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Frank B Denman
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:52 pm Post subject:
Attaching J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls? |
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What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching stuff like J-hooks
and backboards to cinderblock walls?
I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year, so I'm
hoping I don't need a $500 tool.
Thanks for your help.
Frank
Frank Denman
Denman Systems
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Carl Navarro
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject:
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:52:42 -0800, Frank B Denman
<usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
| Quote: | What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching stuff like J-hooks
and backboards to cinderblock walls?
I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year, so I'm
hoping I don't need a $500 tool.
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Looks like two choices, Tapcon's or a Remington power tool.
Probably just depends on what speed you want.
Carl Navarro |
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Robert Redelmeier
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject:
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Frank B Denman <usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
| Quote: | What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching
stuff like J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls?
I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year,
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If you have access, drill & anchor works well. Powder-actuated
tools are quicker and work for hangers in plenum.
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:26 pm Post subject:
Re: Attaching J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls? |
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"Frank B Denman" <usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching stuff like
J-hooks
and backboards to cinderblock walls?
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A 3/8" hammer drill like the Skil Extratool to make drilling holes less
difficult. Ear plugs will make your ears happy. Then some masonry
anchors in various sizes. I'vwe never done backboards but I use #8 or
#10 sheetemetal screws and the plastic anchors for panduit, and I think
the carbide tipped drill is 3/16" or 1/4", whatever the package
recommends.
I don't remember what the Skil cost, and anyway it was along time ago.
Probably under $70 today. It works fine as a regular 3/8" drill at
other times. Mine was a regular corded, but here's a cordless version
for $100.
http://www.courier-journal.com/gizweb/cols/02/020330.htm
I'll never forget the time I had to borrow a half inch hammerdrill from
the maintenance dept at work. They gave me a big old timer, think it
was a Milwaukee, and a 18" long 3/4" bit. I got halfway thru a double
thick cinderblock inside wall, and the drill bit got stuck. I put it in
reverse, but it wouldn't budge. Damn! So I left the bit in the wall,
removed the drill, and got off the ladder and packed up and went over to
the maintenance dept to get some help. Turned out the old Milwaukee
wasn't capable of putting out enough torque to do the job, and another
decent drill took care of it. Whew! Thought we were gonna have to use
dynamite to remove it!
| Quote: | I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year, so I'm
hoping I don't need a $500 tool.
Thanks for your help.
Frank
Frank Denman
Denman Systems
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:08 pm Post subject:
Re: Attaching J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls? |
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"Robert Redelmeier" <redelm@ev1.net.invalid> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Frank B Denman <usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching
stuff like J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls?
I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year,
If you have access, drill & anchor works well. Powder-actuated
tools are quicker and work for hangers in plenum.
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I've never had to do those, but from my observations, it looks kind of
scary in some of our bldgs. We have concrete floors and shooting a
Hilti fastener into them seems like it's a good idea, but how do you
keep the concrete chips from splattering down on you?
And in some of our bldgs we have the fireproofing sprayed on, and we're
not sure if it has asbestos or not. The tests that have been run by a
company my employer hired came back no problem, but we didn't trust
these, and the union contracted with another company, just to make sure.
I haven't heard what the latest is on those tests, but we have been told
to not do work in the ceilings of certain bldgs, and they posted
asbestos warning signs in some locations.
Big boss: "Can't you wear a mask when you work up in the ceiling?"
Me: "Yes, but these are plenums, and when I work up there and stir up
the dust, it circulates thru the whole bldg, exposing *everyone* to the
asbestos!"
Big boss: Gulp! "Oh... Uh...."
DUH...
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Frank B Denman
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:16 pm Post subject:
Re: Attaching J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls? |
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Of the various tools recommended, which are likely to produce the least
debris and require the least amount of wall repair?
And can anybody give me enough info to Google the Remington tool that
Carl suggested?
Thanks.
Frank Denman
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:22:50 GMT, Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:52:42 -0800, Frank B Denman
usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching stuff like J-hooks
and backboards to cinderblock walls?
I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year, so I'm
hoping I don't need a $500 tool.
Looks like two choices, Tapcon's or a Remington power tool.
Probably just depends on what speed you want.
Carl Navarro
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Denman Systems
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Al Dykes
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject:
Re: Attaching J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls? |
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In article <jfvks0d40513pi4b8h4v1u2erd3mtj6897@4ax.com>,
Frank B Denman <usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Of the various tools recommended, which are likely to produce the least
debris and require the least amount of wall repair?
And can anybody give me enough info to Google the Remington tool that
Carl suggested?
Thanks.
Frank Denman
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IMO the tapcons, with the drill are the neatest. They make a little
dust and since you use a normal hand drill you can feel the material
as you drill. A hammer drill will get you in faster, but you (or at
least I) lose any feel for the material.
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:22:50 GMT, Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:52:42 -0800, Frank B Denman
usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching stuff like J-hooks
and backboards to cinderblock walls?
I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year, so I'm
hoping I don't need a $500 tool.
Looks like two choices, Tapcon's or a Remington power tool.
Probably just depends on what speed you want.
Carl Navarro
Frank Denman
Denman Systems
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Carl Navarro
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject:
Re: Attaching J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls? |
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:16:44 -0800, Frank B Denman
<usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Of the various tools recommended, which are likely to produce the least
debris and require the least amount of wall repair?
And can anybody give me enough info to Google the Remington tool that
Carl suggested?
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The keywords are remington powder tool. Home Depot sells 'em. A fast
Google brought http://www.masterdist.net/rempat/
Carl
| Quote: | Thanks.
Frank Denman
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:22:50 GMT, Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:52:42 -0800, Frank B Denman
usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching stuff like J-hooks
and backboards to cinderblock walls?
I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year, so I'm
hoping I don't need a $500 tool.
Looks like two choices, Tapcon's or a Remington power tool.
Probably just depends on what speed you want.
Carl Navarro
Frank Denman
Denman Systems
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject:
Re: Attaching J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls? |
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"Frank B Denman" <usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Of the various tools recommended, which are likely to produce the
least
debris and require the least amount of wall repair?
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Well, if you want zero debris, then use lots of construction adhesive,
and those Hilti or Ramset shoot-em-in nails. But the nails tend to
split the concrete and chunks fall out. But if you're smart, you won't
be around when the backboard is removed. ;-)
| Quote: | And can anybody give me enough info to Google the Remington tool that
Carl suggested?
Thanks.
Frank Denman
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:22:50 GMT, Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:52:42 -0800, Frank B Denman
usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching stuff like
J-hooks
and backboards to cinderblock walls?
I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year, so I'm
hoping I don't need a $500 tool.
Looks like two choices, Tapcon's or a Remington power tool.
Probably just depends on what speed you want.
Carl Navarro
Frank Denman
Denman Systems
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Tekkie
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 6:54 am Post subject:
Re: Attaching J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls? |
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" posted for all of us....
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"Robert Redelmeier" <redelm@ev1.net.invalid> wrote in message
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Frank B Denman <usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote:
What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching
stuff like J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls?
I'm probably going to set less than a hundred anchors/year,
If you have access, drill & anchor works well. Powder-actuated
tools are quicker and work for hangers in plenum.
I've never had to do those, but from my observations, it looks kind of
scary in some of our bldgs. We have concrete floors and shooting a
Hilti fastener into them seems like it's a good idea, but how do you
keep the concrete chips from splattering down on you?
And in some of our bldgs we have the fireproofing sprayed on, and we're
not sure if it has asbestos or not. The tests that have been run by a
company my employer hired came back no problem, but we didn't trust
these, and the union contracted with another company, just to make sure.
I haven't heard what the latest is on those tests, but we have been told
to not do work in the ceilings of certain bldgs, and they posted
asbestos warning signs in some locations.
Big boss: "Can't you wear a mask when you work up in the ceiling?"
Me: "Yes, but these are plenums, and when I work up there and stir up
the dust, it circulates thru the whole bldg, exposing *everyone* to the
asbestos!"
Big boss: Gulp! "Oh... Uh...."
DUH...
-- Robert
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Tekkie
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 6:58 am Post subject:
Re: Attaching J-hooks and backboards to cinderblock walls? |
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" posted for all of us....
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"Frank B Denman" <usenet@denmansystemsx.com> wrote in message
news:b1dis0t4pqipv9bju8j59ibjpuugupmg1v@4ax.com...
What's the right tool and anchor system for attaching stuff like
J-hooks
and backboards to cinderblock walls?
A 3/8" hammer drill like the Skil Extratool to make drilling holes less
difficult. Ear plugs will make your ears happy. Then some masonry
anchors in various sizes. I'vwe never done backboards but I use #8 or
#10 sheetemetal screws and the plastic anchors for panduit, and I think
the carbide tipped drill is 3/16" or 1/4", whatever the package
recommends.
I don't remember what the Skil cost, and anyway it was along time ago.
Probably under $70 today. It works fine as a regular 3/8" drill at
other times. Mine was a regular corded, but here's a cordless version
for $100.
http://www.courier-journal.com/gizweb/cols/02/020330.htm
I'll never forget the time I had to borrow a half inch hammerdrill from
the maintenance dept at work. They gave me a big old timer, think it
was a Milwaukee, and a 18" long 3/4" bit. I got halfway thru a double
thick cinderblock inside wall, and the drill bit got stuck. I put it in
reverse, but it wouldn't budge. Damn! So I left the bit in the wall,
removed the drill, and got off the ladder and packed up and went over to
the maintenance dept to get some help. Turned out the old Milwaukee
wasn't capable of putting out enough torque to do the job, and another
decent drill took care of it. Whew! Thought we were gonna have to use
dynamite to remove it!
Never knew a Milwaukee tool that couldn't cut it. That's probably why they |
lent it to you; because the had beat the crap/life out it.
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