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Al Puzzuoli
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:04 am    Post subject: What's up with the magical 10 day window? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I just got my DSL modem today; However, service won't be active until
the 13th. My modem came with a nifty little sticker that really started
me shaking my head in confusion.

The exact text of this little gem of wisdom goes as follows:

"ATTENTION To maximize connection speed, leave this modem on for 10 days
after DSL installation is complete. Please Note: You can use your DSL
service during
this time. It is not necessary to leave your computer on, only the
modem."

Huh?

Why?

What does 10 days have to do with anything. What happens if the power
flickers, I trip over the cord, etc?
What happens after the first 10 days? At that point, then it apparently
doesn't matter and I can flip my modem off and on whenever?

If anyone understands the technicalities of this, I'm dieing for an
explanation that makes sense.

TIA,

--Al
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John P. Dearing
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with the magical 10 day window? Reply with quote

Al Puzzuoli wrote:
Quote:
Hi all,

I just got my DSL modem today; However, service won't be active until
the 13th. My modem came with a nifty little sticker that really started
me shaking my head in confusion.

The exact text of this little gem of wisdom goes as follows:

"ATTENTION To maximize connection speed, leave this modem on for 10 days
after DSL installation is complete. Please Note: You can use your DSL
service during
this time. It is not necessary to leave your computer on, only the
modem."

Huh?

Why?

What does 10 days have to do with anything. What happens if the power
flickers, I trip over the cord, etc?
What happens after the first 10 days? At that point, then it apparently
doesn't matter and I can flip my modem off and on whenever?

If anyone understands the technicalities of this, I'm dieing for an
explanation that makes sense.

One explanation that I've heard is that during the first 10 days some
DSL providers do some background testing and "tweaking" of the
connection performance between your DSL modem and the DSLAM. This should
allow the best performance over your line.

As I recall, the DSLAM and DSL modem are adapting themselves to the
unique characteristics of your phone line. By leaving the modem on, this
enables this process to run to completion. I suspect that an occasional
interruption wouldn't really make any difference just so long as the
modem is on almost all of that time.

Seemed to make sense to me.....

John
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To reply: Just drop "YOURPANTS" in my address! 8-)
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DevilsPGD
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with the magical 10 day window? Reply with quote

In message <MPG.1c4d263c17e39b4989681@news.giganews.com> Al Puzzuoli
<apuzzuoli@comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
"ATTENTION To maximize connection speed, leave this modem on for 10 days
after DSL installation is complete. Please Note: You can use your DSL
service during
this time. It is not necessary to leave your computer on, only the
modem."

Huh?

Why?

What does 10 days have to do with anything. What happens if the power
flickers, I trip over the cord, etc?
What happens after the first 10 days? At that point, then it apparently
doesn't matter and I can flip my modem off and on whenever?

If anyone understands the technicalities of this, I'm dieing for an
explanation that makes sense.

My bet is that some time within the first 10 days of your service being
active, your connection gets profiled (possibly by a human, although
more likely by an automated system) which determines whether or not
you're getting ideal speeds.

The fastest link speed between the modem and the DSLAM may not always
result in the fastest overall connection speed, especially in less then
ideal line conditions. There is little point in communicating at 900Kb
with 50% packet loss vs 850Kb at 1% packet loss.

--
UNIX Sex
{look;find;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;flex;unzip;mount;workbone;
fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;yes;eject;umount;makeclean;zip;split;done;exit}
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with the magical 10 day window? Reply with quote

DevilsPGD wrote:
Quote:

In message <MPG.1c4d263c17e39b4989681@news.giganews.com> Al Puzzuoli
apuzzuoli@comcast.net> wrote:

"ATTENTION To maximize connection speed, leave this modem on for 10 days
after DSL installation is complete. Please Note: You can use your DSL
service during
this time. It is not necessary to leave your computer on, only the
modem."

Huh?

Why?

What does 10 days have to do with anything. What happens if the power
flickers, I trip over the cord, etc?
What happens after the first 10 days? At that point, then it apparently
doesn't matter and I can flip my modem off and on whenever?

If anyone understands the technicalities of this, I'm dieing for an
explanation that makes sense.

My bet is that some time within the first 10 days of your service being
active, your connection gets profiled (possibly by a human, although
more likely by an automated system) which determines whether or not
you're getting ideal speeds.

The fastest link speed between the modem and the DSLAM may not always
result in the fastest overall connection speed, especially in less then
ideal line conditions. There is little point in communicating at 900Kb
with 50% packet loss vs 850Kb at 1% packet loss.

--
UNIX Sex
{look;find;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;flex;unzip;mount;workbone;
fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;yes;eject;umount;makeclean;zip;split;done;exit}

Fun sig.

LB
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Kay Archer
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with the magical 10 day window? Reply with quote

Quote:
"ATTENTION To maximize connection speed, leave this modem on for 10 days
after DSL installation is complete. Please Note: You can use your DSL
service during
this time. It is not necessary to leave your computer on, only the
modem."


Welcome to SBC Internet Services...

The "Ramp Up" period has been explained a few different ways.

One way that almost makes sense is this:
The speed starts at some low, safe speed.
It is then increased each night by a certain increment.
When errors start to appear, the speed is then decremented, establishing the
'best' speed for your particular line.




The line testing takes place in the wee hours of the morn and rather than
tell customers their modem must be on during the period of 10pm to 8am (for
example) it is much easier (and more likely to produce compliance) to leave
the modem on all the time.





P.S., most people leave their modem on all the time regardless of whether 10
days have passed or not.
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Al Puzzuoli
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with the magical 10 day window? Reply with quote

In article <34irbbF4cu199U1@individual.net>,
kayhyphenarcher@cableone.net says...
Quote:
"ATTENTION To maximize connection speed, leave this modem on for 10 days
after DSL installation is complete. Please Note: You can use your DSL
service during
this time. It is not necessary to leave your computer on, only the
modem."


Welcome to SBC Internet Services...

The "Ramp Up" period has been explained a few different ways.

One way that almost makes sense is this:
The speed starts at some low, safe speed.
It is then increased each night by a certain increment.
When errors start to appear, the speed is then decremented, establishing the
'best' speed for your particular line.




The line testing takes place in the wee hours of the morn and rather than
tell customers their modem must be on during the period of 10pm to 8am (for
example) it is much easier (and more likely to produce compliance) to leave
the modem on all the time.





P.S., most people leave their modem on all the time regardless of whether 10
days have passed or not.


Yes,

It's sort of like one of those psychological mind games. I currently
have Comcast and don't even remember the last time I turned off or
disconnected my modem.
I would have never even contemplated turning off my DSL modem either, at
least not until I saw this sticker. Now, because I'm told that turning
it off is a no no, I'm coming up with all these reasons why I might need
to do so...:) oh well.
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with the magical 10 day window? Reply with quote

Al Puzzuoli wrote:
Quote:

In article <34irbbF4cu199U1@individual.net>,
kayhyphenarcher@cableone.net says...
"ATTENTION To maximize connection speed, leave this modem on for 10 days
after DSL installation is complete. Please Note: You can use your DSL
service during
this time. It is not necessary to leave your computer on, only the
modem."


Welcome to SBC Internet Services...

The "Ramp Up" period has been explained a few different ways.

One way that almost makes sense is this:
The speed starts at some low, safe speed.
It is then increased each night by a certain increment.
When errors start to appear, the speed is then decremented, establishing the
'best' speed for your particular line.




The line testing takes place in the wee hours of the morn and rather than
tell customers their modem must be on during the period of 10pm to 8am (for
example) it is much easier (and more likely to produce compliance) to leave
the modem on all the time.





P.S., most people leave their modem on all the time regardless of whether 10
days have passed or not.


Yes,

It's sort of like one of those psychological mind games. I currently
have Comcast and don't even remember the last time I turned off or
disconnected my modem.
I would have never even contemplated turning off my DSL modem either, at
least not until I saw this sticker. Now, because I'm told that turning
it off is a no no, I'm coming up with all these reasons why I might need
to do so...:) oh well.

Sounds like the warning label found on an iron recently.
"Do not iron clothes while wearing"

LB
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David Efflandt
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with the magical 10 day window? Reply with quote

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:47:51 -0500, Al Puzzuoli <apuzzuoli@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
It's sort of like one of those psychological mind games. I currently
have Comcast and don't even remember the last time I turned off or
disconnected my modem.
I would have never even contemplated turning off my DSL modem either, at
least not until I saw this sticker. Now, because I'm told that turning
it off is a no no, I'm coming up with all these reasons why I might need
to do so...:) oh well.

Note that you do NOT necessarily need to have your PC on or connected.
Just leave the DSL modem on the first 10 days so they can determine
optimum speed if your line is not good enough for full speed.
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