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beavis
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:55 am Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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In article <Pq-dnQFp9bTp8VHcRVn-1w@comcast.com>, Charles Newman
<charlesnewman1@comcast.net.spammers.will.be.shot.on.sight> wrote:
| Quote: | I use Internet Explorer, which is the standard in
browsers. 99.9 percent of the computers in the
world run IE
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Try again. 88.9% and falling by the day, because people are realizing
they DO have options, and they DON'T have to put up with a substandard
web browser, which IE is. That people are putting up with its repeated
security bugs just boggles the mind.
<http://news.com.com/Firefox+cutting+into+IEs+lead/2100-1025_3-5463513.h
tml?tag=nl>
| Quote: | ...and nearly every Web site is designed to best work with IE.
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Again, not correct. The web wasn't designed to work on a single
browser. HTML is the standard that web browsers are expected to
follow. Sites that depend on a particular browser's quirks are poorly
designed from the start. |
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Warren
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:35 am Post subject:
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Charles Newman wrote:
| Quote: | Well, Norton Ghost makes it easy. I can restore
from the image file anytime I want. Got the idea
from when I went to college. They used a program
they had to automatically wipe out and restore
Windows every night when the labs closed.
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I would hope that eventually the folks running the lab would learn a
little about security, and lock the machines down so such a move
wouldn't be necessary. Ghosting the machines each night would be like a
car dealer replenishing his inventory each day instead of not leaving
the keys in the ignition of all the cars on the lot.
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Charles Newman
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 3:14 am Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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"Warren" <wholzem@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3Z%yd.629286$D%.423367@attbi_s51...
| Quote: | Charles Newman wrote:
Well, Norton Ghost makes it easy. I can restore
from the image file anytime I want. Got the idea
from when I went to college. They used a program
they had to automatically wipe out and restore
Windows every night when the labs closed.
I would hope that eventually the folks running the lab would learn a
little about security, and lock the machines down so such a move
wouldn't be necessary. Ghosting the machines each night would be like a
car dealer replenishing his inventory each day instead of not leaving
the keys in the ignition of all the cars on the lot.
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Well, that was in the days of Win9x. The machines
could not be locked down as easily as an XP
machine could, so ghosting the machines every
night was the only fesable way to do it.
The tried locking down the machines, but
computer geniuses from the computer science
department could break the passwords quite
easily, so they started ghosting the machines
every night. There is no secure way to lock
down a Win9x machine. The lab people
learned that one the hard way. |
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Dr. Cajones
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:28 am Post subject:
Can someone tell me the significance? |
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Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
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these are two entries from my modem log page.
Are they indicative of a problem?
What do they signify?
TIA.
dj |
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:03 am Post subject:
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Charles Newman wrote:
| Quote: | "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote
..only if you don't practice safe hex. What browser do you use?
I use Internet Explorer, which is the standard in browsers.
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You need to get your facts in order. Among modern browsers, IE is the
*least* standard of any you might choose.
| Quote: | 99.9 percent of the computers in the world run IE,
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That's false. IE is losing market share everyday and it would not
surprise me at all if it is now at 85% or lower. All thanks to the
Firefox campaign, and mainstream news articles (electronic and print)
detailing IE's ongoing security problems.
| Quote: | and nearly every Web site is designed to best work with IE.
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<ROF,LMAO>
How many web sites have you written?
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-bts
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$Bill
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:03 am Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
| Quote: | Charles Newman wrote:
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote
..only if you don't practice safe hex. What browser do you use?
I use Internet Explorer, which is the standard in browsers.
You need to get your facts in order. Among modern browsers, IE is the
*least* standard of any you might choose.
99.9 percent of the computers in the world run IE,
That's false. IE is losing market share everyday and it would not
surprise me at all if it is now at 85% or lower. All thanks to the
Firefox campaign, and mainstream news articles (electronic and print)
detailing IE's ongoing security problems.
and nearly every Web site is designed to best work with IE.
ROF,LMAO
How many web sites have you written?
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I'll guarantee you one thing - I did not take M$IE into consideration
at all when developing my site. I have M$IE available to use, but I
only start it when I get to a site that functions only with MSIE (and
I really need to see what's on the site cause I would normally blow
it off if it won't render on Mozilla/Firefox). That and for XP
updates and sometimes to browse M$ site (something I avoid if possible).
I pretty much loathe M$ in general and prefer open source software
when possible - Mozilla, Apache, Vim, etc, etc. |
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James Knott
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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Charles Newman wrote:
| Quote: | I use Internet Explorer, which is the standard in
browsers. 99.9 percent of the computers in the
world run IE, and nearly every Web site is designed
to best work with IE.
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Given that not that many computer run Windows, that's unlikely. Then there
are many who run Windows, but run Mozilla, Firefox or Opera. All the
security problems with IE are causing people to move to alternatives.
As for the web sites, most are running on Apache, which is *NOT* designed to
work best with IE. Also, any web site designer who creates sites that work
best with IE and ignores the HTML standards is incompetent. |
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Charles Newman
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:3348acF3rgo29U1@individual.net...
| Quote: | Charles Newman wrote:
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote
..only if you don't practice safe hex. What browser do you use?
I use Internet Explorer, which is the standard in browsers.
You need to get your facts in order. Among modern browsers, IE is the
*least* standard of any you might choose.
99.9 percent of the computers in the world run IE,
That's false. IE is losing market share everyday and it would not
surprise me at all if it is now at 85% or lower. All thanks to the
Firefox campaign, and mainstream news articles (electronic and print)
detailing IE's ongoing security problems.
and nearly every Web site is designed to best work with IE.
ROF,LMAO
How many web sites have you written?
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Well, there are music services I use (Napster, Rhapsody),
that intiate an IE session under them when they run. They use
IE. When their proprietary software runs, it uses IE under it.
So, if I want to have music from the Web (legal music,
anyway), I have to use IE. Even if I used another browser,
viruses, trojans, and the like could still slip into my machine,
via IE, when running Rhapsody or Napster. |
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 6:26 pm Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:08:44 -0500, James Knott
<james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Also, any web site designer who creates sites that work
best with IE and ignores the HTML standards is incompetent.
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Like in this web page?:
http://www.calgarypubliclibrary.com/
'his website is best viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 and
up, or Netscape Navigator 4.7 and up for PC, and Internet Explorer 5.5
for Macintosh. '
But if you go to the 'Using the online catalogue' page, it says:
http://calgarypubliclibrary.com/library/using_the_online_catalogue.htm
Browsers for Windows Users:
Internet Explorer 6 or later
Netscape Navigator 6.1 or later
Browsers for Mac Users:
Macintosh browser version information will be coming soon
I don't know what Linux users are supposed to do.
Geo |
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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Charles Newman wrote:
| Quote: | Well, there are music services I use (Napster, Rhapsody), that
intiate an IE session under them when they run. They use IE. When
their proprietary software runs, it uses IE under it.
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I just investigated both of their sites. Both worked fine with
Firefox. You need to download an executable program that runs on your
PC - not a browser - in order to get the music.
| Quote: | So, if I want to have music from the Web (legal music, anyway), I
have to use IE.
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Set Firefox as your default browser, and choose to spoof as IE. I'll
bet it works.
| Quote: | Even if I used another browser, viruses, trojans, and the like
could still slip into my machine, via IE, when running Rhapsody or
Napster.
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Not if you know what you're doing.
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Rene
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject:
Re: Can someone tell me the significance? |
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"Dr. Cajones" <drjawn.spamno@remove.yahoo.com> wrote:
// removed virus group - has nothing to do with a virus.
| Quote: | Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
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Ranging is the process of a cablemodem to find out how much output power it
has to use so that the other side (the headend) is still hearing it. From
the message above I suppose the connection went bad and your cablemodem
never received an answer to the ranging probes. Which means it can no
longer communicate with the headend.
| Quote: | DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
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Probably caused by the loss of connectivity.
| Quote: | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
these are two entries from my modem log page.
Are they indicative of a problem?
What do they signify?
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Your line parameteres have become too bad to communicate over them. If your
cablemodem has led-indicators, it quite likly doesn't show "SYNC" at the
moment or is performing nothing else then reset cycles. Phone your cable
company and request a guy to measure/readjust the line.
CU
René
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Garner Miller
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:40 pm Post subject:
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In article <41cd6981.3282977@news.ucalgary.ca>, < Me@home.here> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:08:44 -0500, James Knott
james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
Also, any web site designer who creates sites that work
best with IE and ignores the HTML standards is incompetent.
Like in this web page?:
http://www.calgarypubliclibrary.com/
'his website is best viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 and
up, or Netscape Navigator 4.7 and up for PC, and Internet Explorer 5.5
for Macintosh. '
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As he said, if that were the case, that's completely incompetent. And
the site works fine in Firefox and Safari on the Macintosh -- two
standards-compliant browsers. I find the "Best viewed with...IE 5.5
for Mac" especially comical on the Mac side, since 5.2 was the last
version of IE for the Mac. (It was abandoned after Safari came on the
scene and handed it its lunch, followed shortly thereafter by Firefox
1.0.)
| Quote: | But if you go to the 'Using the online catalogue' page, it says:
http://calgarypubliclibrary.com/library/using_the_online_catalogue.htm
Browsers for Windows Users:
Internet Explorer 6 or later
Netscape Navigator 6.1 or later
Browsers for Mac Users:
Macintosh browser version information will be coming soon
I don't know what Linux users are supposed to do.
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My guess is it'll work fine with Firefox under Linux, but we won't know
until it goes live next month. The site specifically mentions the
catalog will work with the Mac browsers, and the primary ones that
haven't been abandoned (i.e., Internet Explorer) are
standards-compliant browsers.
--
Garner R. Miller
Clifton Park, NY =USA= |
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James Knott
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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"GEO" Me@home.here wrote:
| Quote: | Like in this web page?:
http://www.calgarypubliclibrary.com/
'his website is best viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 and
up, or Netscape Navigator 4.7 and up for PC, and Internet Explorer 5.5
for Macintosh. '
But if you go to the 'Using the online catalogue' page, it says:
http://calgarypubliclibrary.com/library/using_the_online_catalogue.htm
Browsers for Windows Users:
Internet Explorer 6 or later
Netscape Navigator 6.1 or later
Browsers for Mac Users:
Macintosh browser version information will be coming soon
I don't know what Linux users are supposed to do.
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I can access that page, with both Konqueror and Mozilla. Given that they
support Netscape, Mozilla shouldn't be a problem. They are not forcing you
to use IE. |
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James Knott
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Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:29 am Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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Garner Miller wrote:
| Quote: | 'his website is best viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 and
up, or Netscape Navigator 4.7 and up for PC, and Internet Explorer 5.5
for Macintosh. '
As he said, if that were the case, that's completely incompetent. And
the site works fine in Firefox and Safari on the Macintosh -- two
standards-compliant browsers. I find the "Best viewed with...IE 5.5
for Mac" especially comical on the Mac side, since 5.2 was the last
version of IE for the Mac. (It was abandoned after Safari came on the
scene and handed it its lunch, followed shortly thereafter by Firefox
1.0.)
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There's a big difference, between works best with a few listed browsers and
only IE. If it works with a variety, they've not gone the IE only route
and will likely work with others, though some browsers may be better than
others. If they support Netscape, there shouldn't be any problem with
Netscape, Mozilla or Firefox on Linux, unless they've got a really
incompetent designer. |
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Charles Newman
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Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:37 am Post subject:
Re: Virus and Cable Modem |
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"Warren" <wholzem@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3Z%yd.629286$D%.423367@attbi_s51...
| Quote: | Charles Newman wrote:
Well, Norton Ghost makes it easy. I can restore
from the image file anytime I want. Got the idea
from when I went to college. They used a program
they had to automatically wipe out and restore
Windows every night when the labs closed.
I would hope that eventually the folks running the lab would learn a
little about security, and lock the machines down so such a move
wouldn't be necessary. Ghosting the machines each night would be like a
car dealer replenishing his inventory each day instead of not leaving
the keys in the ignition of all the cars on the lot.
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Another thing is that it was in an academic enviroment. The
admins felt that locking down the machines infringed upon
academic freedom, which is what most of the CSU system
strives for, so they found it easier just to ghost the machines
every night at closing time. That solved the problem of
viruses, trojans, spyware, or illegal material, such as
pirated/unauthorized software installations, illegal music
downloads, or illegal porn.
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Warren H.
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Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
Spend your Amazon Gift Certificates at my site:
http://www.holzemville.com/mall/
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