does direction matter with dsl phone filters?
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Mark
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:41 am    Post subject: does direction matter with dsl phone filters? Reply with quote

I'm getting verizon dsl and the kit that came in
the mail has five dsl filters in it. The filters
go on the phones to filter the dsl band from
getting in the phones. The filters seem be have a
preferred orientation (one socket labeled 'phone').
Do these filters not work as well if you connect
the phone in the opposite sense? The reason I
don't want to use the preferred sense is that the
wall jack is half way up the wall and I don't want
the filter to be hanging off the middle of the
wall. I'd prefer it to be on the table next to the
phone. But since the phone has a female port, I'd have to
use a jumper and a female-to-female adapter or just
use the filter in the reverse direction. I talked to
a networking guy and he thought it would work but it wouldn't
be as effective as the preferred way.

Mark
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bob prohaska
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:41 am    Post subject: Re: does direction matter with dsl phone filters? Reply with quote

Mark <none@xxxyy.com> wrote:
Quote:
use the filter in the reverse direction. I talked to
a networking guy and he thought it would work but it wouldn't
be as effective as the preferred way.

Interesting question....I just tried it, seems to work fine.

bob prohaska
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Rick Wintjen
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: does direction matter with dsl phone filters? Reply with quote

Mark wrote:

Quote:
I'm getting verizon dsl and the kit that came in
the mail has five dsl filters in it. The filters
go on the phones to filter the dsl band from
getting in the phones. The filters seem be have a
preferred orientation (one socket labeled 'phone').
Do these filters not work as well if you connect
the phone in the opposite sense? The reason I
don't want to use the preferred sense is that the
wall jack is half way up the wall and I don't want
the filter to be hanging off the middle of the
wall. I'd prefer it to be on the table next to the
phone. But since the phone has a female port, I'd have to
use a jumper and a female-to-female adapter or just
use the filter in the reverse direction. I talked to
a networking guy and he thought it would work but it wouldn't
be as effective as the preferred way.

Mark
Probably not; the filter is low-pass, and that can mean unidirectional.

Just go to a place like Radio Shack and get a female-to-female adapter.
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John H
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: does direction matter with dsl phone filters? Reply with quote

I found that these filters are directional...not that they will not
work, but things like call id were not working when I first installed
mine, but once I reversed the direction the call id started to work
again...so IMO they are directional.

jch

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:47:48 +0000 (UTC), bob prohaska
<bp@imln8.berkeley.edu> wrote:

Quote:
Mark <none@xxxyy.com> wrote:
use the filter in the reverse direction. I talked to
a networking guy and he thought it would work but it wouldn't
be as effective as the preferred way.

Interesting question....I just tried it, seems to work fine.

bob prohaska
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Bert Hyman
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: does direction matter with dsl phone filters? Reply with quote

none@xxxyy.com (Mark) wrote in
news:4147ac08$0$2672$61fed72c@news.rcn.com:

Quote:
Do these filters not work as well if you connect
the phone in the opposite sense? The reason I
don't want to use the preferred sense is that the
wall jack is half way up the wall and I don't want
the filter to be hanging off the middle of the
wall. I'd prefer it to be on the table next to the
phone. But since the phone has a female port, I'd have to
use a jumper and a female-to-female adapter or just
use the filter in the reverse direction

It's been a while since I've actually looked at mine, but I remember
that the "pigtail" is removable and can be plugged into either end of
the filter. I do know that some of mine are plugged into the wall
jack and some are plugged into the base of the phone, and all are
going in the right direction.

If yours can't be turned around, there's a slightly more expensive
solution of buying a wallplate with an integrated DSL filter; Qwest
gave me one as part of my DSL installation kit along with a few of
the inline sort, but I suppose you can buy them at Radio Shack or
somewhere.

I ->think they're really directional. Even though it may reduce the
noise in your phone when plugged in "backward", make sure it's not
degrading your DSL connection, or affecting the ability of your other
phones to ring.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@visi.com
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Sam
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: does direction matter with dsl phone filters? Reply with quote

Sometime on, or about 15 Sep 2004 15:06:27 GMT, Bert Hyman wrote:

Quote:
none@xxxyy.com (Mark) wrote in
news:4147ac08$0$2672$61fed72c@news.rcn.com:

Do these filters not work as well if you connect
the phone in the opposite sense? The reason I
don't want to use the preferred sense is that the
wall jack is half way up the wall and I don't want
the filter to be hanging off the middle of the
wall. I'd prefer it to be on the table next to the
phone. But since the phone has a female port, I'd have to
use a jumper and a female-to-female adapter or just
use the filter in the reverse direction

It's been a while since I've actually looked at mine, but I remember
that the "pigtail" is removable and can be plugged into either end of
the filter. I do know that some of mine are plugged into the wall
jack and some are plugged into the base of the phone, and all are
going in the right direction.

The pigtail is not removable with the filters I got from Verizon about
2-3 weeks ago. But, it may vary from place to place.


Sam
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To mail me, please get rid of the BS first
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Mark
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: does direction matter with dsl phone filters?(answer) Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
Quote:

I'm getting verizon dsl and the kit that came in
the mail has five dsl filters in it. The filters
go on the phones to filter the dsl band from
getting in the phones. The filters seem be have a
preferred orientation (one socket labeled 'phone').
Do these filters not work as well if you connect
the phone in the opposite sense? The reason I
don't want to use the preferred sense is that the
wall jack is half way up the wall and I don't want
the filter to be hanging off the middle of the
wall. I'd prefer it to be on the table next to the
phone. But since the phone has a female port, I'd have to
use a jumper and a female-to-female adapter or just
use the filter in the reverse direction. I talked to
a networking guy and he thought it would work but it wouldn't
be as effective as the preferred way.

Mark

To answer my own post, I found in some documentation that it
does matter (the filters are directional).
Mark
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