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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: How's your cable removal business? Reply with quote

Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com) wrote:
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Justin Time wrote:



Reread the statement to see exactly what the requirement is before you
start talking seperate contracts for cable removal. The statement is
very specific about what is required.

Hi Rodgers,

I think you are referring to the clause that sates that the removal is
associated with the new cables installed under the SOW. I guess, you are
right: that should ease the tension as you can approximately quantify the
number of cables to remove by the number of panels you are getting rid of
to install your new ones.

Or ask for a price for every meter of cable removed, the contractor will

then remove all cable as he get paid for everything he pulls out.

The risk for breakdown must be shared:
- The customer pays associated costs for the company, and material used.
- The contractor pays the extra work associated to the problems.

This will make them both focus on avoiding interruption of services.



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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: How's your cable removal business? Reply with quote

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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:



No gold for me - I get paid by the hour, and I'm already booked
solid.

Can't brag about overbooking myself, so any additional opportunity is
welcomed.

The problem I see with some of this is that the ceilings often have
cabling that's in contact with the asbestos fireproofing so if you
move
it, you have to practice asbestos abatement procedures. Right now,
the
maintenance people and I are not allowed to do work in some bldgs
because of this. And some of our bldgs have literally tons of the
old
25 pair IW cable from the old key phone systems that were abandoned
in
the late '80s. I would really like to remove that stuff, but with
the
asbestos..

Thanks for the insight. I did not think of that before. I guess, you
can
always cut them flush with the firestop device. Otherwise you'd have
to
worry about re-firestopping, so just cutting the cables at this point
sounds logical to me (unless disapproved by the firestop device
manufacturer)

Firestop? I don't think the telcos knew what a firestop was back then.
And all that IW is not plenum, and it's in a bldg that has a plenum
ceiling. :-(

Quote:
Exhumed? I think that's when you dig a dead and buried body up for
forensic examination.

Emit? Give off? Well, you get the idea ;-)

Thanks!

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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: How's your cable removal business? Reply with quote

Perkowski wrote:

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Honestly, the only way anybody is going to make money pulling cable out

is by paying off the local town electrical inspector to go to the site
and tell the customer it has to come out. Until that happens I dont
think its a large market for now.

Well, you don't have to pay him (on top of whatever local taxes you pay)
to tell you to keep all your ceiling tiles closed. So, why would you pay
him to tell you about another fire hazard? But I think that his education
is important. He's not going to demand it if he has no idea about this
"novel" concept.


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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: How's your cable removal business? Reply with quote

Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com) wrote:
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Perkowski wrote:


Honestly, the only way anybody is going to make money pulling cable out


is by paying off the local town electrical inspector to go to the site
and tell the customer it has to come out. Until that happens I dont
think its a large market for now.


Well, you don't have to pay him (on top of whatever local taxes you pay)
to tell you to keep all your ceiling tiles closed. So, why would you pay
him to tell you about another fire hazard? But I think that his education
is important. He's not going to demand it if he has no idea about this
"novel" concept.


Dmitri,


Until the electrical inspector starts to bring a ladder to check out the
air spaces and what not, I personally think its a shot in the dark to
get steady cable removal business. I know of one company, where we put
Cat 6 in that wanted to old stuff removed, and that was for asthetic
reasons, not because of any hazards.

Then again, I dont go out there and push enough either.

Joe Perkowski
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