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After taking months to make my hardware compliant to the demands of
some stupid DSL provider's software, I find out there's no
connection. I have 1965 phone lines in the house (there's thread in
the wires to color-code them). The master line is three-wire and I've
reduced it to two wires. I've been told online that you only need two
wires. But my DSL modem is still blinking - ie, not detecting a connection.

How do I make sure the problem isn't inside the house?
If I get phone connection on the DSL line, isn't that proof enough?
I want to do it myself.

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After taking months to make my hardware compliant to the demands of
some stupid DSL provider's software, I find out there's no
connection. I have 1965 phone lines in the house (there's thread in
the wires to color-code them). The master line is three-wire and I've
reduced it to two wires. I've been told online that you only need two
wires. But my DSL modem is still blinking - ie, not detecting a
connection.

How do I make sure the problem isn't inside the house?
If I get phone connection on the DSL line, isn't that proof enough?
I want to do it myself.

The usual proof is plugging the modem into the test jack inside the demarc*.
This often involves taking an extension cord (electric) outside and plugging
the modem (with its supplied telephone cable) directly into the socket where
the telephone signal comes into the house. If you get synch at the demarc,
your problem is with the house wiring. For an older home you may need an
adapter**.


*Demarc(ation) point: the dividing line between the telephone company's
maintnance and the house wiring that you are responsible for.

**You may need to make your own adapter, I didn't find one that goes from
piercing alligator clips to a female rj11:
http://www.specialized.net/ecommerce/sh ... sc=adapter

Makes plenty sence and may do just that.

But I wonder, if I decide to now terminate DSL (and
pay termination fee) and later in warmer weather
go hunting for the problem.. is there a way to
simulate DSL to check line quality, filters & al?
What matters? Resistance? Splice quality?

I plan to intall a "Network Inspection Device" which
will really be just a DPDT switch and an extra female
wall jack at the earliest point of division of our line
(which happens to be laundry room).

I really have every reason to believe the fault is
not inside our house, but I'm so annoyed with them.
[I'm a chemical engineer and my uncles, both electrical
engineers, helped me design and install the filtering
branchoffs last summer.]

At one point, when I spoke to telco through the DSL
line, they admitted as much but then retracted.

In the past 24 months they have twice accidentally
cut my phone line and every time, they want to charge
us the $95 bucks and come inside before they
find out it's their outside fault.

The "blue" NE USA has third world phone service and
it's the intrasingent labor unions who are to blame.
Back in 1996 I asked the CEO of Ameritech why their
unions didn't create obstacles and he told me they
knew it wasn't in their interest. In the same NYC
Harvard Club room in 6/01, I asked Bill McDonough
the same question (when he, then of ny.frb.gov and
Rodney Nichols of nyas.org, spoke on what goes wrong
in NYC tek biz) and he, a native Chicagoan, said the
Daleys would lock biz, pol & union together in a
room until agreement. It figures our pro-Saddam
part of the country has Saddam-quality phone service.

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