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Andrew Aronoff
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Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:47 pm Post subject:
Why does NetMeeting under W2K SP4 require an Administrator a |
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I'm using NetMeeting under W2K SP4. I normally log in as a Power User
for security reasons and reserve the Admin account for worthy
occasions. I run behind a router/firewall; ports 1503 and 1720 have
been opened in both directions. Until recently, I had no problem using
NetMeeting this way.
For the last couple of months, after the connection's established,
those I call hear me, but I can't hear them. I eventually determined
that the problem could be avoided by logging in as an Administrator.
Since NetMeeting works properly when I use an Admin account, the
router is not the whole issue.
Why would logging in as a Power User prevent me from hearing those I
call? What might have changed in the last few months to block incoming
audio? What might I monitor to find out?
regards, Andy
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:51 pm Post subject:
Re: Why does NetMeeting under W2K SP4 require an Administrat |
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Andrew Aronoff wrote:
| Quote: | I'm using NetMeeting under W2K SP4. I normally log in as a Power User
for security reasons and reserve the Admin account for worthy
occasions. I run behind a router/firewall; ports 1503 and 1720 have
been opened in both directions. Until recently, I had no problem using
NetMeeting this way.
For the last couple of months, after the connection's established,
those I call hear me, but I can't hear them. I eventually determined
that the problem could be avoided by logging in as an Administrator.
Since NetMeeting works properly when I use an Admin account, the
router is not the whole issue.
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That sounds logical -- this is s call to the same party around the same
time -- you are sure there is not a problem at the other end?
Is video affected the same way?
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Why would logging in as a Power User prevent me from hearing those I
call? What might have changed in the last few months to block incoming
audio? What might I monitor to find out?
regards, Andy
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I don't know what the problem might be.
Can you run the audio tuning wizard successfully from your non-admin
account?
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Andrew Aronoff
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Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:13 am Post subject:
Re: Why does NetMeeting under W2K SP4 require an Administrat |
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Hi, Brian.
Thanks for your quick reply. Answers in-line.
"Brian Sullivan MVP" <brians@WORMTIREDmeetingbywire.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Andrew Aronoff wrote:
I'm using NetMeeting under W2K SP4. I normally log in as a Power User
for security reasons and reserve the Admin account for worthy
occasions. I run behind a router/firewall; ports 1503 and 1720 have
been opened in both directions. Until recently, I had no problem using
NetMeeting this way.
For the last couple of months, after the connection's established,
those I call hear me, but I can't hear them. I eventually determined
that the problem could be avoided by logging in as an Administrator.
Since NetMeeting works properly when I use an Admin account, the
router is not the whole issue.
That sounds logical -- this is s call to the same party around the same
time -- you are sure there is not a problem at the other end?
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The call was to the same party at the same time. There is no problem
at the other end. I have 4 O/S's installed on my PC in separate
partitions: W98SE, NT4, W2K & WXP. NetMeeting is installed in each one
(separately, of course). NetMeeting worked in each one with the same
person at the same time (accounting for shutdown & restart) _except_
W2K (my default system) when logged in as a Power User (my default
login). It worked in W2K with Admin rights. I was logged in to NT4 &
WXP only as an Admin (these are test-only systems).
| Quote: | Is video affected the same way?
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I don't use video so I don't know.
| Quote: | Why would logging in as a Power User prevent me from hearing those I
call? What might have changed in the last few months to block incoming
audio? What might I monitor to find out?
regards, Andy
I don't know what the problem might be.
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I'm sorry to hear that. I was hoping this was a known problem.
| Quote: | Can you run the audio tuning wizard successfully from your non-admin
account?
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The audio tuning wizard completes normally. That makes sense, since it
ensures my speakers work (they do) and my mike works (and it does --
the person I'm calling hears *me* just fine.)
The last time I successfully used NetMeeting as a Power User under W2K
SP4 was mid-February. It had stopped working by early April. Over that
period, I installed the following audio-related software upgrades (in
every case, there was already an earlier version present on the
system):
MSN Messenger 6.1.0211
Realtek AC'97 WDM Audio Drivers 5.10.0.5490
Matrox WHQL drivers 5.92.006
RealPlayer 10 6.0.12.857
Winamp 5.03
Maybe one of these will "ring a bell" -- one I can hear -- with
someone else.
regards, Andy
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject:
Re: Why does NetMeeting under W2K SP4 require an Administrat |
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Andrew Aronoff wrote:
| Quote: | MSN Messenger 6.1.0211
Realtek AC'97 WDM Audio Drivers 5.10.0.5490
Matrox WHQL drivers 5.92.006
RealPlayer 10 6.0.12.857
Winamp 5.03
Maybe one of these will "ring a bell" -- one I can hear -- with
someone else.
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Nothing specific rings a bell -- unfortunately all are in the right
"general" area for causing some sort of sound problem. Sound card drivers
seem the most likely cause.
All I can suggest is to try to roll back changes/install old versions to see
if any are the cause,
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Andrew Aronoff
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Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject:
Re: Why does NetMeeting under W2K SP4 require an Administrat |
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| Quote: | I'm using NetMeeting under W2K SP4. I normally log in as a Power
User...I run behind a router/firewall... Until recently, I had no
problem using NetMeeting this way.
The last time I successfully used NetMeeting as a Power User under W2K
SP4 was mid-February. It had stopped working by early April. Over that
period, I installed the following audio-related software upgrades (in
every case, there was already an earlier version present on the
system):
MSN Messenger 6.1.0211
Realtek AC'97 WDM Audio Drivers 5.10.0.5490
Matrox WHQL drivers 5.92.006
RealPlayer 10 6.0.12.857
Winamp 5.03
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I closed MSN Messenger, RealPlayer (and its spyware process), and
Winamp, but I could not hear incoming audio in NetMeeting with a Power
User account. I then tried two previous versions of the Realtek
drivers (one of them WHQL-certified) and NetMeeting behavior did not
change. I did all tests over the LAN, so the router was out of the
loop. I have difficulty believing that the Matrox driver is
implicated.
Unfortunately, I do not audit the logged-in user account and now I'm
not so sure I *ever* successfully ran NetMeeting under W2K SP4 as a
Power User, despite having blithely affirmed it twice. Have you (or
has anyone else out there) been able to conduct an audio conversation
in NetMeeting as a Power User under W2K SP4? Again, incoming audio is
blocked on my box unless I use an Admin account.
regards, Andy
Brian Sullivan wrote:
| Quote: | Andrew Aronoff wrote:
MSN Messenger 6.1.0211
Realtek AC'97 WDM Audio Drivers 5.10.0.5490
Matrox WHQL drivers 5.92.006
RealPlayer 10 6.0.12.857
Winamp 5.03
Maybe one of these will "ring a bell" -- one I can hear -- with
someone else.
Nothing specific rings a bell -- unfortunately all are in the right
"general" area for causing some sort of sound problem. Sound card drivers
seem the most likely cause.
All I can suggest is to try to roll back changes/install old versions to see
if any are the cause,
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Andrew Aronoff wrote on an earlier occasion:
| Quote: | I'm using NetMeeting under W2K SP4. I normally log in as a Power User
for security reasons and reserve the Admin account for worthy
occasions. I run behind a router/firewall; ports 1503 and 1720 have
been opened in both directions. Until recently, I had no problem using
NetMeeting this way.
For the last couple of months, after the connection's established,
those I call hear me, but I can't hear them. I eventually determined
that the problem could be avoided by logging in as an Administrator.
Since NetMeeting works properly when I use an Admin account, the
router is not the whole issue.
Why would logging in as a Power User prevent me from hearing those I
call? What might have changed in the last few months to block incoming
audio? What might I monitor to find out?
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject:
Re: Why does NetMeeting under W2K SP4 require an Administrat |
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Andrew Aronoff wrote:
implicated.
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Unfortunately, I do not audit the logged-in user account and now I'm
not so sure I *ever* successfully ran NetMeeting under W2K SP4 as a
Power User, despite having blithely affirmed it twice. Have you (or
has anyone else out there) been able to conduct an audio conversation
in NetMeeting as a Power User under W2K SP4? Again, incoming audio is
blocked on my box unless I use an Admin account.
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I don't have a Win2k box equipped so I am not sure. I think there have been
problems with permissions accessing some sound drivers on Win2k but that
seems not be the case with your problem.
Obviously it is a permissions issue but I can't think of a straightforward
way to diagnose the problem.
Maybe there is a Win2K user out there that can do some tests to see if this
is a problem specific to your configuration....
Anyone?
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Andrew Aronoff
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Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:47 am Post subject:
Re: Why does NetMeeting under W2K SP4 require an Administrat |
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| Quote: | Obviously it is a permissions issue but I can't think of a straightforward
way to diagnose the problem.
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BTW, I tried using Sysinternals RegMon (ver. 6.06) and FileMon (same
version number) to identify a permissions problem. I looked at
registry/file permissions from NetMeeting startup through to reception
of incoming audio on a completed connection. I was not able to
identify any registry keys or files to which access was denied, which
leads me to believe it's connected to O/S internals. It's been my
experience that when there are no obvious access problems, the O/S
isn't allowing the attempts to occur.
If someone else knows more about NetMeeting under W2K SP4 using a
Power User account, your post will be appreciated.
regards, Andy
"Brian Sullivan MVP" <brians@WORMTIREDmeetingbywire.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Andrew Aronoff wrote:
implicated.
Unfortunately, I do not audit the logged-in user account and now I'm
not so sure I *ever* successfully ran NetMeeting under W2K SP4 as a
Power User, despite having blithely affirmed it twice. Have you (or
has anyone else out there) been able to conduct an audio conversation
in NetMeeting as a Power User under W2K SP4? Again, incoming audio is
blocked on my box unless I use an Admin account.
I don't have a Win2k box equipped so I am not sure. I think there have been
problems with permissions accessing some sound drivers on Win2k but that
seems not be the case with your problem.
Obviously it is a permissions issue but I can't think of a straightforward
way to diagnose the problem.
Maybe there is a Win2K user out there that can do some tests to see if this
is a problem specific to your configuration....
Anyone?
--
Brian Sullivan
Meeting by Wire ( http://www.meetingbywire.com)
------------
Is your PC protected? --
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp
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