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jeff · Guest

I recently moved locally from one North NJ town to another. I had Optimum
Online at the old place and it worked great. I currently have Optimum
Online cable at the new place and it also works great. Based on some
testing I did, I think I get up to 3.5 megabits per second download speed,
depending on the internet traffic, and maybe up to 700 kbs upload

(For cable, some tests do claim I get as high as 7 or more megabits per
second download, but I doubt that, in reality, I typically am getting
anything much beyond 3.5, and often, in the real word it's even less)

The phone company (verizon) talked me into a 30 day trial of 3.0mbs/768kbs
DSL (or maybe it is 3.2/768?? This is a fast speed for DSL, and is $5 per
month cheaper compared to cable. I just installed it and seems to work
nicely. I get roughly up to 2.5 megabits per second download, and maybe
around 650-700kbs upload.

Yes, technically the cable typically a bit faster, and, yes, some speed
tests do claim the cable is twice as fast as the DSL, but I suspect that in
most real world usage there isn't really much difference in speed between
the two.

I'm just wondering if there are any long term Verizon DSL users in Northern
NJ, and if you've experienced good reliable service? Is the service
reliable or are there frequent outages/slowdowns?

Assuming an equal reliability compared to cable, the only reasons to switch
to DSL would be:

1) slightly less expensive
2) dedicated connection which PRESUMABLY will be consistent in speed
regardless of whether your neighbors in the vicinity are all using the
internet
3) verizon seems to allow servers and will even give you some storage space
(not sure how much)
(not sure I'd care about running a server though)
4) Presumably the DSL is more secure, meaning that hackers with nothing
better to do would be less likely to intercept the signal and spy on me with
a dedicated connection than when the signal is shared with the neighborhood.
5) PRESUMABLY no risk of the connection getting slower as more neighbors
subscribe to high speed internet.
6) If I shut off the DSL modem overnight, I get assigned a new IP address
the next morning which makes it less likely that marketers could track my
surfing based on the IP address (optimum online seems to typically assign
me the same address for months/years at a time even if I shut the modem off
for days)
7) DSL is not dependent upon the cable company (should I ever decide to
reduce my cable TV plan to a bare-bones plan, I'll still get a good ISP
price)

Most of these, if true, seem like advantages.

Assuming equal reliablity The negatives for DSL are:

1) slower overall on speed tests than cable (although I suspect not
significantly slower in the real world and still quite fast) Probably this
DSL is just as fast as the cable internet I had at the old place and in the
real world almost as fast as the cable in the new place.

2) With DSL, I can't keep the same email address I've had for years

3) While I have 30 days to try out DSL without obligation, should DSL turns
out to be erratic after the 30 days, or should develops speed problems at
any point, I will then feel like a FOOL for switching from cable internet.

4) I won't be able to brag about having cable internet which is technically
the faster of the two. (see number 1 above)

Anyway, I'm just wondering how happy Verizon DSL users are in Northern NJ
(no need to reply if you're outside northern NJ). Is Verizon DSL reliable?
If Verizon DSL in nothern NJ isn't as reliable as cable then I won't switch,
period.

Thanks,

J.

Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com · Guest

That was a long message, so I'll post on top to make it visible.

Anyways, we've had Verizon (eastern PA) for two years or so in the office,
and I had to take Verizon DSL at home after I moved and nobody else was
serving the area. The service has been as good as the other providers I
was involved with over time. It does have hiccups from time to time (as
anybody else's), but they seem to be able to resolve quicker that anyone
else. I normally don't have to call the problem in which I hated, but had
to do with other providers.

Customer support with Verizon tends to be terrible most of the time, and
mostly in billing. Techs are almost always not available, but if you are
lucky and get through, they are always very helpful.

The speed always varies because it greatly depends on capacity of the
resource you are accessing in that particular moment, so don't go by the
speed exclusively.

BTW, Verizon Online is a separate entity as far as I can understand, and
they do share equipment with other providers at the Central Office, so,
you are most likely coming through the same boxes as with other DSL
providers in your area, just sending your check to a different place. That
was the case with me until I moved to a Verizon-only area.

One thing I like Verizon for: awesome Usenet servers! ;-) Cable service in
my area - Comcast - really sucks in this (non-existent).

With all the research you've done so far I'd say "stay with Verizon", but
that's obviously your call.

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Dmitri Abaimov, RCDD
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jeff wrote:

David H. Lipman · Guest

Jeff:

I'm in Eastern Monmouth and I am extremely happy with Verizon.

Dave

"jeff" <jeff23news@optonline.net> wrote in message news:b0vod.2446$_R5.1419@fe05.lga...
| I recently moved locally from one North NJ town to another. I had Optimum
| Online at the old place and it worked great. I currently have Optimum
| Online cable at the new place and it also works great. Based on some
| testing I did, I think I get up to 3.5 megabits per second download speed,
| depending on the internet traffic, and maybe up to 700 kbs upload
|
| (For cable, some tests do claim I get as high as 7 or more megabits per
| second download, but I doubt that, in reality, I typically am getting
| anything much beyond 3.5, and often, in the real word it's even less)
|
| The phone company (verizon) talked me into a 30 day trial of 3.0mbs/768kbs
| DSL (or maybe it is 3.2/768?? This is a fast speed for DSL, and is $5 per
| month cheaper compared to cable. I just installed it and seems to work
| nicely. I get roughly up to 2.5 megabits per second download, and maybe
| around 650-700kbs upload.
|
| Yes, technically the cable typically a bit faster, and, yes, some speed
| tests do claim the cable is twice as fast as the DSL, but I suspect that in
| most real world usage there isn't really much difference in speed between
| the two.
|
| I'm just wondering if there are any long term Verizon DSL users in Northern
| NJ, and if you've experienced good reliable service? Is the service
| reliable or are there frequent outages/slowdowns?
|
| Assuming an equal reliability compared to cable, the only reasons to switch
| to DSL would be:
|
| 1) slightly less expensive
| 2) dedicated connection which PRESUMABLY will be consistent in speed
| regardless of whether your neighbors in the vicinity are all using the
| internet
| 3) verizon seems to allow servers and will even give you some storage space
| (not sure how much)
| (not sure I'd care about running a server though)
| 4) Presumably the DSL is more secure, meaning that hackers with nothing
| better to do would be less likely to intercept the signal and spy on me with
| a dedicated connection than when the signal is shared with the neighborhood.
| 5) PRESUMABLY no risk of the connection getting slower as more neighbors
| subscribe to high speed internet.
| 6) If I shut off the DSL modem overnight, I get assigned a new IP address
| the next morning which makes it less likely that marketers could track my
| surfing based on the IP address (optimum online seems to typically assign
| me the same address for months/years at a time even if I shut the modem off
| for days)
| 7) DSL is not dependent upon the cable company (should I ever decide to
| reduce my cable TV plan to a bare-bones plan, I'll still get a good ISP
| price)
|
| Most of these, if true, seem like advantages.
|
| Assuming equal reliablity The negatives for DSL are:
|
| 1) slower overall on speed tests than cable (although I suspect not
| significantly slower in the real world and still quite fast) Probably this
| DSL is just as fast as the cable internet I had at the old place and in the
| real world almost as fast as the cable in the new place.
|
| 2) With DSL, I can't keep the same email address I've had for years
|
| 3) While I have 30 days to try out DSL without obligation, should DSL turns
| out to be erratic after the 30 days, or should develops speed problems at
| any point, I will then feel like a FOOL for switching from cable internet.
|
| 4) I won't be able to brag about having cable internet which is technically
| the faster of the two. (see number 1 above)
|
| Anyway, I'm just wondering how happy Verizon DSL users are in Northern NJ
| (no need to reply if you're outside northern NJ). Is Verizon DSL reliable?
| If Verizon DSL in nothern NJ isn't as reliable as cable then I won't switch,
| period.
|
| Thanks,
|
| J.
|
|

zeppo · Guest

The Usenet part is good to know. I've got Cavalier DSL (also in Eastern PA)
and AFAIKT availability and speed are identical to friends that have
Verizon. Considering my phone bill only went up $20 a month when I added DSL
to my Cavalier service I was tickled pink.

Unfortunately, Cavtel's news servers suck major wind. Binary retention
averages about a day and the servers are frequently unavailable.

I'm shopping for a news service.

Jon

"Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)" <info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com> wrote
in message news:qxIod.4985751$ic1.467390@news.easynews.com...

Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com · Guest

zeppo wrote:

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