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kris
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject:
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abspc,
Here is what you can do to filter any port for only LAN computer you
are interested.
1. You can setup any service (under groups) with your own protocol/port
range.
2. For content removal, create a erase content group with your own
keywords.
3. For content blocking, create a web content group (only for http
traffic). HTTP traffic is determined by Web Client service. You may add
ports to any service but by default it's port 80, I think.
4. If you applying rules for a specific LAN computer, create a profile
(add LAN computer) and select the groups you created under (web filter)
and Erase content (select the services you want to apply)
This product is free and I don't think it contacts any outside servers
for lists. All the data is open and editable. You may import lists from
anywhere (for e.g. dmoz dir). I think it supports easily up to 50k+
urls.
I have not used usenet filters, but I use http/email filters for LAN
computers. Hope this works for you.
-krisP |
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abspc
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Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:39 am Post subject:
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kris wrote:
| Quote: | abspc,
Here is what you can do to filter any port for only LAN computer you
are interested.
1. You can setup any service (under groups) with your own protocol/port
range.
2. For content removal, create a erase content group with your own
keywords.
3. For content blocking, create a web content group (only for http
traffic). HTTP traffic is determined by Web Client service. You may add
ports to any service but by default it's port 80, I think.
4. If you applying rules for a specific LAN computer, create a profile
(add LAN computer) and select the groups you created under (web filter)
and Erase content (select the services you want to apply)
This product is free and I don't think it contacts any outside servers
for lists. All the data is open and editable. You may import lists from
anywhere (for e.g. dmoz dir). I think it supports easily up to 50k+
urls.
I have not used usenet filters, but I use http/email filters for LAN
computers. Hope this works for you.
-krisP
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i guess i can't use this or rely on it since it's not true web
filtering. it needs to use a third party categories list and thats what
im after and talking about. so im uninstalling it from vmware and try
other firewall products that do content filtering the right way which
safety.net does not.
thanks tho.
i am still waiting for and hoping for hardware based solutions. |
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Jose Maria Lopez Hernande
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:44 am Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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kris wrote:
| Quote: | There is new freeware product, safety.net, in downloads.com. It's
firewall + content filtering software that works at the gateway but
it's windows based.
-krisp
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If you use Linux you can use Dansguardian to deny access to
problematic sites with Squid. But it's only useful for web
access.
--
Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez
Director Tecnico de bgSEC
jkerouac@bgsec.com
bgSEC Seguridad y Consultoria de Sistemas Informaticos
http://www.bgsec.com
ESPAÑA
The only people for me are the mad ones -- the ones who are mad to live,
mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time,
the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn
like fabulous yellow Roman candles.
-- Jack Kerouac, "On the Road" |
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abspc
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:09 am Post subject:
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Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez wrote:
| Quote: | kris wrote:
There is new freeware product, safety.net, in downloads.com. It's
firewall + content filtering software that works at the gateway but
it's windows based.
-krisp
If you use Linux you can use Dansguardian to deny access to
problematic sites with Squid. But it's only useful for web
access.
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Yeah I know. I'm not interested in linux at all and i need usenet
filtering. So what I've thought about is using Kerio Winrouter firewall
and norton internet security 2005 on the gateway/router pc and using
kerio to block ports, norton parental control to filter usenet and web,
but disable the norton firewall. this way the lan is filtered when
trying to get on the web and kerio i can use its user accounts and
features for what it does. however i don't know if this will work. does
anyone know if it would work this way? |
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Fidelio
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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What about installing a keylogger and warning the kids????
After that if the kids access any place against your rules... spanking
session.
In England it is legal... probably.
"abspc" <l@l.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:20050117023018.200$Bq@news.newsreader.com...
| Quote: | Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez wrote:
kris wrote:
There is new freeware product, safety.net, in downloads.com. It's
firewall + content filtering software that works at the gateway but
it's windows based.
-krisp
If you use Linux you can use Dansguardian to deny access to
problematic sites with Squid. But it's only useful for web
access.
Yeah I know. I'm not interested in linux at all and i need usenet
filtering. So what I've thought about is using Kerio Winrouter firewall
and norton internet security 2005 on the gateway/router pc and using
kerio to block ports, norton parental control to filter usenet and web,
but disable the norton firewall. this way the lan is filtered when
trying to get on the web and kerio i can use its user accounts and
features for what it does. however i don't know if this will work. does
anyone know if it would work this way? |
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abspc
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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Fidelio wrote:
| Quote: | What about installing a keylogger and warning the kids????
After that if the kids access any place against your rules... spanking
session.
In England it is legal... probably.
"abspc" <l@l.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:20050117023018.200$Bq@news.newsreader.com...
Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez wrote:
kris wrote:
There is new freeware product, safety.net, in downloads.com. It's
firewall + content filtering software that works at the gateway but
it's windows based.
-krisp
If you use Linux you can use Dansguardian to deny access to
problematic sites with Squid. But it's only useful for web
access.
Yeah I know. I'm not interested in linux at all and i need usenet
filtering. So what I've thought about is using Kerio Winrouter firewall
and norton internet security 2005 on the gateway/router pc and using
kerio to block ports, norton parental control to filter usenet and web,
but disable the norton firewall. this way the lan is filtered when
trying to get on the web and kerio i can use its user accounts and
features for what it does. however i don't know if this will work. does
anyone know if it would work this way?
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It's for me not kids, don't have kids. Just want to learn how to do this
and also protect my network and myself and filter all the adult content
I possibly can. There's also someone else who is going to use the
network for surfing etc.
So I'm wondering if I can have Kerio Winroute firewall and NIS using its
parental control running on the pc router. Neat project I think. |
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Leythos
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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In article <20050117060957.443$Bk@news.newsreader.com>, l@l.com says...
| Quote: | It's for me not kids, don't have kids. Just want to learn how to do this
and also protect my network and myself and filter all the adult content
I possibly can.
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This is the flaw in your request - if you don't go to those places,
don't frequent questionable sites, then you don't have to worry about
it. As an adult and administrator level access you can bypass the rules
any time you want.
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abspc
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject:
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Leythos wrote:
| Quote: | In article <20050117060957.443$Bk@news.newsreader.com>, l@l.com says...
It's for me not kids, don't have kids. Just want to learn how to do this
and also protect my network and myself and filter all the adult content
I possibly can.
This is the flaw in your request - if you don't go to those places,
don't frequent questionable sites, then you don't have to worry about
it. As an adult and administrator level access you can bypass the rules
any time you want.
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Yes, but I won't have access to bypass it with passwords, the passwords
someone else will have once I configure everything right. So I'm just
wondering if my question will work or not if anyone knows. |
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JW
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:24 am Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <20050117060957.443$Bk@news.newsreader.com>, l@l.com says...
It's for me not kids, don't have kids. Just want to learn how to do this
and also protect my network and myself and filter all the adult content
I possibly can.
This is the flaw in your request - if you don't go to those places,
don't frequent questionable sites, then you don't have to worry about
it. As an adult and administrator level access you can bypass the rules
any time you want.
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I've been following this thread for a while. The OP has pretty much rejected
every suggestion, even sometimes saying that he doesn't want to explain why.
Later, he revealed that the parental control is for HIMSELF! Whoaa! Either this
is a troll or the guy has some serious problems. My suggestion: he should
disconnect his internet connection and then he won't have problems with
"parental control". (Of course, he'll still have to worry about magazine stands,
cable tv, etc...)
jw
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Fidelio
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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Hmmm I vote for spanking sessions. eheheheh
"JW" <jdub@nospamforme.com> escribió en el mensaje
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| Quote: | I've been following this thread for a while. The OP has pretty much
rejected
every suggestion, even sometimes saying that he doesn't want to explain
why.
Later, he revealed that the parental control is for HIMSELF! Whoaa! Either
this
is a troll or the guy has some serious problems. My suggestion: he should
disconnect his internet connection and then he won't have problems with
"parental control". (Of course, he'll still have to worry about magazine
stands,
cable tv, etc...)
jw
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abspc
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject:
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JW wrote:
| Quote: | Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:
In article <20050117060957.443$Bk@news.newsreader.com>, l@l.com says...
It's for me not kids, don't have kids. Just want to learn how to do this
and also protect my network and myself and filter all the adult content
I possibly can.
This is the flaw in your request - if you don't go to those places,
don't frequent questionable sites, then you don't have to worry about
it. As an adult and administrator level access you can bypass the rules
any time you want.
--
I've been following this thread for a while. The OP has pretty much rejected
every suggestion, even sometimes saying that he doesn't want to explain why.
Later, he revealed that the parental control is for HIMSELF! Whoaa! Either this
is a troll or the guy has some serious problems. My suggestion: he should
disconnect his internet connection and then he won't have problems with
"parental control". (Of course, he'll still have to worry about magazine stands,
cable tv, etc...)
jw
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Who cares who it's for? I just want help finding a working solution, if
not one of you is nice and kind, then take a hike. I have rejected every
suggestion because I will only use what i want to use. I will not work
with software and i will only use hardware. if there is no software
firewall router that i can install on one pc to use as a router and that
firewall software can do what i need then i will have to use a router.
if there is no router then so be it. to think i am a troll just because
i reject everything you all say without giving a reason is stupid. i
don't have to give a reason, i only have to say yes thank you or no
thanks. i will not use linux as i don't want to. perious plain and
simple. i will not use a proxy nntp server or anything like that because
i don't want to, plain and simple. i hate linux and choose not to learn
it. i am again, only interested in a hardware firewall appliance device
router or a software router firewall that will do what i need and use
that on one pc as a router. if none of you can understand that or help
in those areas, then ok. I will not however argue or fight with anyone. |
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Leythos
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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In article <20050118073224.082$2r@news.newsreader.com>, l@l.com says...
| Quote: | I have rejected every
suggestion because I will only use what i want to use. I will not work
with software and i will only use hardware. if there is no software
firewall router that i can install on one pc to use as a router and that
firewall software can do what i need then i will have to use a router.
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Ok, there are two issues with your request:
1) You want and appliance and no software
2) You will accept a application you can install on a PC to act as a
router, but you won't accept software based solutions
3) #1 and #2 contradict each other
He're the deal, what you want is not possible in a single appliance as a
stand alone solution - you've been told this. What you want is possible
in a combined solution of appliances and software based filtering
system, but you reject that.
You gave us the impression that this was something you needed, but never
indicated it was just for your own personal protection. Since, as an
Adult, you are responsible for your own actions, you are not protecting
any minors, you don't really need any of this - you can be responsible
for your own actions without ANY additional hardware. If you find that
you can not control your OWN actions and are always reading porn, then
you should consider medical help and disconnecting from the internet.
The firewall/applications will not change the fact that you might have a
problem, they will only cause you to change your methods to get at it.
Nothing anyone in here can suggest will protect you from the Internet or
yourself as long as you are the one doing the configuration.
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Leythos
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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In article <20050118102854.537$P2@news.newsreader.com>, l@l.com says...
| Quote: | If there's a hardware device and software then what? The only thing is I
won't do linux nor a proxy type stuff that I have to do a lot of
configging with. The only software based I'd do is possibly NIS 2005
running on the pc as a router with Kerio Winroute firewall or if that
would not work then I've no clue. I will not mess around with setting up
software on one pc as server and so on.
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Ok, so ignoring all the rest, I can not think of a single application or
group of applications that you can install on a computer that you would
not have to configure in order to meet your requirements. Additionally,
most of the applications that provide parts of the functionality that
you want are based on a nix platform and would require you to
learn/understand nix.
So, now that you've dismissed 99% of all the possible solutions, when
you do find one, please post back here and let us know what you found,
it would be good for us to know how to do it.
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abspc
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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Leythos wrote:
| Quote: | In article <20050118073224.082$2r@news.newsreader.com>, l@l.com says...
I have rejected every
suggestion because I will only use what i want to use. I will not work
with software and i will only use hardware. if there is no software
firewall router that i can install on one pc to use as a router and that
firewall software can do what i need then i will have to use a router.
Ok, there are two issues with your request:
1) You want and appliance and no software
2) You will accept a application you can install on a PC to act as a
router, but you won't accept software based solutions
3) #1 and #2 contradict each other
He're the deal, what you want is not possible in a single appliance as a
stand alone solution - you've been told this. What you want is possible
in a combined solution of appliances and software based filtering
system, but you reject that.
You gave us the impression that this was something you needed, but never
indicated it was just for your own personal protection. Since, as an
Adult, you are responsible for your own actions, you are not protecting
any minors, you don't really need any of this - you can be responsible
for your own actions without ANY additional hardware. If you find that
you can not control your OWN actions and are always reading porn, then
you should consider medical help and disconnecting from the internet.
The firewall/applications will not change the fact that you might have a
problem, they will only cause you to change your methods to get at it.
Nothing anyone in here can suggest will protect you from the Internet or
yourself as long as you are the one doing the configuration.
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Umm, yes it can, I do the config, but after this don't have access, or
anyone in my home. It's not just for me but my entire family. I'm the
admin in the house because I know technoloy and computers as the others
in my home do not. We need all to be protected, not just me. It is for
myself, but also for everyone.
If there's a hardware device and software then what? The only thing is I
won't do linux nor a proxy type stuff that I have to do a lot of
configging with. The only software based I'd do is possibly NIS 2005
running on the pc as a router with Kerio Winroute firewall or if that
would not work then I've no clue. I will not mess around with setting up
software on one pc as server and so on.
No what I said is not conflicting if you see I said use a p[c as a
router which is hardware. Same as a router, only I would have to instal
a firewall router software. Routers do the same thing, only they are
smaller and only do one thing. So I'm sorry to some it was conflicting.
Now, don't talk to me about controlling myself etc, just help or not. |
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abspc
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject:
Re: firewall with parental control filtering needed for usen |
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Duane Arnold wrote:
| Quote: | I would have thought that some of the high-end FW appliances would be able
to do much of what you're looking for.
Does price make a difference to you?
Duane :)
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I have no price, price is no object. |
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