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rpaster@sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Wireless network question Reply with quote

I'm relatively new to wireless networking at home and would like to get
some information before I spend the money to set up a network at home.

I'm thinking about adding a wireless router (11g or 11N) at home. The
plan is to add the wireless router to my DSL connection and one PC
connected via ethernet cable. The other PC would have a wireless (11g or
11N) card in it to access the DSL connection wirelessly, as well as a
printer connected to the hardwired PC.

The question is based on our use of a 2.4Ghz cordless telephone. It is
my understanding that the wireless routers use the 2.4 Ghz spectrum.
However, when we run our microwave oven, our 2.4Ghz telephone is
rendered almost useless until the microwave is done. Would the wireless
router be affected the same way as the cordless phone? Would the router
and remote PC re-establish the connection automatically if the microwave
interferes?

Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.

Bob
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless network question Reply with quote

"rpaster@sbcglobal.net" wrote:
Quote:

I'm relatively new to wireless networking at home and would like to get
some information before I spend the money to set up a network at home.

I'm thinking about adding a wireless router (11g or 11N) at home. The
plan is to add the wireless router to my DSL connection and one PC
connected via ethernet cable. The other PC would have a wireless (11g or
11N) card in it to access the DSL connection wirelessly, as well as a
printer connected to the hardwired PC.

The question is based on our use of a 2.4Ghz cordless telephone. It is
my understanding that the wireless routers use the 2.4 Ghz spectrum.
However, when we run our microwave oven, our 2.4Ghz telephone is
rendered almost useless until the microwave is done. Would the wireless
router be affected the same way as the cordless phone? Would the router
and remote PC re-establish the connection automatically if the microwave
interferes?

Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.

Bob

Suggest you Google the question while waiting for responses in this
group. I suspect the replies are going to be along the line of "it
depends on the equipment".

From prior experience I suggest you buy the router at Costco, which has
a very easy return policy on computer stuff.

LB
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Rick Wintjen
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless network question Reply with quote

rpaster@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Quote:
I'm relatively new to wireless networking at home and would like to get
some information before I spend the money to set up a network at home.

I'm thinking about adding a wireless router (11g or 11N) at home. The
plan is to add the wireless router to my DSL connection and one PC
connected via ethernet cable. The other PC would have a wireless (11g or
11N) card in it to access the DSL connection wirelessly, as well as a
printer connected to the hardwired PC.

The question is based on our use of a 2.4Ghz cordless telephone. It is
my understanding that the wireless routers use the 2.4 Ghz spectrum.
However, when we run our microwave oven, our 2.4Ghz telephone is
rendered almost useless until the microwave is done. Would the wireless
router be affected the same way as the cordless phone? Would the router
and remote PC re-establish the connection automatically if the microwave
interferes?

Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.

Bob

I have two 2.4 Ghz phones and a microwave in addition to my 11b router.
I get very little interference in either phone, and after choosing the
best channel for my house, my network doesn't seem to notice when any of
the other devices are in use. But, YMMV, depending on details of your
setup. Make sure you get a good return policy, and give it a try.
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John P. Dearing
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless network question Reply with quote

rpaster@sbcglobal.net wrote:

-=[ snippety snip ]=-

Quote:
The question is based on our use of a 2.4Ghz cordless telephone. It is
my understanding that the wireless routers use the 2.4 Ghz spectrum.
However, when we run our microwave oven, our 2.4Ghz telephone is
rendered almost useless until the microwave is done. Would the wireless
router be affected the same way as the cordless phone? Would the router
and remote PC re-establish the connection automatically if the microwave
interferes?

There is something very wrong with your microwave if it is eminating
enough signal to interfere with a cordless phone. Microwave ovens in
operation are not supposed to "leak" a signal. If they do, that's a
potential safety issue too. There are special testers that appliance
servicemen can use to check for microwave signal leakage.

You need to get that unit checked out immediately!! How old is it and is
it still under warranty?

You are correct that the wireless network and the cordless phone will
have to coexist on the 2.4GHz band. You will have to experiment on which
channel works best for you.

One last item, I recall seeing an ad recently for a WiFi "friendly"
cordless phone. It apparently adjusts it frequency around to minimize
interference with WiFi networks.

Two other options are 802.11a which uses 5GHz or replace your 2.4GHz
phone with a 5GHz phone.

John
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John P. Dearing
A+, Network+, Server+
To reply: Just drop "YOURPANTS" in my address! 8-)
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Wireless network question Reply with quote

"John P. Dearing" wrote:
Quote:

rpaster@sbcglobal.net wrote:

-=[ snippety snip ]=-

The question is based on our use of a 2.4Ghz cordless telephone. It is
my understanding that the wireless routers use the 2.4 Ghz spectrum.
However, when we run our microwave oven, our 2.4Ghz telephone is
rendered almost useless until the microwave is done. Would the wireless
router be affected the same way as the cordless phone? Would the router
and remote PC re-establish the connection automatically if the microwave
interferes?

There is something very wrong with your microwave if it is eminating
enough signal to interfere with a cordless phone. Microwave ovens in
operation are not supposed to "leak" a signal. If they do, that's a
potential safety issue too. There are special testers that appliance
servicemen can use to check for microwave signal leakage.

You need to get that unit checked out immediately!! How old is it and is
it still under warranty?

You are correct that the wireless network and the cordless phone will
have to coexist on the 2.4GHz band. You will have to experiment on which
channel works best for you.

One last item, I recall seeing an ad recently for a WiFi "friendly"
cordless phone. It apparently adjusts it frequency around to minimize
interference with WiFi networks.

Two other options are 802.11a which uses 5GHz or replace your 2.4GHz
phone with a 5GHz phone.

John
--
John P. Dearing
A+, Network+, Server+
To reply: Just drop "YOURPANTS" in my address! 8-)

I had a new MW that interfered with AM radio; took it back and got a
Sears Kenmore. NO interference and better oven.

LB
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Robert Redelmeier
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Wireless network question Reply with quote

LB@notmine.com wrote:
Quote:
I had a new MW that interfered with AM radio; took it back
and got a Sears Kenmore. NO interference and better oven.

Most likely a bad switch-mode power supply in the MW. They can
produce harmonics into AM (0.5-1.6 MHz). The magnetron emits
nice round waves at 2.45 GHz -- far too high to interfere
with anything but the latest and greatest wireless toys.


> LB
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Zeppo
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Wireless network question Reply with quote

I recently went through the same setup as you did. My DSL is hooked into a
Lynksys 54G wireless router. My work laptop has a built in A/B/G wireless
adapter and my son's desktop machine has a 54G pci card. I have a Sony
2.4Ghz phone system that has a base and 3 handsets.

Every thing worked great except for using the phone system when one of the
wireless units is being used. If someone is on one of the phone units it
would break the connection from the router to the wireless unit. I tried
configuring the router using all the channels between 1 and 11 and the best
I could get was channel 1 which gives me 5 to 10 minutes of use before the
connection is broken. I turned the phone off one day and had 20 hours of
connectivity between both wireless units without interruption.

In retrospect I would have paid more for a 'A' router and card for the PC as
the 5Ghz band it uses would have eliminated the problem.

In my case however, the phone system is a few years old now and I've never
been in love with it so I'm going to replace it with a 5Ghz model.

Jon


<rpaster@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:SKdFd.16360$iC4.2442@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
Quote:
I'm relatively new to wireless networking at home and would like to get
some information before I spend the money to set up a network at home.

I'm thinking about adding a wireless router (11g or 11N) at home. The
plan is to add the wireless router to my DSL connection and one PC
connected via ethernet cable. The other PC would have a wireless (11g or
11N) card in it to access the DSL connection wirelessly, as well as a
printer connected to the hardwired PC.

The question is based on our use of a 2.4Ghz cordless telephone. It is
my understanding that the wireless routers use the 2.4 Ghz spectrum.
However, when we run our microwave oven, our 2.4Ghz telephone is
rendered almost useless until the microwave is done. Would the wireless
router be affected the same way as the cordless phone? Would the router
and remote PC re-establish the connection automatically if the microwave
interferes?

Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.

Bob
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CharlesH
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless network question Reply with quote

Quote:
rpaster@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:SKdFd.16360$iC4.2442@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
The question is based on our use of a 2.4Ghz cordless telephone. It is
my understanding that the wireless routers use the 2.4 Ghz spectrum.
However, when we run our microwave oven, our 2.4Ghz telephone is
rendered almost useless until the microwave is done. Would the wireless
router be affected the same way as the cordless phone? Would the router
and remote PC re-establish the connection automatically if the microwave
interferes?

A bit off topic, but what was wrong with 900MHz cordless phones? Then to
2.4Ghz, then to 5GHz. Unless it is just that higher numbers sound more
"with it" from a marketing perspective?
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Neil W Rickert
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Wireless network question Reply with quote

CharlesH <hoch@exemplary.invalid> writes:

Quote:
A bit off topic, but what was wrong with 900MHz cordless phones? Then to
2.4Ghz, then to 5GHz. Unless it is just that higher numbers sound more
"with it" from a marketing perspective?

This is the problem of limited spectrum. With more and more people
wanting to be connected at the same time, we need more spectrum.
There is more available at the higher frequency ranges.
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