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Kaptain Krunch
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Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:32 am Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bebe8f93b9e80439898da@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
| Quote: | In article <418194E1.63A8@earthlink.net>, mcp6453@earthlink.net says...
Leythos wrote:
In article <6o2dnawdCZdN-BzcRVn-sA@portbridge.com>, mcp6453
@earthlink.net says...
Leythos wrote:
I didn't confirm the above, I bought a D-Link DI-808HV unit and it
worked fine, heck, it can even act as a PPTP end-point if you want
it
too.
When a router is used as a PPTP end-point in a peer-to-peer network,
can
the remote computer access a host computer within the network? Once
the
remote computer validates and connects to the router, how does that
computer access another computer behind the router, if it can?
You are assigned an IP in the subnet of the LAN side of the router -
you
access anything you want in the LAN side subnet by IP.
I see. That makes a lot of sense. Can I use an XP machine to VPN into
the router, or must I have two routers?
The DI-804HV and DI-808HV can act as PPTP end-points, the Linksys units
do not act as PPTP end-points.
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Thats funny, My BEFSX41 is a VPN end point.
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Kaptain Krunch
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Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:33 am Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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"mcp6453" <mcp6453@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Leythos wrote:
I see. That makes a lot of sense. Can I use an XP machine to VPN into
the router, or must I have two routers?
The DI-804HV and DI-808HV can act as PPTP end-points, the Linksys units
do not act as PPTP end-points.
Does that mean that an XP machine can initiate the tunnel, or do I have
to have TWO routers providing an endpoint at each end?
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2 machines can act as a tunnel,,, see the doc
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q252735/ |
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mcp6453
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Sat Oct 30, 2004 2:11 am Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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Leythos wrote:
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In article <418235EF.CDD@earthlink.net>, mcp6453@earthlink.net says...
Leythos wrote:
I see. That makes a lot of sense. Can I use an XP machine to VPN into
the router, or must I have two routers?
The DI-804HV and DI-808HV can act as PPTP end-points, the Linksys units
do not act as PPTP end-points.
Does that mean that an XP machine can initiate the tunnel, or do I have
to have TWO routers providing an endpoint at each end?
It means that you can connect to the router using Windows PPTP VPN.
If you were going to connect two VPN routers to each other, you would be
better off using IPSec tunnels configured in each router.
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Coolness. I think I'll pick one up this weekend and play with it. Thanks
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:43 am Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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I appreciate the information everyone has supplied and I was able to
extract some info. but could someone explain step by step how to set up
this vpn thru my linksys router? My router is linksys befsr41 and want
to vpn into my windows 2000 professional box.
Also - if I've multiple pc's on my network - how do I connect to each
pc thru vpn and select what pc i want to remote into using realvnc.
Please advise.
Thank You,
Dave |
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Doc Octopus
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:03 pm Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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On 27 Oct 2004, Leythos <void@nowhere.org> posted some
news:MPG.1be9449da8ee779c9898bf@news-server.columbus.rr.com:
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I just setup another Windows 2003 server and tried to get the Linksys
units (three of them) to pass PPTP/GRE inbound to the server so that I
could RAS into it and never got it to work. In fact, I spent 2 hours
with the MS Networking Support Team the other night, just to find that
the Linksys units don't pass GRE outbound.
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I run multiple VPN's between 2003 servers using BEFSR41 routers. They've
worked perfectly since day one with never a problem.
PPTP/GRE work fine with a BEFSR41. So do GRE and IPSEC tunnels between
Cisco routers behind BEFSR41's. Takes about a minute to set up a Linksys
'41 to do this. |
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Duane Arnold
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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tvos@ureach.com wrote in news:1099201388.005138.131960
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
| Quote: | I appreciate the information everyone has supplied and I was able to
extract some info. but could someone explain step by step how to set up
this vpn thru my linksys router? My router is linksys befsr41 and want
to vpn into my windows 2000 professional box.
Also - if I've multiple pc's on my network - how do I connect to each
pc thru vpn and select what pc i want to remote into using realvnc.
Please advise.
Thank You,
Dave
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There are two kinds of VPN connections that i know of. One is hardware to
hardware VPN connections like router to router.
The second kind is software VPN connection is software to software like
AT&T Extranet VPN software Client and Host software.
There is plenty of information on how to set a Win 2K Pro O/S (which would
be O/S VPN to O/S VPN connection or software to software VPN connection
using IPSec doing a search with Google or Dogpile.
A router VPN (hardware) to a Win 2K Pro O/S (software) VPN solution is????
Duane :) |
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Duane Arnold
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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tvos@ureach.com wrote in news:1099201388.005138.131960
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
| Quote: | I appreciate the information everyone has supplied and I was able to
extract some info. but could someone explain step by step how to set up
this vpn thru my linksys router? My router is linksys befsr41 and want
to vpn into my windows 2000 professional box.
Also - if I've multiple pc's on my network - how do I connect to each
pc thru vpn and select what pc i want to remote into using realvnc.
Please advise.
Thank You,
Dave
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There are two kinds of VPN connections that i know of. One is hardware to
hardware VPN connections like router to router.
The second kind is software VPN connection is software to software like
AT&T Extranet VPN software Client and Host software.
There is plenty of information on how to set a Win 2K Pro O/S (which would
be O/S VPN to O/S VPN connection or software to software VPN connection
using IPSec doing a search with Google or Dogpile.
A router VPN (hardware) to a Win 2K Pro O/S (software) VPN solution is????
Duane :) |
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Leythos
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:16 pm Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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In article <p-CdnShc8IlOGhncRVn-oA@comcast.com>,
captainkrunch@comcast.net says...
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.org> wrote in message
The DI-804HV and DI-808HV can act as PPTP end-points, the Linksys units
do not act as PPTP end-points.
Thats funny, My BEFSX41 is a VPN end point.
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Your BEFSX41 unit can do PPTP to the ISP (which is not the same thing),
but I don't see a PPTP setting under the VPN setting on the one I have
with the latest firmware.
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Leythos
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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In article <Xns95939468810XSlug27@68.6.19.6>, dococt@kicks-ass.net
says...
| Quote: | On 27 Oct 2004, Leythos <void@nowhere.org> posted some
news:MPG.1be9449da8ee779c9898bf@news-server.columbus.rr.com:
I just setup another Windows 2003 server and tried to get the Linksys
units (three of them) to pass PPTP/GRE inbound to the server so that I
could RAS into it and never got it to work. In fact, I spent 2 hours
with the MS Networking Support Team the other night, just to find that
the Linksys units don't pass GRE outbound.
I run multiple VPN's between 2003 servers using BEFSR41 routers. They've
worked perfectly since day one with never a problem.
PPTP/GRE work fine with a BEFSR41. So do GRE and IPSEC tunnels between
Cisco routers behind BEFSR41's. Takes about a minute to set up a Linksys
'41 to do this.
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Well, I have a BEFVP41, a BEFSX41, and a BEFSR11 unit with the latest
firmware that don't work, but the D-Link did. After installing the D-
Link, and after testing several different versions of firmware on the
BEFVP41 and BEFSR11 I found that I could not get GRE out-bound to work
like I could in prior installations (over 5 rev's of firmware ago). I
went to Linksys's website and found a document on doing PPTP in-bound
sessions that indicate you now have to FORWARD PORT 47 IN-BOUND even
though it should be Protocol 47 and not port 47. I have not taken the
time to setup TCP PORT 1723 AND TCP PORT 47 for a test.
Your experience with the BEFSR41 is the same as mine in prior
installations where needing in-bound PPTP sessions - it seems that the
newer firmware, since CISCO bought them, has changed this.
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Kaptain Krunch
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:07 pm Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.1beea2ced2eb0f479898f5@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
| Quote: | In article <p-CdnShc8IlOGhncRVn-oA@comcast.com>,
captainkrunch@comcast.net says...
"Leythos" <void@nowhere.org> wrote in message
The DI-804HV and DI-808HV can act as PPTP end-points, the Linksys
units
do not act as PPTP end-points.
Thats funny, My BEFSX41 is a VPN end point.
Your BEFSX41 unit can do PPTP to the ISP (which is not the same thing),
but I don't see a PPTP setting under the VPN setting on the one I have
with the latest firmware.
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that because a BEFSX doesnt do PPTP but is you look on the vpn page it DOES
do PFS and 3DES etc with encription to 1028 bit.
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Leythos
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:08 pm Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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In article <_pednZ1-5vdfhhjcRVn-pw@comcast.com>,
captainkrunch@comcast.net says...
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.1beea2ced2eb0f479898f5@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
In article <p-CdnShc8IlOGhncRVn-oA@comcast.com>,
captainkrunch@comcast.net says...
"Leythos" <void@nowhere.org> wrote in message
The DI-804HV and DI-808HV can act as PPTP end-points, the Linksys
units
do not act as PPTP end-points.
Thats funny, My BEFSX41 is a VPN end point.
Your BEFSX41 unit can do PPTP to the ISP (which is not the same thing),
but I don't see a PPTP setting under the VPN setting on the one I have
with the latest firmware.
that because a BEFSX doesnt do PPTP but is you look on the vpn page it DOES
do PFS and 3DES etc with encription to 1028 bit.
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If you look far enough back in the thread you will find that I never
asked/claimed that the linksys unit could be an end-point - I was unable
to get it to pass PPTP IN-BOUND to the VPN Server. Actually, it passed
it in-bound, but it would not permit GRE out-bound.
The D-Link units act as PPTP End-Points and also fully support PPTP in-
bound to VPN servers without any problems.
As it turns out, it appears that Firmware since CISCO bought Linksys has
broken the ability to fully support PPTP In-Bound sessions being passed
through to a VPN server on the LAN side of the network.
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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Hey I didn't realize I was going to start a long discussion here.. Alot
of usefull information.
I guess going back to my original question and looking thru the
previous posts here it is:
1. What ports do I need to turn on and forward on my router?
2. What else needs to be configured on my router?
3. I will be connecting remote from work using client(work) to
host(home) passing through my router. Using connection wizard on 2000
or xp os.
Simple instructions would be usefull. Remember this is my linksys
befsr41 router that I have to pass through to get into my pc at home.
Also, I've tried alot of different setups to get this working but
failure has been the end result. So if someone has there setup working
please email me instructions.
Thank You,
Tvos
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Leythos
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Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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In article <1099242811.131585.313140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
tvos@ureach.com says...
| Quote: | Hey I didn't realize I was going to start a long discussion here.. Alot
of usefull information.
I guess going back to my original question and looking thru the
previous posts here it is:
1. What ports do I need to turn on and forward on my router?
2. What else needs to be configured on my router?
3. I will be connecting remote from work using client(work) to
host(home) passing through my router. Using connection wizard on 2000
or xp os.
Simple instructions would be usefull. Remember this is my linksys
befsr41 router that I have to pass through to get into my pc at home.
Also, I've tried alot of different setups to get this working but
failure has been the end result. So if someone has there setup working
please email me instructions.
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Before I answer your question, do you have permission to connect to your
home computer from work? If so, I bet that your IT department could
easily tell you how to do it.
Connecting to your unsecured computer at your home, through company
resources, risks compromising your entire company network (it only takes
seconds).
A safer method, one that won't get you fired for violation of the
company security policy, would be to burn what you need to CD-R or DVD.
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Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:56 am Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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Leythos,
I appreciate the info. and I understand about security issue's thru
work, home, or other remote locations.
I've been able to setup the vpn connection using my lan network w/no
problems. I noticed when the vpn connection from the client to the host
display properties show the following:
Device: Wan Miniport (PPTP)
Device Type: vpn
Server Type: PPP
Transports: TCP/IP
Authentication: MS Chap V2
Encryption: MPPE 128
Compression: MPPC
PPP Multilink framing: off
Server IP: lan assigned
Client IP: lan assigned
I've opened the following ports from my router: 47,50,500,1723 and
forwarding them to my static ip assigned pc I want to vpn to. Both
udp/tcp are selected.
Also - the filters page of the linksys router have the following
checked as on. Multipass thru:, Ipsec Pass thru, Pptp pass thru:
| Quote: | From looking at this I noticed that the authentication is MS Chap V2.
Is it possibly that the wrong protocol is being used to connect into |
and suppose to be ipsec, pptp?
Any ideas - would be helpfull..
Tvos |
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Leythos
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Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:26 am Post subject:
Re: BEFSR41 Linksys Router & VPN Setup |
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In article <1099263415.084142.197810@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
tvos@ureach.com says...
| Quote: | I've opened the following ports from my router: 47,50,500,1723 and
forwarding them to my static ip assigned pc I want to vpn to. Both
udp/tcp are selected.
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From what Linksys states, I think, you only do TCP, not UDP (both), and
you only need 1723 TCP and 47 TCP with PPTP pass-through enabled.
I was unable to get this working on a BEFSX41, BEFVP41, and a BEFSR41/11
units. I did manage to get it working the D-Link DI-808HV unit I bought
to replace the Linksys unit.
The old firmware in the BEFSR41 units, before CISCO, supported PPTP in-
bound sessions and it worked perfectly.
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