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billurie
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:18 am    Post subject: Netmeeting and MSN Messenger Reply with quote

In these groups, for Webcam communication, we were
advised to go to NSN Messenger 6.2 .... and we did, and 2-way
Webcam is working fine. But we can get no audio either way.
It just may be that NetMeeting is still there, in the way
somehow.

I went to uninstall it, but can't find it via Add/Remove programs,
and not in the Microsoft list under Add/Remove.

Please, how do I take NetMeeting out of the picture? And as an
aside, any advice about the audio in MSN Messenger would be welcome.
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: Netmeeting and MSN Messenger Reply with quote

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 18:18:11 -0500, billurie wrote:

Quote:
In these groups, for Webcam communication, we were
advised to go to NSN Messenger 6.2 .... and we did, and 2-way
Webcam is working fine. But we can get no audio either way.
It just may be that NetMeeting is still there, in the way
somehow.


NetMeeting is still there -- but it is not affecting your Messenger
audio/video.


Quote:

I went to uninstall it, but can't find it via Add/Remove programs,
and not in the Microsoft list under Add/Remove.

NetMeeting cannot be removed -- it is part of the protected file system and
cannot be deleted, removed or renamed. Parts of NetMeeting are required for
Messenger operation.

Quote:

Please, how do I take NetMeeting out of the picture? And as an
aside, any advice about the audio in MSN Messenger would be welcome.

NetMeeting is out of the picture -- it is not affecting audio in Messenger.

The most likely cause for lack of audio connection in Messenger is that one
or both of the parties is behind a NAT or firewall without UPnP NAT
traversal features.

Is either party behind a router or firewall?


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Brian Sullivan (MVP)
Meeting by Wire ( www.meetingbywire.com)
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billurie
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Netmeeting and MSN Messenger Reply with quote

Brian Sullivan MVP wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 18:18:11 -0500, billurie wrote:


In these groups, for Webcam communication, we were
advised to go to NSN Messenger 6.2 .... and we did, and 2-way
Webcam is working fine. But we can get no audio either way.
It just may be that NetMeeting is still there, in the way
somehow.



NetMeeting is still there -- but it is not affecting your Messenger
audio/video.



I went to uninstall it, but can't find it via Add/Remove programs,
and not in the Microsoft list under Add/Remove.


NetMeeting cannot be removed -- it is part of the protected file system and
cannot be deleted, removed or renamed. Parts of NetMeeting are required for
Messenger operation.


Please, how do I take NetMeeting out of the picture? And as an
aside, any advice about the audio in MSN Messenger would be welcome.


NetMeeting is out of the picture -- it is not affecting audio in Messenger.

The most likely cause for lack of audio connection in Messenger is that one
or both of the parties is behind a NAT or firewall without UPnP NAT
traversal features.

Is either party behind a router or firewall?


Okay, Brian, you've convinced me. We will just allow NetMeeting to rest

quietly in place, since it isn't bothering MSN Messenger. We are working
on the UPnP compatibility. In my post to Efrain I explained that
my ISP last night took over my computer and upgraded my DSL modem to
be UPnP compatible, and later today we'll try some more video+audio.
Thank you.
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Frank Thompson
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Netmeeting and MSN Messenger Reply with quote

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:07:53 -0500, billurie <billurie@nospam.org>
wrote:

Quote:
Brian Sullivan MVP wrote:

firewall without UPnP NAT
traversal features.

. We are working
on the UPnP compatibility. In my post to Efrain I explained that
my ISP last night took over my computer and upgraded my DSL modem to
be UPnP compatible,

DSL will become available for me later this year. Because of hoped
for improvement over dialup for video conferencing applications I plan
to subscribe. What do you mean by UPnP? Should I enquire about
that before subscribing?

Frank
remote rural Georgia
correct email is gno52@alltel.net
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Netmeeting and MSN Messenger Reply with quote

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:46:47 -0500, Frank Thompson wrote:


Quote:
DSL will become available for me later this year. Because of hoped
for improvement over dialup for video conferencing applications I plan
to subscribe. What do you mean by UPnP? Should I enquire about
that before subscribing?

Msn Messenger uses a strategy called UPnP NAT traversal to allow incoming
and outgoing audio/video calls ( and some other features) to function when
the user is behind a NAT. NATs are generally routers or firewalls. If your
DSL provider puts you behind a NAT ( some supply routers or modems that are
NATs) the NAT must support UPnP NAT traversal for Messenger to be able to
do anything (other than simple text messaging).

I would ask the DSL provider about both NAT and UPnP NAT traversal.


--
Brian Sullivan (MVP)
Meeting by Wire ( www.meetingbywire.com)
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billurie
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Netmeeting and MSN Messenger Reply with quote

Frank Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:07:53 -0500, billurie <billurie@nospam.org
wrote:


Brian Sullivan MVP wrote:


firewall without UPnP NAT

traversal features.


. We are working

on the UPnP compatibility. In my post to Efrain I explained that
my ISP last night took over my computer and upgraded my DSL modem to
be UPnP compatible,


DSL will become available for me later this year. Because of hoped
for improvement over dialup for video conferencing applications I plan
to subscribe. What do you mean by UPnP? Should I enquire about
that before subscribing?

Frank
remote rural Georgia
correct email is gno52@alltel.net
Frank, I wish I could explain what UPnP means, but I can't

They brought it up, I checked, my
modem didn't have it, my ISP (BellSouth) upgraded my
modem so it has it.

When you go DSL, I suggest making sure they do it
the first time.
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