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Rick S.
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject:
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So now that everybody has gotten rid of their old 56k modems, it can
be said...
mp3 was a good thing. A giant TCP/IP exists now, with what ? A hundred
million broadband connections, world wide ?
This is is a good thing, and mp3 was "the killer application" that caused
a signficant portion of folks to get broadband. In the same way that
PowerMate, Lotus 1-2-3, and Wordperfect launched the PC revolution.
Would it have happened as quickly without mp3 ? I certainly don't think
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Steinar Haug
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject:
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[Rick S.]
| mp3 was a good thing. A giant TCP/IP exists now, with what ? A hundred
| million broadband connections, world wide ?
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| This is is a good thing, and mp3 was "the killer application" that caused
| a signficant portion of folks to get broadband. In the same way that
| PowerMate, Lotus 1-2-3, and Wordperfect launched the PC revolution.
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| Would it have happened as quickly without mp3 ? I certainly don't think
| so.
Looking at it that way you could equally well argue that porn was the
killer application.
Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no |
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Tony Nelson
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Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:27 am Post subject:
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In article <cm2nfv.1ub1.1@bizet.nethelp.no>,
sthaug@nethelp.no (Steinar Haug) wrote:
| Quote: | [Rick S.]
| mp3 was a good thing. A giant TCP/IP exists now, with what ? A hundred
| million broadband connections, world wide ?
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| This is is a good thing, and mp3 was "the killer application" that caused
| a signficant portion of folks to get broadband. In the same way that
| PowerMate, Lotus 1-2-3, and Wordperfect launched the PC revolution.
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| Would it have happened as quickly without mp3 ? I certainly don't think
| so.
Looking at it that way you could equally well argue that porn was the
killer application.
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Just as long as it was something unsavory or illegal!
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TonyN.:' tonynlsn@shore.net
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Earl Camembert
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Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:29 am Post subject:
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On 31 Oct 2004 04:35:15 -0800, ricks123@hotpop.com (Rick S.) wrote:
| Quote: | So now that everybody has gotten rid of their old 56k modems, it can
be said...
mp3 was a good thing. A giant TCP/IP exists now, with what ? A hundred
million broadband connections, world wide ?
This is is a good thing, and mp3 was "the killer application" that caused
a signficant portion of folks to get broadband. In the same way that
PowerMate, Lotus 1-2-3, and Wordperfect launched the PC revolution.
Would it have happened as quickly without mp3 ? I certainly don't think
so.
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Porn is what drives the internet not Abba. |
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David H. Lipman
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Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:56 am Post subject:
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Actually Pornographic sites are the most successful and profitable internet businesses.
Dave
"Steinar Haug" <sthaug@nethelp.no> wrote in message news:cm2nfv.1ub1.1@bizet.nethelp.no...
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| Looking at it that way you could equally well argue that porn was the
| killer application.
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| Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no |
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David H. Lipman
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Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:56 am Post subject:
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I'll drink to that Earl !
Dave ;-)
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| Porn is what drives the internet not Abba. |
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Rick S.
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:47 pm Post subject:
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote
| Quote: | Actually Pornographic sites are the most successful and profitable
internet businesses.
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But still, that's a different thing. That doesn't say that the majority
of people that pay $39.95 (or whatever) a month to their ISP for broadband
acess do so because they want to download lots of porn.
Not to say that I know that people that pay the $39.95 (or whatever)
a month because that want to download lots of mp3 files.
And, in fact, it's probably a mixture of things, but the record industry
is sure that their revenues are declining, and downloading a 3meg mp3
file is pretty painful at 56k... so it seems likely some people have shifted
the money they were spending in the CD store to instead pay for broadband
access. Unless people are listening to less music these days, the money
went somewhere.
In fact, to confess up front, what I am saying is only partly true. Or at
least one needs to emphasize the world "helped" in the phrase "mp3 helped
build 'the network' ".
It certainly did that, it helped. How much it helped is debatable, and
whether porn was more or less of a help is also open to debate, I'd
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David H. Lipman
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:59 am Post subject:
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I disagree. because you are in your home and have your privacy -- yes, they do. So much so
that Wall Street has seriously looked at this market as an investment possibility. As for
speed, you talk about MPS's 5-20MB. In this sector are MPEGs, AVI and WMF files that
25~100MB and streaming video that requires broadband. MP3 files are just audio. Video has
more content thus requiring higher bandwidths.
Dave
"Rick S." <ricks123@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote
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| > Actually Pornographic sites are the most successful and profitable
| > internet businesses.
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| But still, that's a different thing. That doesn't say that the majority
| of people that pay $39.95 (or whatever) a month to their ISP for broadband
| acess do so because they want to download lots of porn.
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| Not to say that I know that people that pay the $39.95 (or whatever)
| a month because that want to download lots of mp3 files.
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| And, in fact, it's probably a mixture of things, but the record industry
| is sure that their revenues are declining, and downloading a 3meg mp3
| file is pretty painful at 56k... so it seems likely some people have shifted
| the money they were spending in the CD store to instead pay for broadband
| access. Unless people are listening to less music these days, the money
| went somewhere.
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| In fact, to confess up front, what I am saying is only partly true. Or at
| least one needs to emphasize the world "helped" in the phrase "mp3 helped
| build 'the network' ".
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| It certainly did that, it helped. How much it helped is debatable, and
| whether porn was more or less of a help is also open to debate, I'd
| say. |
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NormanM
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:07 am Post subject:
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In article <21790eb9.0411030247.42c1476@posting.google.com>, Rick S. says...
| Quote: | ...but the record industry is sure that their revenues are declining, and
downloading a 3meg mp3 file is pretty painful at 56k... so it seems likely
some people have shifted the money they were spending in the CD store to
instead pay for broadband access. Unless people are listening to less
music these days, the money went somewhere.
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India? China? I spend much less money on RIAA stuff than I did in the late
80s, early 90s. No, I do not have an extensive collection of stolen RIAA
mp3s, either. But, yes, I have spent that money elsewhere. I have a pretty
sizeable collection of manga, CDs (purchased at 2x U.S. prices charged by
RIAA member publishers; but worth every penny spent), and region 2 coded
DVDs. As well a large number of, mostly, non-RIAA member publisher's region
1 coded DVDs. At least I don't think that ADV Films, AnimEigo, or VIZ Video
are associated with the RIAA.
Mostly I don't like the new music peddled by the RIAA member publishers, so
I spend my money elsewhere. They are too self-centered to see that a lot of
their sales vanished because they don't offer what some of us would buy.
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Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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wkearney99
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:47 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Mostly I don't like the new music peddled by the RIAA member publishers,
so
I spend my money elsewhere. They are too self-centered to see that a lot
of
their sales vanished because they don't offer what some of us would buy.
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Bingo. Same crap peddled for way too much money. All while actively
antagonizing the leading edge user base. Which, in turn, communicates to
the masses about not supporting the RIAA. They've dug their own graves but
just don't know they're dead yet. |
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