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by **James Knott** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:39 am

$Bill wrote:

James Knott wrote:

$Bill wrote:

David already supplied a solution.

???

The only note I see from him, is the one about the ToS.

Here's what he said:

"The Edimax PermaLink PRI-682
http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/PRI682.htm has two
WAN ports and performs load balancing."

Take a look at the description. It talks about using it's own DNS to get
inbound connections to use one path or the other. It will not, for
example, split a large file transfer over both paths in that situation.
So, if you get one DNS request that tells the remote site, to use path "A"
and then start a large transfer. the next request will be told to use path
"B". And the 3rd request will point back to A again. Now if both the
connections to A are large transfers and the single one to B is small,
you'll wind up with most of the data going via A. This is not true load
balancing, which should equally spread the traffic across the two paths
(assuming equal bandwidth). You can also use this sort of device between
two points to load balance, provided you have one of those boxes at each
end.

by **James Knott** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:40 am

David H. Lipman wrote:

| The only note I see from him, is the one about the ToS.

Why ?

At the time I posted the above, I could only see the one entry from you.
Now there are multiple.

by **David H. Lipman** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:43 am

From: "$Bill" <news@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>

All looks great on the Netgear except...
Performance Features:
· Throughput: Up to 11.5 Mbps WAN-to-LAN, up to 2.1 Mbps for 3DES throughput

I know some cable companies are upto 10Mb/s already.
|

| How much of your traffic is going to be VPN ?
|

I'm not thinking about the VPN part. I'm thinking w/o VPN.
11.5Mb/s may be OK Today, but Tomorrow ???
Two 6Mb/s cable WAN links would max. it out.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

by **Eric** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:20 pm

You can get a business account for about $100/mo. However, I think for
this application it would be considered a bulk residential account,
and, while still cheaper than setting up individual accounts for all
the tennants, will be much more. I know Comcast offers such a service,
usually bundling tv service as well, but I have no idea how much it is,
and I'm sure it requires a contract.

by **B.M. Wright** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:42 am

Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

On 21 Nov 2005 11:46:53 -0800, DerekC wrote:
If I get two comcast internet subscriptions into my home, will I get
double performance?

Assuming I have two PCs and each download something from each cable
modem.

I will be impressed if you get the two modems. They will want to leave
the plug on the drop open for the neighbors.

This really doesn't matter. The cable into the house has plenty
of bandwidth, more than you'll get out of a single connection. It's
possible to hook two different modems up to common cabling in a single
household.

All the cable company cares about is that they recognize the MAC
address of the modem, it's possible to move it to a completely different
house serviced by the same company and get service. This is without
changing your "address" as far as they know. I've take a modem to a
location several miles away in the same city, plugged it on a cable from
the same provider and fired it up, no problems, as long as there are no
signal/quality issues on the cabling.

So, why not order service at your address and your neighbor's
then stick both modems in one house if they need to be located together?

by **David H. Lipman** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:20 pm

From: "B.M. Wright" <bmwright@xmission.xmission.com>

|
| This really doesn't matter. The cable into the house has plenty
| of bandwidth, more than you'll get out of a single connection. It's
| possible to hook two different modems up to common cabling in a single
| household.
|
| All the cable company cares about is that they recognize the MAC
| address of the modem, it's possible to move it to a completely different
| house serviced by the same company and get service. This is without
| changing your "address" as far as they know. I've take a modem to a
| location several miles away in the same city, plugged it on a cable from
| the same provider and fired it up, no problems, as long as there are no
| signal/quality issues on the cabling.
|
| So, why not order service at your address and your neighbor's
| then stick both modems in one house if they need to be located together?

Maybe, but that's fraud.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

by **$Bill** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:09 pm

David H. Lipman wrote:

From: "B.M. Wright" <bmwright@xmission.xmission.com

|
| This really doesn't matter. The cable into the house has plenty
| of bandwidth, more than you'll get out of a single connection. It's
| possible to hook two different modems up to common cabling in a single
| household.
|
| All the cable company cares about is that they recognize the MAC
| address of the modem, it's possible to move it to a completely different
| house serviced by the same company and get service. This is without
| changing your "address" as far as they know. I've take a modem to a
| location several miles away in the same city, plugged it on a cable from
| the same provider and fired it up, no problems, as long as there are no
| signal/quality issues on the cabling.
|
| So, why not order service at your address and your neighbor's
| then stick both modems in one house if they need to be located together?

Maybe, but that's fraud.

Doesn't sound like fraud to me - you're paying for two services and
getting two. If you used the neighbor's name, there could be some
sort of an issue, but otherwise I don't see it.

by **David H. Lipman** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:23 pm

From: "$Bill" <news@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>

|
| Doesn't sound like fraud to me - you're paying for two services and
| getting two. If you used the neighbor's name, there could be some
| sort of an issue, but otherwise I don't see it.
|

Ok, But there is certainly a Grey area there concerning the law.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

by **Warren** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:37 pm

$Bill wrote:

David H. Lipman wrote:

From: "B.M. Wright" <bmwright@xmission.xmission.com

|
| This really doesn't matter. The cable into the house has plenty
| of bandwidth, more than you'll get out of a single connection. It's
| possible to hook two different modems up to common cabling in a single
| household.
|
| All the cable company cares about is that they recognize the MAC
| address of the modem, it's possible to move it to a completely
different
| house serviced by the same company and get service. This is without
| changing your "address" as far as they know. I've take a modem to a
| location several miles away in the same city, plugged it on a cable
from
| the same provider and fired it up, no problems, as long as there are no
| signal/quality issues on the cabling.
|
| So, why not order service at your address and your neighbor's
| then stick both modems in one house if they need to be located
together?

Maybe, but that's fraud.

Doesn't sound like fraud to me - you're paying for two services and
getting two. If you used the neighbor's name, there could be some
sort of an issue, but otherwise I don't see it.

If it's not fraud, then why not be open about it, instead of using some
deceptive move like registering the service at a different address?

This is no different than using a front man to allow a felon to get a liquor
license. The argument that "it's a bar, and it has a license" is irrelevant
if that license was obtained by deception. That's fraud. Yes, in this case
two services are being received, and two are being paid for, but there was
the same deception involved. It's obviously fraud.

The "ends" are not the only issue. The "means" are germane. Reaching the
desired ends by deceptive means is fraud.

Do it the right way, or don't do it.

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by **$Bill** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:28 pm

Warren wrote:

$Bill wrote:

Doesn't sound like fraud to me - you're paying for two services and
getting two. If you used the neighbor's name, there could be some
sort of an issue, but otherwise I don't see it.

If it's not fraud, then why not be open about it, instead of using some
deceptive move like registering the service at a different address?

What part is supposedly deceptive ? Was the plan to use the neighbor's name
as well as the address ? Or just the address ? Or neither - just the drop ?

The only reason I can think of is because the provider may have some stupid
rule to prevent it which has no basis in actuality - wouldn't be the first
time someone made up a rule 'just in case' and then everyone is stuck with
it when it has no rationale in the first place.

This is no different than using a front man to allow a felon to get a liquor
license. The argument that "it's a bar, and it has a license" is irrelevant
if that license was obtained by deception. That's fraud. Yes, in this case
two services are being received, and two are being paid for, but there was
the same deception involved. It's obviously fraud.

That's not a proper analogy since he was able to get his own line all
by himself - in your analogy, he wouldn't be able to.

The "ends" are not the only issue. The "means" are germane. Reaching the
desired ends by deceptive means is fraud.

There's right, legally right and morally right. It's up to you to decide
which of these fits and which you are comfortable with.

Do it the right way, or don't do it.

Do it the right way or be prepared to endure any consequences.

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