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SpongeHead
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:33 am    Post subject: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

At random times, my connection will stop transmitting. Using P2P
programs I can see the transfer rates at 0 and web browsing get page
cant be displayed. The modem is active and what I have to do is power
off the modem for a second and turn back on and the connection goes
back to normal.
I have done the latest firmware update even though was the same but
did anyway just to be sure. I downloaded some xp winsock fix, that
didnt do anything. The filter is where its supposed to be, no line
noise at all. It was all working fine up until about 2 weeks ago.
It kind of sucks when leaving the pc for an overnight download and
find it doing nothing.
Anyone else experiencing this issue or anyone know some fixes or files
to replace?
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

You can get excellent support for this in...

news://news.verison.net/0.verizon.adsl

Dave



"SpongeHead" <hgoodale_msp@msn.com> wrote in message
news:be84687b.0411181433.94e580f@posting.google.com...
| At random times, my connection will stop transmitting. Using P2P
| programs I can see the transfer rates at 0 and web browsing get page
| cant be displayed. The modem is active and what I have to do is power
| off the modem for a second and turn back on and the connection goes
| back to normal.
| I have done the latest firmware update even though was the same but
| did anyway just to be sure. I downloaded some xp winsock fix, that
| didnt do anything. The filter is where its supposed to be, no line
| noise at all. It was all working fine up until about 2 weeks ago.
| It kind of sucks when leaving the pc for an overnight download and
| find it doing nothing.
| Anyone else experiencing this issue or anyone know some fixes or files
| to replace?
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Spongehead
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:<6Kand.12598$wY2.4451@trndny05>...
Quote:
You can get excellent support for this in...

news://news.verison.net/0.verizon.adsl

Dave



I tried every possible combination of server names, secure,

authentication, and yes I did change the "S" in Verison to a "Z",
first I got authentication error, so I tried my verizon UN and PW than
I got not enough verification, and still cant logon to the newsgroup.
I am using outlook express 6.
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Spongehead
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:<6Kand.12598$wY2.4451@trndny05>...
Quote:
You can get excellent support for this in...

news://news.verison.net/0.verizon.adsl

Dave



I cant connect to that newsgroup, atleast with outlook express. I did

try and change the S in Verison to a Z, but still no luck.
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:17 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

OOOps that was a typo, sorry :-(

However, news://news.verizon.net/0.verizon.adsl is valid.
If you can't resolve news.verizon.net you can try; news://199.45.49.11/0.verizon.adsl
temporarily.

In OE for this account check "this server requires me to logon"
Then enter the "primary account" name and "password".

Dave




"Spongehead" <thegoodales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c4ee34f8.0411201411.419845db@posting.google.com...
| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:<6Kand.12598$wY2.4451@trndny05>...
| > You can get excellent support for this in...
| >
| > news://news.verison.net/0.verizon.adsl
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| >
| I cant connect to that newsgroup, atleast with outlook express. I did
| try and change the S in Verison to a Z, but still no luck.
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Spongehead
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

Nevermind, just a fluke, its all working now. I'll subscribe to a few
things here and see what happens. I am curious to know if I'm being
"capped" in some way. It is constantly downloading and I know the
RIAA and the MPAA have started another rampage.
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I tried every possible combination of server names, secure,
authentication, and yes I did change the "S" in Verison to a "Z",
first I got authentication error, so I tried my verizon UN and PW than
I got not enough verification, and still cant logon to the newsgroup.
I am using outlook express 6.
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SpongeHead
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:38 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:<LnPnd.2088$ld2.573@trnddc05>...
Quote:
OOOps that was a typo, sorry :-(

However, news://news.verizon.net/0.verizon.adsl is valid.
If you can't resolve news.verizon.net you can try; news://199.45.49.11/0.verizon.adsl
temporarily.

In OE for this account check "this server requires me to logon"
Then enter the "primary account" name and "password".

I got it to work and posted my problem. All I got for a response was

"They are watching you." Not very helpful.
I was able to keep the transfers going for 24 hours only because the
transfer speed down never reached more than 25 Kpbs. The modem seems
to stop transmitting when going over into the 50's and up. So, it
sounds like theres an overload of some sort.
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

Funny, I didn't see it -- and I looked for it.

Dave



"SpongeHead" <hgoodale_msp@msn.com> wrote in message
news:be84687b.0411241338.182aa98e@posting.google.com...
| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:<LnPnd.2088$ld2.573@trnddc05>...
| > OOOps that was a typo, sorry :-(
| >
| > However, news://news.verizon.net/0.verizon.adsl is valid.
| > If you can't resolve news.verizon.net you can try; news://199.45.49.11/0.verizon.adsl
| > temporarily.
| >
| > In OE for this account check "this server requires me to logon"
| > Then enter the "primary account" name and "password".
| >
| I got it to work and posted my problem. All I got for a response was
| "They are watching you." Not very helpful.
| I was able to keep the transfers going for 24 hours only because the
| transfer speed down never reached more than 25 Kpbs. The modem seems
| to stop transmitting when going over into the 50's and up. So, it
| sounds like theres an overload of some sort.
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SpongeHead
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:<iY7pd.3475$6m2.2126@trnddc04>...
Quote:
Funny, I didn't see it -- and I looked for it.

Dave

I posted in 0.verizon.adsl subject is modem stops transmitting
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

Yes..I see.

You went from a technical question to bringing up capping and the RIAA. Would did you
expect ?

Repost with the subject used in this thread. Don't mention the RIAA !

Verizon does NOT cap. You should get no less than 90~95% of the rated download speed. If
you don't... there is something wrong.

Dave




"SpongeHead" <hgoodale_msp@msn.com> wrote in message
news:be84687b.0411241853.537b1461@posting.google.com...
| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:<iY7pd.3475$6m2.2126@trnddc04>...
| > Funny, I didn't see it -- and I looked for it.
| >
| > Dave
| >
| I posted in 0.verizon.adsl subject is modem stops transmitting
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SpongeHead
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:<2ucpd.8751$5v1.5864@trnddc06>...
Quote:
Yes..I see.

You went from a technical question to bringing up capping and the RIAA. Would did you
expect ?

Repost with the subject used in this thread. Don't mention the RIAA !

Verizon does NOT cap. You should get no less than 90~95% of the rated download speed. If
you don't... there is something wrong.

Dave


The only thing I expect from a news group is an answer, it was just

not the one I was looking for. I have heard of ISP's trying to stop
connections with constant downloads especially at high rates of speed,
is why I mentioned the connection being capped, and only because the
RIAA is putting pressure on everybody. So, if Verizon doesnt care
what and how much you up/download, brings me to my first technical
question, why is my connection stopping? When I am up/downloading, it
is going at the rate I am subscribed for.
I did repost on the verizon newsgroup with this thread subject in the
subject line.
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Robert Redelmeier
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

SpongeHead <hgoodale_msp@msn.com> wrote:
Quote:
first technical question, why is my connection stopping?

Stopping? There is a known issue with TCP not being able to fully
use the other direction if one direction is fully saturated.
The ACKs don't get through. This usually happens on ADSL when
the narrow upload bandwidth is fully busy, and your downloads
slow to a crawl.

-- Robert
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

Now that you have rephrased the question you are getting competent replies.

Dave



"SpongeHead" <hgoodale_msp@msn.com> wrote in message
news:be84687b.0411261934.22cbae60@posting.google.com...
| The only thing I expect from a news group is an answer, it was just
| not the one I was looking for. I have heard of ISP's trying to stop
| connections with constant downloads especially at high rates of speed,
| is why I mentioned the connection being capped, and only because the
| RIAA is putting pressure on everybody. So, if Verizon doesnt care
| what and how much you up/download, brings me to my first technical
| question, why is my connection stopping? When I am up/downloading, it
| is going at the rate I am subscribed for.
| I did repost on the verizon newsgroup with this thread subject in the
| subject line.
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SpongeHead
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

Robert Redelmeier <redelm@ev1.net.invalid> wrote in message news:<FSSpd.24491$fC4.21856@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>...
Quote:
SpongeHead <hgoodale_msp@msn.com> wrote:
first technical question, why is my connection stopping?

Stopping? There is a known issue with TCP not being able to fully
use the other direction if one direction is fully saturated.
The ACKs don't get through. This usually happens on ADSL when
the narrow upload bandwidth is fully busy, and your downloads
slow to a crawl.

-- Robert

That makes perfect sense, although when running the westell diagnostic
modem utility, it keeps trying to reset than eventually fails. Thats
when I have to turn the power off and back on again.
As a test, what upload limit should I be using for p2p programs?
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Robert Redelmeier
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Issue with Verizon DSL Westell 2200 Reply with quote

SpongeHead <hgoodale_msp@msn.com> wrote:
Quote:
That makes perfect sense, although when running the westell
diagnostic modem utility, it keeps trying to reset than
eventually fails.

This is a little odd, because you have plenty of bandwidth to
and from your modem, it is the upstream line that is limiting.
But perhaps the modem gets too busy to listen to you.

Quote:
Thats when I have to turn the power off and back on again.
As a test, what upload limit should I be using for p2p
programs?

Determine your upload bandwidth (try the bandwidth test at
DSLReports.com), then limit your P2P to never more than 90%.
If it's still a hog, cut to 80%, or do a binary search for
what works OK for you.

To some extent, this depends on your OS, and the "fairness"
of its scheduler (round-robin). I have no confidence in
Microsoft products in this, amongst other, respects.

-- Robert
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