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abspc
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Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:43 pm Post subject:
Kerio winroute and NIS 2005 on same pc |
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Here's what I'd like to try and I'd like to find out if I can do this.
I'd like to use one windows xp pc as a router in my network. It will be
hooked to a hub and cable modem. 2 nics of course.
Could I install Kerio Winroute and NIS 2005 at the same time using Kerio
as the firewall and it's features, then NIS as the parental control for
the lan/wan connection? NIS 2005 firewall would be disabled, so there
should not be any conflict. The NIS 2005 parent control I want to have
it filter both nics connections for the wan and lan, or does it only
need to filter one? and if so which would it need to be connected
to/filtering? Specifically it needs to filter web sites and usenet and
it does pretty good at this. Kerio I would need it to block access to
specific ports. I like some of the kerio features too like bandwidth
management and user accounts etc. so that's why I would want it too.
I would set up NIS 2005 to filter the internet connection to block adult
web sites and filter usenet which is port 119. since some usenet servers
allow connections on other ports besides 119, I would block those
ports. I know which ports to block, so kerio would block them.
Does anyone know if this is possible and a good way to do it? |
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minipower
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Kerio winroute and NIS 2005 on same pc |
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"abspc" <l@l.com> wrote in message
news:20050116124312.463$4X@news.newsreader.com...
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Could I install Kerio Winroute and NIS 2005 at the same time using Kerio
as the firewall and it's features, then NIS as the parental control for
the lan/wan connection? NIS 2005 firewall would be disabled, so there
should not be any conflict.
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Probably not...but .......
The NIS 2005 parent control I want to have
| Quote: | it filter both nics connections for the wan and lan, or does it only need
to filter one? and if so which would it need to be connected to/filtering?
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In most cases personal-antiviruses cantrol only 127.0.0.1 (internal
localhost) connections. You
cant control connections through windows routing at all. NIS 2005 is not
right product at all for this
work. You need special antivirus-versions designed for firewall integration
and then firewall uses itselt
antivirus capability. For Winroute the best antivirus is "NOD32 for
Winroute" - you need both standard
NOD32 package and special plug-in for Winroute.
Specifically it needs to filter web sites and usenet and
| Quote: | it does pretty good at this.
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This is not at all antivirus capability. With Winroute you can make all WEB
rules that you want.
Antivirus for firewalls is for controlling http, ftp and pop3 connections.
| Quote: | I like some of the kerio features too like bandwidth
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I use Winroute myself, but I dont know about bandwith-management. Good
bandwith-management
is in CheckPoint FW-1 (Floodgate).
| Quote: | Does anyone know if this is possible and a good way to do it?
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my pleasure........I am interested about all that influences with Winroute,
its very good firewall.
m |
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abspc
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Kerio winroute and NIS 2005 on same pc |
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minipower wrote:
| Quote: | "abspc" <l@l.com> wrote in message
news:20050116124312.463$4X@news.newsreader.com...
Could I install Kerio Winroute and NIS 2005 at the same time using Kerio
as the firewall and it's features, then NIS as the parental control for
the lan/wan connection? NIS 2005 firewall would be disabled, so there
should not be any conflict.
Probably not...but .......
The NIS 2005 parent control I want to have
it filter both nics connections for the wan and lan, or does it only need
to filter one? and if so which would it need to be connected to/filtering?
In most cases personal-antiviruses cantrol only 127.0.0.1 (internal
localhost) connections. You
cant control connections through windows routing at all. NIS 2005 is not
right product at all for this
work. You need special antivirus-versions designed for firewall integration
and then firewall uses itselt
antivirus capability. For Winroute the best antivirus is "NOD32 for
Winroute" - you need both standard
NOD32 package and special plug-in for Winroute.
Specifically it needs to filter web sites and usenet and
it does pretty good at this.
This is not at all antivirus capability. With Winroute you can make all WEB
rules that you want.
Antivirus for firewalls is for controlling http, ftp and pop3 connections.
I like some of the kerio features too like bandwidth
I use Winroute myself, but I dont know about bandwith-management. Good
bandwith-management
is in CheckPoint FW-1 (Floodgate).
Does anyone know if this is possible and a good way to do it?
my pleasure........I am interested about all that influences with Winroute,
its very good firewall.
m
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If you use winroute firewall would you be willing to email chat with me?
I want to test it on my lan.
You misunderstand me. I know about virus apps, i don't care about the
Norton virus app. I am not talking about virus apps at all here. I am
only referring to usenet. you know, port 119? or any other port that a
newsgroup usenet server will accept connections on. a usenet server is
say giganews, newshosting etc. www.giganews.com or www.newshosting.com
that allow nntp connections. what i need to know is if winroute firewall
can filter nntp usenet so adult newsgroups would be blocked. like
alt.binaries.multimedia.erotica and so forth. if it would filter adult
content on web sites, http, and usenet newsgroups then i would not need
NIS 2005. However if it has no ability to filter usenet/newsgroups then
I need NIS 2005 for it's parental control filtering. i would disable the
norton firewall and then use kerio for that and its own user accounts
etc. the norton parental control would be used as the web and usenet
internet filter. kerio for firewall blocking specific ports and using
it's user accounts and bandwidth stuff all those features. |
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abspc
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject:
Re: Kerio winroute and NIS 2005 on same pc |
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minipower wrote:
| Quote: | "abspc" <l@l.com> wrote in message
news:20050116124312.463$4X@news.newsreader.com...
Could I install Kerio Winroute and NIS 2005 at the same time using Kerio
as the firewall and it's features, then NIS as the parental control for
the lan/wan connection? NIS 2005 firewall would be disabled, so there
should not be any conflict.
Probably not...but .......
The NIS 2005 parent control I want to have
it filter both nics connections for the wan and lan, or does it only need
to filter one? and if so which would it need to be connected to/filtering?
In most cases personal-antiviruses cantrol only 127.0.0.1 (internal
localhost) connections. You
cant control connections through windows routing at all. NIS 2005 is not
right product at all for this
work. You need special antivirus-versions designed for firewall integration
and then firewall uses itselt
antivirus capability. For Winroute the best antivirus is "NOD32 for
Winroute" - you need both standard
NOD32 package and special plug-in for Winroute.
Specifically it needs to filter web sites and usenet and
it does pretty good at this.
This is not at all antivirus capability. With Winroute you can make all WEB
rules that you want.
Antivirus for firewalls is for controlling http, ftp and pop3 connections.
I like some of the kerio features too like bandwidth
I use Winroute myself, but I dont know about bandwith-management. Good
bandwith-management
is in CheckPoint FW-1 (Floodgate).
Does anyone know if this is possible and a good way to do it?
my pleasure........I am interested about all that influences with Winroute,
its very good firewall.
m
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Called Kerio and talked to a tech guy who said it probably won't work
cus both Kerio and Norton would be looking at the traffic on the wan and
that would cause a conflict. I said the norton firewall would be off,
but he said it wouldn't matter. I guess I'll just have to try it in
vmware to see what happens as a test. Not running vmware as a router
host, but just a normal client pc. If there seems to be no conflict I'll
try it on a real pc that i would use as the router. |
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bargepole
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:28 am Post subject:
Re: Kerio winroute and NIS 2005 on same pc |
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"minipower" <@> wrote in message
news:41ebd03e$0$177$bb624dac@diablo.uninet.ee...
| Quote: | "abspc" <l@l.com> wrote in message
news:20050116124312.463$4X@news.newsreader.com...
In most cases personal-antiviruses cantrol only 127.0.0.1 (internal
localhost) connections. You
cant control connections through windows routing at all. NIS 2005 is not
right product at all for this
work. You need special antivirus-versions designed for firewall
integration and then firewall uses itselt
antivirus capability. For Winroute the best antivirus is "NOD32 for
Winroute" - you need both standard
NOD32 package and special plug-in for Winroute.
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I'm using Avast's Winroute plugin and am quite satisfied with it's
performance. Can you give any reasons why you think NOD32 is the best
antivirus plugin for Winroute?
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Specifically it needs to filter web sites and usenet and
it does pretty good at this.
This is not at all antivirus capability. With Winroute you can make all
WEB rules that you want.
Antivirus for firewalls is for controlling http, ftp and pop3 connections.
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And in the case of Winroute, SMTP connections, too.
| Quote: | I like some of the kerio features too like bandwidth
I use Winroute myself, but I dont know about bandwith-management. Good
bandwith-management
is in CheckPoint FW-1 (Floodgate).
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Winroute's bandwidth management is rudimentary, but there is some. Users can
be assigned quotas.
Users' traffic activity statistics can be monitored and logged and the
number of connections allowed per user can be globally assigned. More
extensive bandwidth management would be desirable, to be sure.
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Does anyone know if this is possible and a good way to do it?
my pleasure........I am interested about all that influences with
Winroute, its very good firewall.
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I've been using Winroute for years and I like it. One thing missing is what
the OP desired - NNTP filtering. I had suggested that to Kerio support soon
after they released version 5. Still not there at version 6.09. |
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abspc
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject:
Re: Kerio winroute and NIS 2005 on same pc |
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bargepole wrote:
| Quote: | "minipower" <@> wrote in message
news:41ebd03e$0$177$bb624dac@diablo.uninet.ee...
"abspc" <l@l.com> wrote in message
news:20050116124312.463$4X@news.newsreader.com...
In most cases personal-antiviruses cantrol only 127.0.0.1 (internal
localhost) connections. You
cant control connections through windows routing at all. NIS 2005 is not
right product at all for this
work. You need special antivirus-versions designed for firewall
integration and then firewall uses itselt
antivirus capability. For Winroute the best antivirus is "NOD32 for
Winroute" - you need both standard
NOD32 package and special plug-in for Winroute.
I'm using Avast's Winroute plugin and am quite satisfied with it's
performance. Can you give any reasons why you think NOD32 is the best
antivirus plugin for Winroute?
Specifically it needs to filter web sites and usenet and
it does pretty good at this.
This is not at all antivirus capability. With Winroute you can make all
WEB rules that you want.
Antivirus for firewalls is for controlling http, ftp and pop3 connections.
And in the case of Winroute, SMTP connections, too.
I like some of the kerio features too like bandwidth
I use Winroute myself, but I dont know about bandwith-management. Good
bandwith-management
is in CheckPoint FW-1 (Floodgate).
Winroute's bandwidth management is rudimentary, but there is some. Users can
be assigned quotas.
Users' traffic activity statistics can be monitored and logged and the
number of connections allowed per user can be globally assigned. More
extensive bandwidth management would be desirable, to be sure.
Does anyone know if this is possible and a good way to do it?
my pleasure........I am interested about all that influences with
Winroute, its very good firewall.
I've been using Winroute for years and I like it. One thing missing is what
the OP desired - NNTP filtering. I had suggested that to Kerio support soon
after they released version 5. Still not there at version 6.09.
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Thanks for the response, so bargepole, do you know if running NIS and
using that parental control and using Kerio for everything else on a pc
as a router would work? and if not can you think of anything that might
be able to do what i need? |
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