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SPG
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:05 am Post subject:
2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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I removed sygate and installed outpost (which migrated to 30 days trial
after update) next zonealarm. Now I want go back to sygate. What was last
version of Sygate Personal firewall Pro (pspf.exe)?
The same question about signatures.
pspf.exe was removed from sygate sites. Signatures also.
The newest I found was:
5.5 build 2710
signature: 1.0.1066
If someone needs original sygate pro from good source here it is:
http://dl23.sygatetech.com/pub/bws/bws_49/pspf.exe
This link survived symantec clenaup.
If someone has newer sygate or signatures and would like to share give me a
sign and I will send real e-mail address for upload.
greetings,
Zbigniew |
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Kerodo
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:08 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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SPG wrote:
| Quote: | I removed sygate and installed outpost (which migrated to 30 days trial
after update) next zonealarm. Now I want go back to sygate. What was last
version of Sygate Personal firewall Pro (pspf.exe)?
The same question about signatures.
pspf.exe was removed from sygate sites. Signatures also.
The newest I found was:
5.5 build 2710
signature: 1.0.1066
If someone needs original sygate pro from good source here it is:
http://dl23.sygatetech.com/pub/bws/bws_49/pspf.exe
This link survived symantec clenaup.
If someone has newer sygate or signatures and would like to share give me a
sign and I will send real e-mail address for upload.
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I believe the last officially released Sygate Pro version was 5.5.2710.
So you appear to have it. There are various Pro 5.6 beta's and debug
builds floating around and available if you're so inclined to experiment
with them. You can find a few related posts on Wilders, along with
download links:
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=107347
and
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=110215
Some of the members of the Sygate forums have moved and now reside at
Wilders so you may be able to obtain more info from them.
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Kerodo |
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louise
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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SPG wrote:
| Quote: | I removed sygate and installed outpost (which migrated to 30 days trial
after update) next zonealarm. Now I want go back to sygate. What was last
version of Sygate Personal firewall Pro (pspf.exe)?
The same question about signatures.
pspf.exe was removed from sygate sites. Signatures also.
The newest I found was:
5.5 build 2710
signature: 1.0.1066
If someone needs original sygate pro from good source here it is:
http://dl23.sygatetech.com/pub/bws/bws_49/pspf.exe
This link survived symantec clenaup.
If someone has newer sygate or signatures and would like to share give me a
sign and I will send real e-mail address for upload.
greetings,
Zbigniew
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Mine (personal firewall pro) is build 2637 with the same
signature file |
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louise
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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Kerodo wrote:
| Quote: | SPG wrote:
I removed sygate and installed outpost (which migrated to 30 days trial
after update) next zonealarm. Now I want go back to sygate. What was last
version of Sygate Personal firewall Pro (pspf.exe)?
The same question about signatures.
pspf.exe was removed from sygate sites. Signatures also.
The newest I found was:
5.5 build 2710
signature: 1.0.1066
If someone needs original sygate pro from good source here it is:
http://dl23.sygatetech.com/pub/bws/bws_49/pspf.exe
This link survived symantec clenaup.
If someone has newer sygate or signatures and would like to share give
me a
sign and I will send real e-mail address for upload.
I believe the last officially released Sygate Pro version was 5.5.2710.
So you appear to have it. There are various Pro 5.6 beta's and debug
builds floating around and available if you're so inclined to experiment
with them. You can find a few related posts on Wilders, along with
download links:
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=107347
and
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=110215
Some of the members of the Sygate forums have moved and now reside at
Wilders so you may be able to obtain more info from them.
How long would it be "safe" to run Sygate when it is no |
longer being updated - program or signatures?
Louise |
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Iceman
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:05:19 +0100, SPG wrote in message
<dnl382$gu4$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>:
Is it free? |
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SPG
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:45 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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Kerodo wrote:
| Quote: | SPG wrote:
I removed sygate and installed outpost (which migrated to 30 days trial
after update) next zonealarm. Now I want go back to sygate. What was last
version of Sygate Personal firewall Pro (pspf.exe)?
The same question about signatures.
pspf.exe was removed from sygate sites. Signatures also.
The newest I found was:
5.5 build 2710
signature: 1.0.1066
If someone needs original sygate pro from good source here it is:
http://dl23.sygatetech.com/pub/bws/bws_49/pspf.exe
This link survived symantec clenaup.
If someone has newer sygate or signatures and would like to share give me
a sign and I will send real e-mail address for upload.
I believe the last officially released Sygate Pro version was 5.5.2710.
So you appear to have it. There are various Pro 5.6 beta's and debug
builds floating around and available if you're so inclined to experiment
with them. You can find a few related posts on Wilders, along with
download links:
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=107347
and
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=110215
Some of the members of the Sygate forums have moved and now reside at
Wilders so you may be able to obtain more info from them.
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Thanks. I didn't know about this. Last beta-debug version from these links
works well in WinXP SP2. |
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SPG
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:53 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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louise wrote:
| Quote: | Kerodo wrote:
SPG wrote:
I removed sygate and installed outpost (which migrated to 30 days trial
after update) next zonealarm. Now I want go back to sygate. What was
last version of Sygate Personal firewall Pro (pspf.exe)?
The same question about signatures.
pspf.exe was removed from sygate sites. Signatures also.
The newest I found was:
5.5 build 2710
signature: 1.0.1066
If someone needs original sygate pro from good source here it is:
http://dl23.sygatetech.com/pub/bws/bws_49/pspf.exe
This link survived symantec clenaup.
If someone has newer sygate or signatures and would like to share give
me a
sign and I will send real e-mail address for upload.
I believe the last officially released Sygate Pro version was 5.5.2710.
So you appear to have it. There are various Pro 5.6 beta's and debug
builds floating around and available if you're so inclined to experiment
with them. You can find a few related posts on Wilders, along with
download links:
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=107347
and
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=110215
Some of the members of the Sygate forums have moved and now reside at
Wilders so you may be able to obtain more info from them.
How long would it be "safe" to run Sygate when it is no
longer being updated - program or signatures?
Louise
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Sygate offers strong security as a firewall for most users. Keep updating
antivirus and adaware software and you'll be safe. Sygate by default blocks
all packets "nockig" to your computer so you are safe against present and
future worms, hackers flying arount Internet. The other problem is with
outgoing connections: decide wise when sygate asks for application
permissions - without updated signatures you are sygate's signture brain by
deciding which apps are bad or good. Sygate will learn from you if updated
signatures are not available. |
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Volker Birk
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:23 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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SPG <zamowienia3@o2.pl> wrote:
| Quote: | Sygate offers strong security as a firewall for most users.
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No.
Sygate does install system services which open Windows. This is a security
breach, and shows, that they never read the documentation of Microsoft for
developing system services, and that they're understanding nothing about
security with Windows at all.
| Quote: | adaware software and you'll be safe.
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This is ridiculous.
| Quote: | Sygate will learn from you if updated
signatures are not available.
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What a b0rken concept. Don't you think, that the provider of security
software should know MUCH MORE about security than the only one, who
knows _completely_ _nothing_ in this game, the user?
Yours,
VB.
--
"Ich bin ein freier Mensch und werde jetzt von meinen Freiheitsrechten
Gebrauch machen - und zwar ausgiebig - natürlich nur in dem Rahmen, den
Otto Schily mir noch zur Verfügung stellt."
Wolfgang Clement am 10.10.05 als Noch-Superminister |
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SPG
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| Posted:
Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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Volker Birk wrote:
| Quote: | SPG <zamowienia3@o2.pl> wrote:
Sygate offers strong security as a firewall for most users.
No.
Sygate does install system services which open Windows. This is a security
breach, and shows, that they never read the documentation of Microsoft for
developing system services, and that they're understanding nothing about
security with Windows at all.
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I said for most users. I use sygate since long time and never have problems
with it. I know about examples of code that auto clicks buttons on screen,
but in real world such appliaction from Internet must pass firewall,
antivirus and webrowser like firefox which do not use activex scripts.
And such worm must support particular firewall. So separate version of worm
should be for sygate, zone alarm, kerio, norton, outpost, tiny etc...
And of course it must be manualy downloaded from website if web browser do
not supports activex.
| Quote: | adaware software and you'll be safe.
This is ridiculous.
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firewall+antivirus+adaware can keep box safe in general. The only ridiculus
thing here is Windows which needs all this stuff to be usable on net.
Using such software on Linux is ridiculous but definitly not on Windows.
Blame Mr. Gates, not me, for system design.
If I was so aware like you I would never plug windows box on net.
If windows do not obey standards why software written for it should?
| Quote: | Sygate will learn from you if updated
signatures are not available.
What a b0rken concept. Don't you think, that the provider of security
software should know MUCH MORE about security than the only one, who
knows _completely_ _nothing_ in this game, the user?
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I made rules for webbrowsers, e-mail client and said to user: click always
NO. This is not so hard to learn.
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Volker Birk
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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SPG <zamowienia3@o2.pl> wrote:
| Quote: | SPG <zamowienia3@o2.pl> wrote:
Sygate offers strong security as a firewall for most users.
No.
Sygate does install system services which open Windows. This is a security
breach, and shows, that they never read the documentation of Microsoft for
developing system services, and that they're understanding nothing about
security with Windows at all.
I said for most users.
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Shell we really discuss on this level, "SPG"?
| Quote: | I use sygate since long time and never have problems
with it.
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Yes, and most of the malware you're running never had problems, too ;-)
| Quote: | I know about examples of code that auto clicks buttons on screen,
but in real world such appliaction from Internet must pass firewall,
antivirus and webrowser like firefox which do not use activex scripts.
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This has nothing to do with ActiveX.
| Quote: | And such worm must support particular firewall.
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No. My sample code runs with _any_ "Personal Firewall". And so will be
every code.
| Quote: | firewall+antivirus+adaware can keep box safe in general.
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No.
Understanding the problems and being careful can "keep box safe in general."
| Quote: | Blame Mr. Gates, not me, for system design.
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Oh, I do.
| Quote: | If windows do not obey standards why software written for it should?
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Standards? I'm referencing the documentation of MSDN.
Yours,
VB.
--
"Ich bin ein freier Mensch und werde jetzt von meinen Freiheitsrechten
Gebrauch machen - und zwar ausgiebig - natürlich nur in dem Rahmen, den
Otto Schily mir noch zur Verfügung stellt."
Wolfgang Clement am 10.10.05 als Noch-Superminister |
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Casey Klc
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:10 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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In article <439fac14@news.uni-ulm.de>, bumens@dingens.org says...
| Quote: | SPG <zamowienia3@o2.pl> wrote:
Sygate offers strong security as a firewall for most users.
No.
Sygate does install system services which open Windows.
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Hi again Volker,
Can you give some details on this? What does it mean?
What OS? What services? Are there any workarounds?
Thank you,
Casey |
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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiecher
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:39 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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Casey Klc wrote:
| Quote: | In article <439fac14@news.uni-ulm.de>, bumens@dingens.org says...
SPG <zamowienia3@o2.pl> wrote:
Sygate offers strong security as a firewall for most users.
No.
Sygate does install system services which open Windows.
Can you give some details on this? What does it mean?
What OS?
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Windows, of course. All NT-based versions, to be specific.
Sygate installs a system service which has (hidden) windows and may thus
be vulnerable to shatter attacks.
| Quote: | Are there any workarounds?
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Don't use Sygate.
cu
59cobalt
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"All vulnerabilities deserve a public fear period prior to patches
becoming available."
--Jason Coombs on Bugtraq |
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Volker Birk
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| Posted:
Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:14 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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Casey Klc <casey@notspecified.net> wrote:
| Quote: | SPG <zamowienia3@o2.pl> wrote:
Sygate offers strong security as a firewall for most users.
No.
Sygate does install system services which open Windows.
Hi again Volker,
Can you give some details on this? What does it mean?
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Please read http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;327618
Microsoft writes here:
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"Important: We strongly recommend that services do not run as interactive
services if the services run in an elevated security context such as SYSTEM.
For the Windows user interface, the desktop is the security boundary. Any
application that is running on the interactive desktop can interact with any
window that is on the interactive desktop, even if that window is not
displayed on the desktop. This behavior is true for every application,
regardless of the security context of the application that creates the
window and regardless of the security context of the application that is
running on the desktop. The Windows message system does not allow an
application to determine the source of a window message.
------------------------------------- snap ---------------------------------
Exactly this misbihaviour you can see with Sygate and with Outpost,
for example.
Windows OSes, the NT based ones (Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP,
Windows 2003).
The SYSTEM services, the "Personal Firewalls" are installing themselves.
| Quote: | Are there any workarounds?
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Yes. You don't need a "Personal Firewall". Just use the Windows-Firewall.
Yours,
VB.
--
"Ich bin ein freier Mensch und werde jetzt von meinen Freiheitsrechten
Gebrauch machen - und zwar ausgiebig - natürlich nur in dem Rahmen, den
Otto Schily mir noch zur Verfügung stellt."
Wolfgang Clement am 10.10.05 als Noch-Superminister |
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Casey Klc
Guest
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| Posted:
Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:16 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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In article <43a1c084@news.uni-ulm.de>, bumens@dingens.org says...
| Quote: | Casey Klc <casey@notspecified.net> wrote:
SPG <zamowienia3@o2.pl> wrote:
Sygate offers strong security as a firewall for most users.
No.
Sygate does install system services which open Windows.
Hi again Volker,
Can you give some details on this? What does it mean?
Please read http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;327618
Microsoft writes here:
------------------------------------- snip ---------------------------------
"Important: We strongly recommend that services do not run as interactive
services if the services run in an elevated security context such as SYSTEM.
For the Windows user interface, the desktop is the security boundary. Any
application that is running on the interactive desktop can interact with any
window that is on the interactive desktop, even if that window is not
displayed on the desktop. This behavior is true for every application,
regardless of the security context of the application that creates the
window and regardless of the security context of the application that is
running on the desktop. The Windows message system does not allow an
application to determine the source of a window message.
------------------------------------- snap ---------------------------------
Exactly this misbihaviour you can see with Sygate and with Outpost,
for example.
What OS?
Windows OSes, the NT based ones (Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP,
Windows 2003).
What services?
The SYSTEM services, the "Personal Firewalls" are installing themselves.
Are there any workarounds?
Yes. You don't need a "Personal Firewall". Just use the Windows-Firewall.
Yours,
VB.
Thank you both. |
Casey |
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SPG
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:56 am Post subject:
Re: 2 questions to Sygate firewall users |
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Iceman wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:05:19 +0100, SPG wrote in message
dnl382$gu4$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>:
If someone needs original sygate pro from good source here it is:
http://dl23.sygatetech.com/pub/bws/bws_49/pspf.exe
This link survived symantec clenaup.
Is it free?
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No this is Pro, commercial version. Because this is discontinued product so
can tell there is somwhere on the net keygen for it. |
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