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Mark
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Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject:
trying to use Verizon DSL with linux |
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I read many positive results from linux users using
verizon DSL with the westell 2200 DSL modem.
So I got the kit, but I've found out that the
install process seems to require you to use
Windows only software to get the username/passwd
to log into the network. I had been assuming to
that point that the software was for the MSN
extras stuff that I wasn't going to use anyway.
Since I only have linux
I can't run that and without the password/username
I can't get on. How could I work around this?
Some people say you can call them and say
you are using a router and they will give you
a username password on the phone? I didn't get
that because I'd think they'd tell you to
plug into the modem directly from the pc, do
the setup then swap the cable back to the router
and the router to the modem.
Any ideas?
Mark |
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John Dearing
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Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject:
Re: trying to use Verizon DSL with linux |
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Mark wrote:
| Quote: | I read many positive results from linux users using
verizon DSL with the westell 2200 DSL modem.
So I got the kit, but I've found out that the
install process seems to require you to use
Windows only software to get the username/passwd
to log into the network. I had been assuming to
that point that the software was for the MSN
extras stuff that I wasn't going to use anyway.
Since I only have linux
I can't run that and without the password/username
I can't get on. How could I work around this?
Some people say you can call them and say
you are using a router and they will give you
a username password on the phone? I didn't get
that because I'd think they'd tell you to
plug into the modem directly from the pc, do
the setup then swap the cable back to the router
and the router to the modem.
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Is there *any* way to beg/borrow/steal a Windows box to use temporarily
just to get you past the initial setup??
Otherwise, you're looking at making a call to tech support to walk you
through getting a username/password. You need the username/password only
if you are in a former Bell Atlantic area that uses PPPoE to
authenticate. Some former GTE areas are starting to go to PPPoE but most
are DHCP.
I still think the most expeditious route woule be to borrow a Windows
box and then return it once you are finished.
Good luck!!
John
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John Dearing
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Mark
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Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:07 am Post subject:
Re: trying to use Verizon DSL with linux |
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John Dearing wrote:
| Quote: | Mark wrote:
I read many positive results from linux users using
verizon DSL with the westell 2200 DSL modem.
So I got the kit, but I've found out that the
install process seems to require you to use
Windows only software to get the username/passwd
to log into the network. I had been assuming to
that point that the software was for the MSN
extras stuff that I wasn't going to use anyway.
Since I only have linux
I can't run that and without the password/username
I can't get on. How could I work around this?
Some people say you can call them and say
you are using a router and they will give you
a username password on the phone? I didn't get
that because I'd think they'd tell you to
plug into the modem directly from the pc, do
the setup then swap the cable back to the router
and the router to the modem.
Is there *any* way to beg/borrow/steal a Windows box to use temporarily
just to get you past the initial setup??
Otherwise, you're looking at making a call to tech support to walk you
through getting a username/password. You need the username/password only
if you are in a former Bell Atlantic area that uses PPPoE to
authenticate. Some former GTE areas are starting to go to PPPoE but most
are DHCP.
I still think the most expeditious route woule be to borrow a Windows
box and then return it once you are finished.
Good luck!!
John
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John Dearing
A+, Network+
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John, btw, for the router I'll be using Ipcop 1.4 on a standalone pc
(home page http://www.ipcop.org)
if that changes anything. It supports PPPoE, DHCP, all of it.
Mark |
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John P. Dearing
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Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:09 am Post subject:
Re: trying to use Verizon DSL with linux |
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Mark wrote:
-=[ deletia to save space]=-
| Quote: | John, btw, for the router I'll be using Ipcop 1.4 on a standalone pc
(home page http://www.ipcop.org)
if that changes anything. It supports PPPoE, DHCP, all of it.
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The Westell 2200 can operate in one of two modes. The first, "router"
mode has the device operate much like a small broadband router (think
Linksys, Netgear, etc...). The 2200 has built-in NAT and a PPPoE shim
that will hold your username/password for authentication. It just
doesn't have the built-in switch/hub, you have to add that yourself.
The second mode is called Bridge mode. In this mode the 2200 operates as
a simple DSL modem, that's all, nothing more.
My previous recommendation to use a Windows box to do the account setup
and then you can decide how you'll configure the Westell (router vs
bridge) for your Linux network.
My own preference is to have an appliance do the router/NAT work and
save the PC's for, well, PC work. Unless your doing this as an
educational exercise.
John
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John P. Dearing
A+, Network+
To reply: Just drop "YOURPANTS" in my address! 8-) |
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Mark Schlegel
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Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:24 am Post subject:
Re: trying to use Verizon DSL with linux(success) |
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Mark wrote:
| Quote: | John Dearing wrote:
Mark wrote:
I read many positive results from linux users using
verizon DSL with the westell 2200 DSL modem.
So I got the kit, but I've found out that the
install process seems to require you to use
Windows only software to get the username/passwd
to log into the network. I had been assuming to
that point that the software was for the MSN
extras stuff that I wasn't going to use anyway.
Since I only have linux
I can't run that and without the password/username
I can't get on. How could I work around this?
Some people say you can call them and say
you are using a router and they will give you
a username password on the phone? I didn't get
that because I'd think they'd tell you to
plug into the modem directly from the pc, do
the setup then swap the cable back to the router
and the router to the modem.
Is there *any* way to beg/borrow/steal a Windows box to use
temporarily just to get you past the initial setup??
Otherwise, you're looking at making a call to tech support to walk you
through getting a username/password. You need the username/password
only if you are in a former Bell Atlantic area that uses PPPoE to
authenticate. Some former GTE areas are starting to go to PPPoE but
most are DHCP.
I still think the most expeditious route woule be to borrow a Windows
box and then return it once you are finished.
Good luck!!
John
--
John Dearing
A+, Network+
John, btw, for the router I'll be using Ipcop 1.4 on a standalone pc
(home page http://www.ipcop.org)
if that changes anything. It supports PPPoE, DHCP, all of it.
Mark
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Ok, with the help of a friend in the neighborhood with a XP laptop
I was able to setup the verizon password and username. It works
fine (I downloaded a large file, got about 200KB/sec) - thanks
Mark |
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spdy
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Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject:
Re: trying to use Verizon DSL with linux |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:26:31 -0400, Mark <none@xxxyy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I read many positive results from linux users using
verizon DSL with the westell 2200 DSL modem.
So I got the kit, but I've found out that the
install process seems to require you to use
Windows only software to get the username/passwd
to log into the network. I had been assuming to
that point that the software was for the MSN
extras stuff that I wasn't going to use anyway.
Since I only have linux
I can't run that and without the password/username
I can't get on. How could I work around this?
Some people say you can call them and say
you are using a router and they will give you
a username password on the phone? I didn't get
that because I'd think they'd tell you to
plug into the modem directly from the pc, do
the setup then swap the cable back to the router
and the router to the modem.
Any ideas?
Mark
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Mark,
Instead of using that crappy Windows install CD, just goto (since you
have another Internet connection):
https://dslreg.verizon.net
It will walk you through getting a username & password. When you get
to the end though, the button will not work (it says finish or
something). That is designed to work with the installation CD. So
once you get there you know you are done.
-- spdy |
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David H. Lipman
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Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject:
Re: trying to use Verizon DSL with linux |
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Hey thanx -- That's a good URL to bookmark for future reference. I haven't even seen that
mentioned in the "private" Verizon News Space.
Dave
"spdy" <spdy@noemail.com> wrote in message
news:tshrk0p16bj49a98sl29rnam2emap5e184@4ax.com...
| On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:26:31 -0400, Mark <none@xxxyy.com> wrote:
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| >I read many positive results from linux users using
| >verizon DSL with the westell 2200 DSL modem.
| >
| >So I got the kit, but I've found out that the
| >install process seems to require you to use
| >Windows only software to get the username/passwd
| >to log into the network. I had been assuming to
| >that point that the software was for the MSN
| >extras stuff that I wasn't going to use anyway.
| >
| >Since I only have linux
| >I can't run that and without the password/username
| >I can't get on. How could I work around this?
| >Some people say you can call them and say
| >you are using a router and they will give you
| >a username password on the phone? I didn't get
| >that because I'd think they'd tell you to
| >plug into the modem directly from the pc, do
| >the setup then swap the cable back to the router
| >and the router to the modem.
| >Any ideas?
| >Mark
|
| Mark,
| Instead of using that crappy Windows install CD, just goto (since you
| have another Internet connection):
| https://dslreg.verizon.net
|
| It will walk you through getting a username & password. When you get
| to the end though, the button will not work (it says finish or
| something). That is designed to work with the installation CD. So
| once you get there you know you are done.
|
| -- spdy |
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John P. Dearing
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Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:21 am Post subject:
Re: trying to use Verizon DSL with linux(success) |
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Mark Schlegel wrote:
| Quote: | Ok, with the help of a friend in the neighborhood with a XP laptop
I was able to setup the verizon password and username. It works
fine (I downloaded a large file, got about 200KB/sec) - thanks
|
Sounds like you got the 1.5 package. Good deal!! Go to one of the other
speedtest site and check your upload speed. If you're close enough to
the C.O. you might also have the 384 upload which is nice.
Glad to hear you were able to work things out and get your setup
working. You may also want to check out the 0.verizon.* series of
newsgroups. These are private newsgroups only accessable from within the
VOL network.
Welcome aboard and smooth surfing!!!
John
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John P. Dearing
A+, Network+
To reply: Just drop "YOURPANTS" in my address! 8-) |
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Mark
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Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:18 am Post subject:
Re: trying to use Verizon DSL with linux |
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John P. Dearing wrote:
| Quote: | Mark wrote:
-=[ deletia to save space]=-
John, btw, for the router I'll be using Ipcop 1.4 on a standalone pc
(home page http://www.ipcop.org)
if that changes anything. It supports PPPoE, DHCP, all of it.
The Westell 2200 can operate in one of two modes. The first, "router"
mode has the device operate much like a small broadband router (think
Linksys, Netgear, etc...). The 2200 has built-in NAT and a PPPoE shim
that will hold your username/password for authentication. It just
doesn't have the built-in switch/hub, you have to add that yourself.
The second mode is called Bridge mode. In this mode the 2200 operates as
a simple DSL modem, that's all, nothing more.
My previous recommendation to use a Windows box to do the account setup
and then you can decide how you'll configure the Westell (router vs
bridge) for your Linux network.
My own preference is to have an appliance do the router/NAT work and
save the PC's for, well, PC work. Unless your doing this as an
educational exercise.
John
--
John P. Dearing
A+, Network+
To reply: Just drop "YOURPANTS" in my address! 8-)
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There's another reason besides the educational one,
the standalone pc does a better more flexible job
of it than the typical appliance. Logging is better,
ipcop uses snort.org to actually tell you what all the
firewall/ids events mean and rate the severities.
Also with ipcop you have built-in local squid proxying,
you can't do that easily with a hardware appliance.
Plus since it's squid, squid supports ad filtering.
(using squid_redirect)
Plus I was already using the ipcop box and had it all setup so going to
the appliance would mean reinventing the wheel and
setting up all the rules in the appliance that I
already had working in ipcop.
Mark |
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David H. Lipman
Guest
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| Posted:
Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:26 pm Post subject:
Re: trying to use Verizon DSL with linux |
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The only downside is the power consumption. Could be as much as 10 times that of an
appliance.
Dave
"Mark" <none@xxxyy.com> wrote in message news:pYN3d.6498$vd1.4773@trnddc03...
| John P. Dearing wrote:
| > Mark wrote:
| >
| > -=[ deletia to save space]=-
| >
| >> John, btw, for the router I'll be using Ipcop 1.4 on a standalone pc
| >> (home page http://www.ipcop.org)
| >> if that changes anything. It supports PPPoE, DHCP, all of it.
| >
| >
| > The Westell 2200 can operate in one of two modes. The first, "router"
| > mode has the device operate much like a small broadband router (think
| > Linksys, Netgear, etc...). The 2200 has built-in NAT and a PPPoE shim
| > that will hold your username/password for authentication. It just
| > doesn't have the built-in switch/hub, you have to add that yourself.
| >
| > The second mode is called Bridge mode. In this mode the 2200 operates as
| > a simple DSL modem, that's all, nothing more.
| >
| > My previous recommendation to use a Windows box to do the account setup
| > and then you can decide how you'll configure the Westell (router vs
| > bridge) for your Linux network.
| >
| > My own preference is to have an appliance do the router/NAT work and
| > save the PC's for, well, PC work. Unless your doing this as an
| > educational exercise.
| >
| > John
| > --
| > John P. Dearing
| > A+, Network+
| > To reply: Just drop "YOURPANTS" in my address! 8-)
|
| There's another reason besides the educational one,
| the standalone pc does a better more flexible job
| of it than the typical appliance. Logging is better,
| ipcop uses snort.org to actually tell you what all the
| firewall/ids events mean and rate the severities.
| Also with ipcop you have built-in local squid proxying,
| you can't do that easily with a hardware appliance.
| Plus since it's squid, squid supports ad filtering.
| (using squid_redirect)
| Plus I was already using the ipcop box and had it all setup so going to
| the appliance would mean reinventing the wheel and
| setting up all the rules in the appliance that I
| already had working in ipcop.
| Mark |
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