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Alan Illeman
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: WinXP SP2 firewall Reply with quote

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:sLnof.191017$tD4.9943@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
Quote:
In article <11q3vv21pdbcn55@news.supernews.com>, illemann@surfbest.net
says...

"Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers" <usenet-2005@planetcobalt.net> wrote in message news:40drcoF19hmiuU2@individual.net...
Alan Illeman wrote:
"Triffid" <triffid@nebula.net> wrote in message news:NW3of.2425$El.260542@news20.bellglobal.com...
Alan Illeman wrote:
"Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers" <usenet-2005@planetcobalt.net> wrote in message news:40at1dF19h0avU1@individual.net...
That's plain wrong, because no firewall protects you from virii.
When a firewall detects an infection you're already toast.

That doesn't explain why I've been virus free for so long.

You are virus free because you use AVG.

The fact you also use a PFW is irrelevant. Claiming you are virus
free "because of" a PFW is plain wrong, as 59cobalt pointed out.

That is just plain silly. AVG doesn't prevent infections, it just
checks if they are present.

No. On-demand scanners allow you to scan files before you execute them.
On-access scanners check whether a file you're about to access/execute
is infected. Both will help you to avoid an infection.

On-demand, On-access -- I've no idea what you're talking about (and neither
do I want to know).

When I scan with AVG7 it tells me if there are any viruses present (it has not
happened yet) and I'm told that the infected file is placed in a secure 'virus
vault' - so I can replace the original from my backup disks/tape, whatever.

A resident scanner, something that runs in the background all the time,
like AVG7, will scan files in real time as they are accessed, and it
will also check memory in real time. An On-Demand scanner is one that is
not resident/running in the background, it only scans files/memory when
you click the button to do it.

Now I understand, thanks.
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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiecher
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: WinXP SP2 firewall Reply with quote

Alan Illeman wrote:
Quote:
"Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers" wrote in message news:40drcoF19hmiuU2@individual.net...
No. On-demand scanners allow you to scan files before you execute
them. On-access scanners check whether a file you're about to
access/execute is infected. Both will help you to avoid an infection.

On-demand, On-access -- I've no idea what you're talking about (and
neither do I want to know).

So you're trying to tell me "I'm an idiot and I'm not gonna change it"
or what? Is that it?

Quote:
When I scan with AVG7 it tells me if there are any viruses present (it
has not happened yet) and I'm told that the infected file is placed in
a secure 'virus vault' - so I can replace the original from my backup
disks/tape, whatever.

The fact that a virus is detected on your system does not necessarily
mean that your system is infected.

cu
59cobalt
--
"All vulnerabilities deserve a public fear period prior to patches
becoming available."
--Jason Coombs on Bugtraq
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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiecher
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: WinXP SP2 firewall Reply with quote

Alan Illeman wrote:
Quote:
"Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers" wrote in message news:40di8uF19odc0U1@individual.net...
You seriously need to get your terms straight. A firewall prevents
unwanted traffic between two or more networks. That's what firewalls
are made for.

That's what I just said,

No.

Quote:
maybe in not the same words, but that was the intention.

I can only read your words, not your intention. So if you want to be
understood correctly: use the correct terms. Don't say 'blue' when
you really mean 'red'.

Quote:
If I <allow> unauthorised access, someone <may> install a virus on my
PC.

*sigh*

Read my words and at least *try* to understand them this time:

THAT'S WHAT WORMS DO. THAT'S NOT WHAT VIRII DO.

Yes, the packet filter of a personal firewall can protect you from this
kind of threat (at least as long as it's self isn't subject to the
attack [1,2]). However, that protection can also be achieved by simply
not providing any services to the outside world [3].

[1] http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/167
[2] http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/virus/story/0,10801,93584,00.html
[3] http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

cu
59cobalt
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"Der Computer ist da, um zu rechnen, nicht um Ausreden wie 'Kann nicht
durch Null teilen' auf den Bildschirm zu schreiben."
--Marco Haschka in de.org.ccc
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