the VLAN
addresses of anything connected to its ports, but theres no way to
force a port to a VLAN. I thought one purpose of a vlan is security,
but if I change my IP from 192.168.0.111 to 10.0.0.66 I can jump onto
the class C address segment because the switch 'learns' my VLAN
address.
Is there a list of switches and their VLAN functionality out there?
Better still is there a specific word describing how to force a VLAN
on a port?
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Sounds as if you do not have vlans at all. Sounds as if you are simplty
running multiple IP subnets on the same switch.
If you did not specify a vlan setup on the switch, then you are not
using vlans (OK, there ARE ways to do it without configuring the switch,
but that would assume A) you had network cards on all devices that
allowed the cards to tag packets, and if you knew how to do that you
would not be asking the above questions, and B) you would have to have a
switch that has GARP enabled in it's default config, and I have never
heard of such)
VLANS are layer two and have nothing at all to do with IP address. |
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