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Master_ofmy_Domain
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject:
No one on this group knows the answer? |
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Repost.
Is there a way to bring up a terminal window and/or issue modem
commands AFTER a PPP/dialup session has been established under
win95? By this I mean after the terminal window has been closed
and a dialup session started?
I tried Hyperterminal but am only able to get an initial login,
with no data transfer. Program appears to only allow file
transfers via Z-Modem, etc. I get login, but no AT commands can be
issued after that, nor do I see any data transfer in terminal
screen. Is there a command that needs to be issued to initiate
data transfer between client and ISP modems? Any helpful info.
appreciated. |
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Art Jackson
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: No one on this group knows the answer? |
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Master_ofmy_Domain wrote:
| Quote: | Repost.
Is there a way to bring up a terminal window and/or issue modem
commands AFTER a PPP/dialup session has been established under
win95? By this I mean after the terminal window has been closed
and a dialup session started?
I tried Hyperterminal but am only able to get an initial login,
with no data transfer. Program appears to only allow file
transfers via Z-Modem, etc. I get login, but no AT commands can be
issued after that, nor do I see any data transfer in terminal
screen. Is there a command that needs to be issued to initiate
data transfer between client and ISP modems? Any helpful info.
appreciated.
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You were given the answer by Franc. The answer is NO. Now what part of
NO don't you understand? The answer will still be the same, no matter
how many times you ask it. Hyperterminal, or even the built in DUN
terminal is not capable of establishing a PPP session, after the initial
login, which is ASCII Text, the ISP's modem will attempt to establish a
PPP connection, but Hyperterminal sees it as nothing but gibberish. When
dial up networking establishes the connection, it takes over complete
control of the modem, does the login, switches to DATA mode from command
mode, then establishes a PPP session, (if the login/pswd is correct).
Nothing else can gain access to the modem, until DUN releases the
connection. It might help if you would explain what you are trying to
accomplish. Then someone may be able to offer some suggestion. Good luck. |
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Master_ofmy_Domain
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:41 am Post subject:
Re: No one on this group knows the answer? |
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Thanks for the complete explaination. I believe you. However,
maybe there is a third party substitute for DUN that is good? I
want to be able to view my connection and issue AT commands while
online. Reason? I just like to be in control of things. Also been
having problems with hangups by ISP which seem to be deliberate on
their part and not related to total time online or inactivity.
Modem log simply says "remote modem hung up". I want something
like Trumpet, that will work with all my apps under win95 that
shows what is going on. Sysmonitor gives me widely varying stats
on CRC errors and incomplete packets. Sometimes I get very few,
other times way too many. I am trying to understand what is going
on with my connection. Also having problems with modem
occasionally freezing and unable to transfer data OR even hangup
without reboot. Must be bad relay in modem? I've tried various
settings with no luck.
on 11 Jan 2005, Art Jackson <nospam@ringading.buz> wrote in
news:vuGdnbcO_8Eir3ncRVn-pw@adelphia.com:
| Quote: | Master_ofmy_Domain wrote:
Repost.
Is there a way to bring up a terminal window and/or issue modem
commands AFTER a PPP/dialup session has been established under
win95? By this I mean after the terminal window has been closed
and a dialup session started?
I tried Hyperterminal but am only able to get an initial login,
with no data transfer. Program appears to only allow file
transfers via Z-Modem, etc. I get login, but no AT commands can
be issued after that, nor do I see any data transfer in
terminal screen. Is there a command that needs to be issued to
initiate data transfer between client and ISP modems? Any
helpful info. appreciated.
You were given the answer by Franc. The answer is NO. Now what
part of NO don't you understand? The answer will still be the
same, no matter how many times you ask it. Hyperterminal, or
even the built in DUN terminal is not capable of establishing a
PPP session, after the initial login, which is ASCII Text, the
ISP's modem will attempt to establish a PPP connection, but
Hyperterminal sees it as nothing but gibberish. When dial up
networking establishes the connection, it takes over complete
control of the modem, does the login, switches to DATA mode from
command mode, then establishes a PPP session, (if the
login/pswd is correct). Nothing else can gain access to the
modem, until DUN releases the connection. It might help if you
would explain what you are trying to accomplish. Then someone
may be able to offer some suggestion. Good luck.
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Aaron Leonard
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:39 am Post subject:
Re: No one on this group knows the answer? |
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Master-Debator,
It is true that it is in principle possible to write a PPP implementation
that would pause PPP transmission, then send AT commands to the modem,
then send ATO to go back on line, then resume PPP transmissions.
It does not however appear that there exists a market for such a product,
to compete against Microsoft's $0 PPP implementation.
Meantime I would propose that you investigate your issues using
the following methods:
- turn on and examine a modem log
- turn on and examine a PPP log
- AFTER your PPP session has completed, send AT commands to
your modem to find out more
If you peruse the archives of this group, you will find many
posts on how to do such things.
Regards,
Aaron
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On 12 Jan 2005 21:41:17 GMT, "Master_ofmy_Domain" <Master-Debator_spamecho@fastmail.com> wrote:
~ Thanks for the complete explaination. I believe you. However,
~ maybe there is a third party substitute for DUN that is good? I
~ want to be able to view my connection and issue AT commands while
~ online. Reason? I just like to be in control of things. Also been
~ having problems with hangups by ISP which seem to be deliberate on
~ their part and not related to total time online or inactivity.
~ Modem log simply says "remote modem hung up". I want something
~ like Trumpet, that will work with all my apps under win95 that
~ shows what is going on. Sysmonitor gives me widely varying stats
~ on CRC errors and incomplete packets. Sometimes I get very few,
~ other times way too many. I am trying to understand what is going
~ on with my connection. Also having problems with modem
~ occasionally freezing and unable to transfer data OR even hangup
~ without reboot. Must be bad relay in modem? I've tried various
~ settings with no luck.
~
~ on 11 Jan 2005, Art Jackson <nospam@ringading.buz> wrote in
~ news:vuGdnbcO_8Eir3ncRVn-pw@adelphia.com:
~
~ > Master_ofmy_Domain wrote:
~ >> Repost.
~ >>
~ >> Is there a way to bring up a terminal window and/or issue modem
~ >> commands AFTER a PPP/dialup session has been established under
~ >> win95? By this I mean after the terminal window has been closed
~ >> and a dialup session started?
~ >>
~ >> I tried Hyperterminal but am only able to get an initial login,
~ >> with no data transfer. Program appears to only allow file
~ >> transfers via Z-Modem, etc. I get login, but no AT commands can
~ >> be issued after that, nor do I see any data transfer in
~ >> terminal screen. Is there a command that needs to be issued to
~ >> initiate data transfer between client and ISP modems? Any
~ >> helpful info. appreciated.
~ >
~ > You were given the answer by Franc. The answer is NO. Now what
~ > part of NO don't you understand? The answer will still be the
~ > same, no matter how many times you ask it. Hyperterminal, or
~ > even the built in DUN terminal is not capable of establishing a
~ > PPP session, after the initial login, which is ASCII Text, the
~ > ISP's modem will attempt to establish a PPP connection, but
~ > Hyperterminal sees it as nothing but gibberish. When dial up
~ > networking establishes the connection, it takes over complete
~ > control of the modem, does the login, switches to DATA mode from
~ > command mode, then establishes a PPP session, (if the
~ > login/pswd is correct). Nothing else can gain access to the
~ > modem, until DUN releases the connection. It might help if you
~ > would explain what you are trying to accomplish. Then someone
~ > may be able to offer some suggestion. Good luck.
~ > |
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Franc Zabkar
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Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:04 am Post subject:
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On 12 Jan 2005 21:41:17 GMT, "Master_ofmy_Domain"
<Master-Debator_spamecho@fastmail.com> put finger to keyboard and
composed:
| Quote: | Thanks for the complete explaination. I believe you. However,
maybe there is a third party substitute for DUN that is good? I
want to be able to view my connection and issue AT commands while
online. Reason? I just like to be in control of things. Also been
having problems with hangups by ISP which seem to be deliberate on
their part and not related to total time online or inactivity.
Modem log simply says "remote modem hung up". I want something
like Trumpet, that will work with all my apps under win95 that
shows what is going on. Sysmonitor gives me widely varying stats
on CRC errors and incomplete packets. Sometimes I get very few,
other times way too many. I am trying to understand what is going
on with my connection. Also having problems with modem
occasionally freezing and unable to transfer data OR even hangup
without reboot. Must be bad relay in modem? I've tried various
settings with no luck.
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After logout use HyperTerminal to retrieve the modem's postcall
diagnostic report.
See http://www.modemsite.com/56k/diag.asp
- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email. |
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