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hotshot
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:13 am Post subject:
How to Make Sygate PFW Childproof? |
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I have installed Sygate Personal Firewall (v5.5) on a Windows98 PC. Seems a
good product to me - shame it will no longer be supported. As this PC is
used by children, I wanted to "lock-down" the firewall so they could not
change any settings. By setting a password you can stop them opening the
console, but you still get a pop-up when a non-approved application wants to
access the Internet - and the user can answer "yes" without having to enter
a password. Am I missing something? |
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neutrino
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:47 am Post subject:
Re: How to Make Sygate PFW Childproof? |
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hotshot wrote:
| Quote: | I have installed Sygate Personal Firewall (v5.5) on a Windows98 PC. Seems a
good product to me - shame it will no longer be supported. As this PC is
used by children, I wanted to "lock-down" the firewall so they could not
change any settings. By setting a password you can stop them opening the
console, but you still get a pop-up when a non-approved application wants to
access the Internet - and the user can answer "yes" without having to enter
a password. Am I missing something?
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I don't have any in depth knowledge on that point - but I would be
surprised if it could do what you ask - you'd in effect be asking it to
Not monitor any new in or out going connections - but to Auto allow
or Auto Not allow anything new without asking - ( only permit
connections for items already in the rules) , I don't think that's
something you can turn on or off - not at home right now or I'd take a
look~ but I don't think so...
But...
this sale to Symantec !!!! main reason for this reply.....
this has been a great Firewall for a long time now - I'm also on
version 5.5, and have no intention of getting anything else ~ even if
there is no more support , it does what it's supposed to and does it
good! I see no reason to drop it- and certainly not for anything
symantec branded, I think the last version out was 5.6.... wonder
if there was anything significant in it? maybe someone can say.....
Aaah well ~ not much chance of getting an update to that one now anyway
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Maybe there's another way to kiddi-lock the pc ~ I may have some other
suggestion.. but the program name just isnt in mind right now - I'll
check up n come back later.... |
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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiecher
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:50 am Post subject:
Re: How to Make Sygate PFW Childproof? |
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hotshot wrote:
| Quote: | I have installed Sygate Personal Firewall (v5.5) on a Windows98 PC.
^^^^^^^^^
Seems a good product to me - shame it will no longer be supported. As
this PC is used by children, I wanted to "lock-down" the firewall so
they could not change any settings.
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Not possible.
cu
59cobalt
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erase the hard disk, then reinstall Mac OS X and your backed up files."
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hotshot
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Not monitor any new in or out going connections - but to Auto allow
or Auto Not allow anything new without asking - ( only permit
connections for items already in the rules)
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Yes that's exactly what want to do. The main reason I want to use a PFW is
to trap spyware that is trying to making outgoing connections (I have a
hardware firewall to block all incoming connections). Having "approved" all
the normal applications (internet browser, e-mail) I would not want the kids
to be able to "approve" other applications (which might be spyware).
"neutrino" <stuartr@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
news:1133743663.163526.196310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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hotshot wrote:
I have installed Sygate Personal Firewall (v5.5) on a Windows98 PC.
Seems a
good product to me - shame it will no longer be supported. As this PC is
used by children, I wanted to "lock-down" the firewall so they could not
change any settings. By setting a password you can stop them opening the
console, but you still get a pop-up when a non-approved application
wants to
access the Internet - and the user can answer "yes" without having to
enter
a password. Am I missing something?
I don't have any in depth knowledge on that point - but I would be
surprised if it could do what you ask - you'd in effect be asking it to
Not monitor any new in or out going connections - but to Auto allow
or Auto Not allow anything new without asking - ( only permit
connections for items already in the rules) , I don't think that's
something you can turn on or off - not at home right now or I'd take a
look~ but I don't think so...
But...
this sale to Symantec !!!! main reason for this reply.....
this has been a great Firewall for a long time now - I'm also on
version 5.5, and have no intention of getting anything else ~ even if
there is no more support , it does what it's supposed to and does it
good! I see no reason to drop it- and certainly not for anything
symantec branded, I think the last version out was 5.6.... wonder
if there was anything significant in it? maybe someone can say.....
Aaah well ~ not much chance of getting an update to that one now anyway
.
Maybe there's another way to kiddi-lock the pc ~ I may have some other
suggestion.. but the program name just isnt in mind right now - I'll
check up n come back later....
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neutrino
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:
Re: How to Make Sygate PFW Childproof? |
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http://www.softheap.com/newadmin.html
this takes you to a piece of software called 1st security agent, which
I used to have installed, I doubt if there's much we can do as far as
the firewall is concerned, but this might be another way to get the
result, though it migth also be a step in the wrong direction, and
involve a lot more setting up of the Pc to have two or more Users
profiles set into it ~ which may be a step you don't really want to get
into, but with independant profiles, and a log on for each at boot
time - you can then asign controls around those profiles via this
program - such as the permission or not to install new programs, access
or not to make any system changes, even desktop settings ~ Hmmm.. but
this is controlling what the person on the pc can do or cannot do -
it's not really the issue.. it's the auto "something" that might come
in off the internet, without anyone doing something deliberately,
ummmmm..... thinking... ~~ :) ~~ must be someway of doing this.....
locking it down, restricting the impact of any unauthorized
"whatever"... it should be able to be done.... could get involved,
and perhaps the inclusion of another program or two - such as the one
above, another one is "magic folders".... which as far as security is
concerned - access to a folder or disk drive (if you have multiple
disks or partition) you can set this to virtually hide any folder on
the pc!! in fact as far as anyone is concerned - even the system - the
folder does not exist!! untill you access m'folders via a key sequence
and password.. untill then whatever it's hiding - is simply not visible
or find'able on the system, and as such wouldnt be accessable even to
any incoming nasty from the net!
Norton Ghost ~ now we're getting even more involved! ha~.... but this
will backup an entire disk!! either to another partition or to dvd -
and can be reloaded if ever required... I use it to back up my C drive
(operating system only) and if ever I make an ooops! or anything else
causes one, even if the operating system gets corrupted, - I can
restore the entire drive to as-it-was when backed up.
It's all a matter of how far you want to go to get full control, if
you'v plenty of disk space - it's very likley you could set the kids
their very own C drive and access to nothing else on the system , and
no matter what takes place - your own C drive and any other partitions
are uneffected, a bit like having two pc's in one :)...
now theres a thought ~ pick up an older and basic Pc just for them to
use, internet and games. ha` but that might be going ~ just ~ a bit ~
too far .
but have a look at the programs mentioned here.. one or more might
help, or give you thoughts/ideas for an alternate solution. !
all the best..... |
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Jerry Gardner
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:00 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:13:18 -0000, hotshot wrote:
| Quote: | Am I missing something?
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Real parenting instead of an "electronic nanny"?
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Jerry Gardner
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Triffid
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:12 am Post subject:
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Jerry Gardner wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:13:18 -0000, hotshot wrote:
Am I missing something?
Real parenting instead of an "electronic nanny"?
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Your post erroneously implies "Real parenting" is an appropriate
substitute for technical controls.
Security is about defense in depth, which is achieved through the use of
administrative, technical, and physical controls working in concert.
In general we discuss technical controls here, without assuming posters
are ignorant of the other aspects of their security strategy.
Triffid |
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