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GRL
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:
Recurrent question |
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Is it possible to have at the same time two personal firewalls? I think that
it depends on the specific firewalls: for example, is it possible to use
Norton firewall and Kerio?
Thanks.
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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiecher
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:
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GRL wrote:
| Quote: | Is it possible to have at the same time two personal firewalls? I
think that it depends on the specific firewalls: for example, is it
possible to use Norton firewall and Kerio?
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Of course it is. Make sure you wear a tinfoil hat, too.
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Volker Birk
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:
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GRL <giorel@tiscali.it> wrote:
| Quote: | Is it possible to have at the same time two personal firewalls? I think that
it depends on the specific firewalls: for example, is it possible to use
Norton firewall and Kerio?
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It is possible. And completely useless.
Just use the Windows-Firewall, and that's it.
Yours,
VB.
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Sla#s
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:14 am Post subject:
Re: Recurrent question |
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"Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
news:439aecf7@news.uni-ulm.de...
| Quote: | GRL <giorel@tiscali.it> wrote:
Is it possible to have at the same time two personal firewalls? I think
that
it depends on the specific firewalls: for example, is it possible to use
Norton firewall and Kerio?
It is possible. And completely useless.
Just use the Windows-Firewall, and that's it.
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Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
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Wolfgang Kueter
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:53 am Post subject:
Re: Recurrent question |
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Am Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:14:23 +0000 schrieb Sla#s:
| Quote: | Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
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Personal firewalls can't do that.
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Casey Klc
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:47 am Post subject:
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In article <pan.2005.12.10.21.53.41.815715@shconnect.de>,
wolfgang@shconnect.de says...
| Quote: | Am Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:14:23 +0000 schrieb Sla#s:
Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
Personal firewalls can't do that.
Wolfgang
Sygate does an excellent job blocking outgoing connection attempts. |
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Quaestor
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:40 am Post subject:
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Wolfgang Kueter wrote:
| Quote: | Am Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:14:23 +0000 schrieb Sla#s:
Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
Personal firewalls can't do that.
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Every one that I ever used did, and I used just about all of them (of
course I have not used the windows "firewall", which being a ms product
is a POS).
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Leythos
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:44 am Post subject:
Re: Recurrent question |
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In article <pan.2005.12.10.21.53.41.815715@shconnect.de>,
wolfgang@shconnect.de says...
| Quote: | Am Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:14:23 +0000 schrieb Sla#s:
Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
Personal firewalls can't do that.
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Personal firewalls can and do block outgoing traffic.
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Triffid
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:07 am Post subject:
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Leythos wrote:
| Quote: | In article <pan.2005.12.10.21.53.41.815715@shconnect.de>,
wolfgang@shconnect.de says...
Am Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:14:23 +0000 schrieb Sla#s:
Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
Personal firewalls can't do that.
Personal firewalls can and do block outgoing traffic.
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Only if the application generating the traffic isn't smart enough to
reconfigure, disable, or bypass the personal firewall.
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Quaestor
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
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Triffid wrote:
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Leythos wrote:
In article <pan.2005.12.10.21.53.41.815715@shconnect.de>,
wolfgang@shconnect.de says...
Am Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:14:23 +0000 schrieb Sla#s:
Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
Personal firewalls can't do that.
Personal firewalls can and do block outgoing traffic.
Only if the application generating the traffic isn't smart enough to
reconfigure, disable, or bypass the personal firewall.
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IF the personal firewall is running on a separate machine it gets a lot
harder to do that.
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Triffid
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:58 am Post subject:
Re: Recurrent question |
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Quaestor wrote:
| Quote: | Triffid wrote:
Leythos wrote:
In article <pan.2005.12.10.21.53.41.815715@shconnect.de>,
wolfgang@shconnect.de says...
Am Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:14:23 +0000 schrieb Sla#s:
Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
Personal firewalls can't do that.
Personal firewalls can and do block outgoing traffic.
Only if the application generating the traffic isn't smart enough to
reconfigure, disable, or bypass the personal firewall.
IF the personal firewall is running on a separate machine it gets a lot
harder to do that.
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Personal firewalls run on the client system by definition.
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Volker Birk
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
Re: Recurrent question |
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Casey Klc <casey@notspecified.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Sygate does an excellent job blocking outgoing connection attempts.
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It does not.
Try: http://www.dingens.org/breakout-en.c
http://www.dingens.org/breakout-en.exe (precompiled binary)
It cannot prevent a random process from sending arbitrary data at all.
BTW: Sygate "Personal Firewall" installs system services which open
Windows. And this is a big security breach. So Sygate makes your PC
more insecure compared to the Windows-Firewall. And Sygate show, that
they never read Microsoft's design guidelines for system services.
Yours,
VB.
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"Ich bin ein freier Mensch und werde jetzt von meinen Freiheitsrechten
Gebrauch machen - und zwar ausgiebig - natürlich nur in dem Rahmen, den
Otto Schily mir noch zur Verfügung stellt."
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Volker Birk
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
Re: Recurrent question |
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Quaestor <no-spam@my.place> wrote:
| Quote: | Personal firewalls run on the client system by definition.
So the same software running on a separate machine is not personal?
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The concept of a "Personal Firewall" system implies, that it contains
a filtering software, which is host based and is running on the same
machine as the software programs it should protect.
Any other thing I would not call a "Personal Firewall".
And if you're looking to products which are called "Personal Firewall",
then you can see that this definition is very common and widespread.
All of those products are intended to be driven like that.
Yours,
VB.
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"Ich bin ein freier Mensch und werde jetzt von meinen Freiheitsrechten
Gebrauch machen - und zwar ausgiebig - natürlich nur in dem Rahmen, den
Otto Schily mir noch zur Verfügung stellt."
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Volker Birk
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
Re: Recurrent question |
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Sla#s <phil@knotslatts.fsworld.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Just use the Windows-Firewall, and that's it.
Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
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Yes, and it's completely useless to try to block "outgoing", as you
can read here in my postings, together with the reasons for this and
some proofs.
Yours,
VB.
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"Ich bin ein freier Mensch und werde jetzt von meinen Freiheitsrechten
Gebrauch machen - und zwar ausgiebig - natürlich nur in dem Rahmen, den
Otto Schily mir noch zur Verfügung stellt."
Wolfgang Clement am 10.10.05 als Noch-Superminister |
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Quaestor
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
Re: Recurrent question |
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Triffid wrote:
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Quaestor wrote:
Triffid wrote:
Leythos wrote:
In article <pan.2005.12.10.21.53.41.815715@shconnect.de>,
wolfgang@shconnect.de says...
Am Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:14:23 +0000 schrieb Sla#s:
Windows Firewall only blocks incoming, it does not block outgoing.
Personal firewalls can't do that.
Personal firewalls can and do block outgoing traffic.
Only if the application generating the traffic isn't smart enough to
reconfigure, disable, or bypass the personal firewall.
IF the personal firewall is running on a separate machine it gets a
lot harder to do that.
Personal firewalls run on the client system by definition.
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So the same software running on a separate machine is not personal?
Will wonders never cease?
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