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Marilyn & Bob
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:46 am    Post subject: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking of no Reply with quote

I think it is time that we organize to get Verizon to rescind the policy of
blocking non-US sites. Please see my message on
0.verizon.email.discussion-general called Fight back: Join together to
oppose Verison's blocking of non US sites and take action.
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Peace,
BobJ
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

Yeah Baby !

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Dave




"Marilyn & Bob" <privacy@nospam.please> wrote in message
news:_zmCd.19852$fe5.5616@trndny06...
| I think it is time that we organize to get Verizon to rescind the policy of
| blocking non-US sites. Please see my message on
| 0.verizon.email.discussion-general called Fight back: Join together to
| oppose Verison's blocking of non US sites and take action.
| --
| Peace,
| BobJ
|
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Alan
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

Why do you think they block non-U.S. sites?


"Marilyn & Bob" <privacy@nospam.please> wrote in message
news:_zmCd.19852$fe5.5616@trndny06...
Quote:
I think it is time that we organize to get Verizon to rescind the policy
of
blocking non-US sites. Please see my message on
0.verizon.email.discussion-general called Fight back: Join together to
oppose Verison's blocking of non US sites and take action.
--
Peace,
BobJ
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

Verizon uses "sender verification". Office this bounces legitimate email. Many non-US
email systems are not implementing the protocol(s) needed for sender verification therefore,
effectively, those non-US email servers are blocked.

Verizon's implementation of sender verification has been flawed since its initial
implementation. They have mistakenly blocked legitimate email from the .GOV and .MIL
Domains !

--
Dave




"Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message news:340ffmF42g3esU1@individual.net...
| Why do you think they block non-U.S. sites?
|
|
| "Marilyn & Bob" <privacy@nospam.please> wrote in message
| news:_zmCd.19852$fe5.5616@trndny06...
| > I think it is time that we organize to get Verizon to rescind the policy
| of
| > blocking non-US sites. Please see my message on
| > 0.verizon.email.discussion-general called Fight back: Join together to
| > oppose Verison's blocking of non US sites and take action.
| > --
| > Peace,
| > BobJ
| >
|
|
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Marilyn & Bob
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:KXDCd.25554$_62.14163@trnddc01...
Quote:
Verizon uses "sender verification". Office this bounces legitimate email.
Many non-US
email systems are not implementing the protocol(s) needed for sender
verification therefore,
effectively, those non-US email servers are blocked.

Verizon's implementation of sender verification has been flawed since its
initial
implementation. They have mistakenly blocked legitimate email from the
.GOV and .MIL
Domains !

--
Dave




"Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message
news:340ffmF42g3esU1@individual.net...
| Why do you think they block non-U.S. sites?
|
|
| "Marilyn & Bob" <privacy@nospam.please> wrote in message
| news:_zmCd.19852$fe5.5616@trndny06...
| > I think it is time that we organize to get Verizon to rescind the
policy
| of
| > blocking non-US sites. Please see my message on
| > 0.verizon.email.discussion-general called Fight back: Join together to
| > oppose Verison's blocking of non US sites and take action.
| > --
| > Peace,
| > BobJ
|
|
|

I apologize for my poor wording in the referral message. Verizon is

blocking e-mail, not websites. What Verizon has been doing for the past few
weeks is blocking e-mail originating from all/most/many? continental
European (.uk seems to get through) and Asian servers. This is apparently
done by IP address and is a new problem, separate from the Sender
Verification thing that they have been doing for the past year and a half.
They have not made any mention of this policy change on their website (and
BTW, they have also removed the Sender Verification announcement on their
site as well), so it is not clear exactly what they are blocking, but some
people have reported that none of their mail is getting through from
anywhere on continental Europe, and Verizon tech support admits that they
are deliberately blocking the mail, but refuses to do anything about it.
--
Peace,
BobJ
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jggsf
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

I am a reporter working on a story about Verizon's email blocking,
which I have verified with the company. Please email if you would like
to discuss your problems with Verizon. Thank you!

john

Marilyn & Bob wrote:
Quote:
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:KXDCd.25554$_62.14163@trnddc01...
Verizon uses "sender verification". Office this bounces legitimate
email.
Many non-US
email systems are not implementing the protocol(s) needed for
sender
verification therefore,
effectively, those non-US email servers are blocked.

Verizon's implementation of sender verification has been flawed
since its
initial
implementation. They have mistakenly blocked legitimate email from
the
.GOV and .MIL
Domains !

--
Dave




"Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message
news:340ffmF42g3esU1@individual.net...
| Why do you think they block non-U.S. sites?
|
|
| "Marilyn & Bob" <privacy@nospam.please> wrote in message
| news:_zmCd.19852$fe5.5616@trndny06...
| > I think it is time that we organize to get Verizon to rescind
the
policy
| of
| > blocking non-US sites. Please see my message on
| > 0.verizon.email.discussion-general called Fight back: Join
together to
| > oppose Verison's blocking of non US sites and take action.
| > --
| > Peace,
| > BobJ
|
|
|

I apologize for my poor wording in the referral message. Verizon is
blocking e-mail, not websites. What Verizon has been doing for the
past few
weeks is blocking e-mail originating from all/most/many? continental
European (.uk seems to get through) and Asian servers. This is
apparently
done by IP address and is a new problem, separate from the Sender
Verification thing that they have been doing for the past year and a
half.
They have not made any mention of this policy change on their website
(and
BTW, they have also removed the Sender Verification announcement on
their
site as well), so it is not clear exactly what they are blocking, but
some
people have reported that none of their mail is getting through from
anywhere on continental Europe, and Verizon tech support admits that
they
are deliberately blocking the mail, but refuses to do anything about
it.
--
Peace,
BobJ
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David H. Lipman
Guest





Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

Please post your affiliation.

WHO are you and WHY should any Verizon subscriber communicate with you.

You need to provide bona fide proof of news organization affiliation.

--
Dave




"jggsf" <john_gartner@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1105271492.184936.300860@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| I am a reporter working on a story about Verizon's email blocking,
| which I have verified with the company. Please email if you would like
| to discuss your problems with Verizon. Thank you!
|
| john
|
| Marilyn & Bob wrote:
| > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
| > news:KXDCd.25554$_62.14163@trnddc01...
| > > Verizon uses "sender verification". Office this bounces legitimate
| email.
| > > Many non-US
| > > email systems are not implementing the protocol(s) needed for
| sender
| > > verification therefore,
| > > effectively, those non-US email servers are blocked.
| > >
| > > Verizon's implementation of sender verification has been flawed
| since its
| > > initial
| > > implementation. They have mistakenly blocked legitimate email from
| the
| > > .GOV and .MIL
| > > Domains !
| > >
| > > --
| > > Dave
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > "Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message
| > > news:340ffmF42g3esU1@individual.net...
| > > | Why do you think they block non-U.S. sites?
| > > |
| > > |
| > > | "Marilyn & Bob" <privacy@nospam.please> wrote in message
| > > | news:_zmCd.19852$fe5.5616@trndny06...
| > > | > I think it is time that we organize to get Verizon to rescind
| the
| > > policy
| > > | of
| > > | > blocking non-US sites. Please see my message on
| > > | > 0.verizon.email.discussion-general called Fight back: Join
| together to
| > > | > oppose Verison's blocking of non US sites and take action.
| > > | > --
| > > | > Peace,
| > > | > BobJ
| > > | >
| > > |
| > > |
| > >
| > I apologize for my poor wording in the referral message. Verizon is
| > blocking e-mail, not websites. What Verizon has been doing for the
| past few
| > weeks is blocking e-mail originating from all/most/many? continental
| > European (.uk seems to get through) and Asian servers. This is
| apparently
| > done by IP address and is a new problem, separate from the Sender
| > Verification thing that they have been doing for the past year and a
| half.
| > They have not made any mention of this policy change on their website
| (and
| > BTW, they have also removed the Sender Verification announcement on
| their
| > site as well), so it is not clear exactly what they are blocking, but
| some
| > people have reported that none of their mail is getting through from
| > anywhere on continental Europe, and Verizon tech support admits that
| they
| > are deliberately blocking the mail, but refuses to do anything about
| it.
| > --
| > Peace,
| > BobJ
|
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Marilyn & Bob
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

David,
That is a pretty nasty response. Why should we not initially trust this
person? In any case, I will give him my address, and ask him for more
information. If he gives it to me I will post his message on the verizon
boards.
--
Peace,
BobJ

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:ZvfEd.7600$ig7.3626@trnddc04...
Quote:
Please post your affiliation.

WHO are you and WHY should any Verizon subscriber communicate with you.

You need to provide bona fide proof of news organization affiliation.

--
Dave




"jggsf" <john_gartner@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1105271492.184936.300860@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| I am a reporter working on a story about Verizon's email blocking,
| which I have verified with the company. Please email if you would like
| to discuss your problems with Verizon. Thank you!
|
| john
|
| Marilyn & Bob wrote:
| > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
| > news:KXDCd.25554$_62.14163@trnddc01...
| > > Verizon uses "sender verification". Office this bounces legitimate
| email.
| > > Many non-US
| > > email systems are not implementing the protocol(s) needed for
| sender
| > > verification therefore,
| > > effectively, those non-US email servers are blocked.
|
| > > Verizon's implementation of sender verification has been flawed
| since its
| > > initial
| > > implementation. They have mistakenly blocked legitimate email from
| the
| > > .GOV and .MIL
| > > Domains !
|
| > > --
| > > Dave
|
|
|
|
| > > "Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message
| > > news:340ffmF42g3esU1@individual.net...
| > > | Why do you think they block non-U.S. sites?
| > > |
| > > |
| > > | "Marilyn & Bob" <privacy@nospam.please> wrote in message
| > > | news:_zmCd.19852$fe5.5616@trndny06...
| > > | > I think it is time that we organize to get Verizon to rescind
| the
| > > policy
| > > | of
| > > | > blocking non-US sites. Please see my message on
| > > | > 0.verizon.email.discussion-general called Fight back: Join
| together to
| > > | > oppose Verison's blocking of non US sites and take action.
| > > | > --
| > > | > Peace,
| > > | > BobJ
| > > |
| > > |
| > > |
|
| > I apologize for my poor wording in the referral message. Verizon is
| > blocking e-mail, not websites. What Verizon has been doing for the
| past few
| > weeks is blocking e-mail originating from all/most/many? continental
| > European (.uk seems to get through) and Asian servers. This is
| apparently
| > done by IP address and is a new problem, separate from the Sender
| > Verification thing that they have been doing for the past year and a
| half.
| > They have not made any mention of this policy change on their website
| (and
| > BTW, they have also removed the Sender Verification announcement on
| their
| > site as well), so it is not clear exactly what they are blocking, but
| some
| > people have reported that none of their mail is getting through from
| > anywhere on continental Europe, and Verizon tech support admits that
| they
| > are deliberately blocking the mail, but refuses to do anything about
| it.
| > --
| > Peace,
| > BobJ
|

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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

Fair enough.

--
Dave




"Marilyn & Bob" <privacy@nospam.please> wrote in message news:vlmEd.7722$eb.4581@trndny01...
| David,
| That is a pretty nasty response. Why should we not initially trust this
| person? In any case, I will give him my address, and ask him for more
| information. If he gives it to me I will post his message on the verizon
| boards.
| --
| Peace,
| BobJ
|
| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
| news:ZvfEd.7600$ig7.3626@trnddc04...
| > Please post your affiliation.
| >
| > WHO are you and WHY should any Verizon subscriber communicate with you.
| >
| > You need to provide bona fide proof of news organization affiliation.
| >
| > --
| > Dave
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > "jggsf" <john_gartner@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1105271492.184936.300860@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| > | I am a reporter working on a story about Verizon's email blocking,
| > | which I have verified with the company. Please email if you would like
| > | to discuss your problems with Verizon. Thank you!
| > |
| > | john
| > |
| > | Marilyn & Bob wrote:
| > | > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
| > | > news:KXDCd.25554$_62.14163@trnddc01...
| > | > > Verizon uses "sender verification". Office this bounces legitimate
| > | email.
| > | > > Many non-US
| > | > > email systems are not implementing the protocol(s) needed for
| > | sender
| > | > > verification therefore,
| > | > > effectively, those non-US email servers are blocked.
| > | > >
| > | > > Verizon's implementation of sender verification has been flawed
| > | since its
| > | > > initial
| > | > > implementation. They have mistakenly blocked legitimate email from
| > | the
| > | > > .GOV and .MIL
| > | > > Domains !
| > | > >
| > | > > --
| > | > > Dave
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > "Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message
| > | > > news:340ffmF42g3esU1@individual.net...
| > | > > | Why do you think they block non-U.S. sites?
| > | > > |
| > | > > |
| > | > > | "Marilyn & Bob" <privacy@nospam.please> wrote in message
| > | > > | news:_zmCd.19852$fe5.5616@trndny06...
| > | > > | > I think it is time that we organize to get Verizon to rescind
| > | the
| > | > > policy
| > | > > | of
| > | > > | > blocking non-US sites. Please see my message on
| > | > > | > 0.verizon.email.discussion-general called Fight back: Join
| > | together to
| > | > > | > oppose Verison's blocking of non US sites and take action.
| > | > > | > --
| > | > > | > Peace,
| > | > > | > BobJ
| > | > > | >
| > | > > |
| > | > > |
| > | > >
| > | > I apologize for my poor wording in the referral message. Verizon is
| > | > blocking e-mail, not websites. What Verizon has been doing for the
| > | past few
| > | > weeks is blocking e-mail originating from all/most/many? continental
| > | > European (.uk seems to get through) and Asian servers. This is
| > | apparently
| > | > done by IP address and is a new problem, separate from the Sender
| > | > Verification thing that they have been doing for the past year and a
| > | half.
| > | > They have not made any mention of this policy change on their website
| > | (and
| > | > BTW, they have also removed the Sender Verification announcement on
| > | their
| > | > site as well), so it is not clear exactly what they are blocking, but
| > | some
| > | > people have reported that none of their mail is getting through from
| > | > anywhere on continental Europe, and Verizon tech support admits that
| > | they
| > | > are deliberately blocking the mail, but refuses to do anything about
| > | it.
| > | > --
| > | > Peace,
| > | > BobJ
| > |
| >
| >
|
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:49 am    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

David, your response is not nasty. If someone wants info, s/he should
clearly identify who s/he is.
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:22 am    Post subject: Re: Fight back: Join together to oppose Verison's blocking o Reply with quote

Thank you fellow Verizon user.

BTW: Bob did not post referenced information on Verizon's private News Space.

There is information that a Class Action suit has been filed on the subject matter.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/21/verizon_class_action/

--
Dave




<karl@jahr.us> wrote in message news:1106768956.308380.56470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| David, your response is not nasty. If someone wants info, s/he should
| clearly identify who s/he is.
|
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