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DerekC
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:46 am Post subject:
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If I get two comcast internet subscriptions into my home, will I get
double performance?
Assuming I have two PCs and each download something from each cable
modem.
Will these two subscriptions actually share a common pipe some where up
stream? |
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Timothy Daniels
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:07 am Post subject:
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"DerekC" wrote:
| Quote: | Will these two subscriptions actually share a common pipe
some where up stream?
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Yes, but the common pipe will have more bandwidth. than
your two measely pipes.
*TimDaniels* |
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Warren
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:28 am Post subject:
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DerekC wrote:
| Quote: | If I get two comcast internet subscriptions into my home, will I get
double performance?
Assuming I have two PCs and each download something from each cable
modem.
Will these two subscriptions actually share a common pipe some where up
stream?
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The whole concept of the Internet is based on "common pipes" somewhere
upstream.
If you have two cable modems, and are paying for two accounts, the effect is
the same as if you have a cable modem, and your neighbor has a cable modem.
In all likelyhood, your neighborhood node has room for more than one more
customer, and the local bottleneck is going to be what each modem is capped
at, not the capacity of the node.
However, you may or may not be able to get your cable company to provide
such service. The databases that are used by the software packages usually
used by cable companies are based on GIS data. In the GIS database, your
residence will be one location, and will be able to have one account. It is
possible to alter things to make your residence appear as two residences,
but it requires not just a one-time change, but a flag so that when the GIS
data is updated your one residence can still appear as two, even though the
raw data shows it as one.
An easier thing for many cable companies to do is to offer you a
business-class account. That means the GIS data doesn't need to be changed;
just the class of your account needs to be changed. Not all cable companies
offer business packages, and those that do may not offer it in all areas or
may not offer it to residential properties.
If your cable company markets services direct to businesses, your best bet
would likely be to contact that department. The multitude of agents set-up
to sell residential services may not be aware of all the options that may be
available to you, and even if they are, they aren't used to selling them
everyday. They're also probably being timed as to how long they spend with
each customer, so they have no incentive to spend extra time with you, while
the business account folks usually don't have time-based goals, and are
encouraged to spend the time it takes to sell the right services.
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Warren H.
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$Bill
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:42 am Post subject:
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DerekC wrote:
| Quote: | If I get two comcast internet subscriptions into my home, will I get
double performance?
Assuming I have two PCs and each download something from each cable
modem.
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Would you actually have that much bandwidth need to warrant paying
an extra $40 or so a month ? Chances are sticking a router on a single
connection will get you all you would ever need except for the rarest
of occasions. |
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Bit Twister
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:48 am Post subject:
Re: If I get two comcast internet subscriptions into my home |
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On 21 Nov 2005 11:46:53 -0800, DerekC wrote:
| Quote: | If I get two comcast internet subscriptions into my home, will I get
double performance?
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I'll vote no assuming you buy one cable modem and two ip addresses.
| Quote: | Assuming I have two PCs and each download something from each cable
modem.
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I will be impressed if you get the two modems. They will want to leave
the plug on the drop open for the neighbors.
| Quote: | Will these two subscriptions actually share a common pipe some where up
stream?
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You bet. There is only one cable running down the alley/street not to
mention everyone sharing your gateway.
Now you buy one cable modem with one ip address, one router, and hook
both boxes to the router you are in the same boat less the cost of the
extra ip address.
In either case (1 or 2 ip) you get to decide what the size of the pipe
is downloaded into the cable modem from comcast. I have the 4 mbsec
service. |
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DerekC
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:26 am Post subject:
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Actually, it is for providing 60 tenants free internet access in an
apartment complex.
Each of these two cables (and one cable modem on each) and take care of
30 apartment units thru a linksys router. $50 x2 = $100 a month for two
cable subscriptions sure beats getting a T1 line (over $600 a month)
and most surfer will download more than upload. In fact, the bandwith
is proportional to the number of subscription, we would like to order
like five of them for $200 and it still beats a T1 line. |
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David H. Lipman
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:33 am Post subject:
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From: "DerekC" <derekc@beyondautomation.com>
| Actually, it is for providing 60 tenants free internet access in an
| apartment complex.
| Each of these two cables (and one cable modem on each) and take care of
| 30 apartment units thru a linksys router. $50 x2 = $100 a month for two
| cable subscriptions sure beats getting a T1 line (over $600 a month)
| and most surfer will download more than upload. In fact, the bandwith
| is proportional to the number of subscription, we would like to order
| like five of them for $200 and it still beats a T1 line.
I think you find that is a violation of the Comcast Terms of Use policy since you are
providing their service to others thaat are not mebers of your family.
http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp
ix. "resell the Service or otherwise make available to anyone outside the Premises the
ability to use the Service (i.e. wi-fi, or other methods of networking), in whole or in
part, directly or indirectly, or on a bundled or unbundled basis. The Service is for
personal and non-commercial use only and you agree not to use the Service for operation as
an Internet service provider or for any business enterprise or purpose, or as an end-point
on a non-Comcast local area network or wide area network; "
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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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DerekC
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:35 am Post subject:
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| I see. It was just a thought. |
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James Knott
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:
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Bit Twister wrote:
| Quote: | I will be impressed if you get the two modems. They will want to leave
the plug on the drop open for the neighbors.
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They can always use a splitter on one connection. |
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James Knott
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:
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DerekC wrote:
| Quote: | and it still beats a T1 line
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It doesn't take much to beat a T1, more properly called DS1. A DS1 runs at
a max of 1.544 Mb/s. ADSL and cable modems routinely exceed that for
downloads. For example, my cable modem runs at 5 Mb/s (800K up) and I have
often seen close to that in practice. |
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James Knott
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:
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David H. Lipman wrote:
| Quote: | | Actually, it is for providing 60 tenants free internet access in an
| apartment complex.
| Each of these two cables (and one cable modem on each) and take care of
| 30 apartment units thru a linksys router. $50 x2 = $100 a month for two
| cable subscriptions sure beats getting a T1 line (over $600 a month)
| and most surfer will download more than upload. In fact, the bandwith
| is proportional to the number of subscription, we would like to order
| like five of them for $200 and it still beats a T1 line.
I think you find that is a violation of the Comcast Terms of Use policy
since you are providing their service to others thaat are not mebers of
your family.
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He'd need a business account, to do what he wants. |
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f/fgeorge
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:21 am Post subject:
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:59:17 -0500, James Knott
<james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | David H. Lipman wrote:
| Actually, it is for providing 60 tenants free internet access in an
| apartment complex.
| Each of these two cables (and one cable modem on each) and take care of
| 30 apartment units thru a linksys router. $50 x2 = $100 a month for two
| cable subscriptions sure beats getting a T1 line (over $600 a month)
| and most surfer will download more than upload. In fact, the bandwith
| is proportional to the number of subscription, we would like to order
| like five of them for $200 and it still beats a T1 line.
I think you find that is a violation of the Comcast Terms of Use policy
since you are providing their service to others thaat are not mebers of
your family.
He'd need a business account, to do what he wants.
ACTUALLY he could do what he wants IF he got cable AND dsl connections |
in his home. The 2 companies would not have to even know about the
other one. True dsl is not upto cable speeds but it is fast and would
solve the 2 cable modems from one company issue. |
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$Bill
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:50 am Post subject:
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f/fgeorge wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:59:17 -0500, James Knott
james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
ACTUALLY he could do what he wants IF he got cable AND dsl connections
in his home. The 2 companies would not have to even know about the
other one. True dsl is not upto cable speeds but it is fast and would
solve the 2 cable modems from one company issue.
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That would make sense and a router that can load level/manage on the
two (or more) interfaces. |
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David H. Lipman
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:24 am Post subject:
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From: "$Bill" <news@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
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| Quote: | On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:59:17 -0500, James Knott
james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
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ACTUALLY he could do what he wants IF he got cable AND dsl connections
in his home. The 2 companies would not have to even know about the
other one. True dsl is not upto cable speeds but it is fast and would
solve the 2 cable modems from one company issue.
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| That would make sense and a router that can load level/manage on the
| two (or more) interfaces.
The Edimax PermaLink PRI-682 http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/PRI682.htm has two
WAN ports and performs load balancing.
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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James Knott
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
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f/fgeorge wrote:
| Quote: | He'd need a business account, to do what he wants.
ACTUALLY he could do what he wants IF he got cable AND dsl connections
in his home. The 2 companies would not have to even know about the
other one. True dsl is not upto cable speeds but it is fast and would
solve the 2 cable modems from one company issue.
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Well, with that solution, there'll be routing issues and how would the
double price compare with a business service? |
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