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Mr Spud
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:46 am    Post subject: sygate or ZoneAlarm Reply with quote

Hi all, how would you rate sygate free edition firewall compared to Zone
Alarm 5.5?

What do you consider to be the better fo the two?

TIA,

Mike.
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Volker Birk
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: sygate or ZoneAlarm Reply with quote

Mr Spud <MasterPotatoe@everywhere.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi all, how would you rate sygate free edition firewall compared to Zone
Alarm 5.5?

The same shit, even worse. Just use the Windows-Firewall.

Quote:
What do you consider to be the better fo the two?

The better? None of them. The less worse one is Zone Alarm, because
Sygate even installs system services, which are opening windows. This
is a security breach, and shows, that Sygate don't have a clue of
Windows system programming.

Zone Labs' people don't understand data security at all either. They
proof this by offering a function, which filters away PINs out of
transmitted data.

It is possible to abuse this for finding out the data, which should be
protected by this function. So Zone Alarm publicizes here, what it should
protect.

People who don't understand data security concepts at all should not
produce security products IMHO.

Yours,
VB.
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"Ich bin ein freier Mensch und werde jetzt von meinen Freiheitsrechten
Gebrauch machen - und zwar ausgiebig - natürlich nur in dem Rahmen, den
Otto Schily mir noch zur Verfügung stellt."
Wolfgang Clement am 10.10.05 als Noch-Superminister
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bumtracks
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:12 am    Post subject: Re: sygate or ZoneAlarm Reply with quote

Recommend ZoneLabs, and you become a neverending helpdesk.
Recommend Sygate, and you're done.

firewall's only job is supposed to be opening and closing the right ports
and aiming those ports back at the right computeror application that asked a
question to begin with.. or something like that. Too many firewalls are
trying to do too much and users are killing their own security because they
dont have a clue when they start configuring things.
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Mr Spud
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: sygate or ZoneAlarm Reply with quote

Volker Birk wrote:
Quote:
Mr Spud <MasterPotatoe@everywhere.com> wrote:
Hi all, how would you rate sygate free edition firewall compared to Zone
Alarm 5.5?

The same shit, even worse. Just use the Windows-Firewall.

What do you consider to be the better fo the two?

The better? None of them. The less worse one is Zone Alarm, because
Sygate even installs system services, which are opening windows. This
is a security breach, and shows, that Sygate don't have a clue of
Windows system programming.

Zone Labs' people don't understand data security at all either. They
proof this by offering a function, which filters away PINs out of
transmitted data.

It is possible to abuse this for finding out the data, which should be
protected by this function. So Zone Alarm publicizes here, what it should
protect.

People who don't understand data security concepts at all should not
produce security products IMHO.

Yours,
VB.


Ok, thats a fair enough answere.
So in your opinion as a firewall what would you use.
BTW I am running XP Pro with all updates.
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Volker Birk
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: sygate or ZoneAlarm Reply with quote

Mr Spud <MasterPotatoe@everywhere.com> wrote:
Quote:
So in your opinion as a firewall what would you use.

For Windows XP? The Windows-Firewall.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Ich bin ein freier Mensch und werde jetzt von meinen Freiheitsrechten
Gebrauch machen - und zwar ausgiebig - natürlich nur in dem Rahmen, den
Otto Schily mir noch zur Verfügung stellt."
Wolfgang Clement am 10.10.05 als Noch-Superminister
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Casey Klc
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:48 am    Post subject: Re: sygate or ZoneAlarm Reply with quote

In article <43819113@news.uni-ulm.de>, bumens@dingens.org says...
Quote:
Mr Spud <MasterPotatoe@everywhere.com> wrote:
So in your opinion as a firewall what would you use.

For Windows XP? The Windows-Firewall.

Yours,
VB.

What would you use on a Windows 98 that has essentially

no services (except kernel32.dll)? Sygate?
Casey
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The Outsider
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:27 am    Post subject: Re: sygate or ZoneAlarm Reply with quote

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:48:37 GMT, Casey Klc <casey@notspecified.net>
wrote:


Quote:
What would you use on a Windows 98 that has essentially
no services (except kernel32.dll)? Sygate?
Casey

Kerio 2.5.1
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Volker Birk
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: sygate or ZoneAlarm Reply with quote

Casey Klc <casey@notspecified.net> wrote:
Quote:
What would you use on a Windows 98 that has essentially
no services (except kernel32.dll)? Sygate?

No firewall needed. Just unbind anything on the outside interface except
TCP/IP.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Ich bin ein freier Mensch und werde jetzt von meinen Freiheitsrechten
Gebrauch machen - und zwar ausgiebig - natürlich nur in dem Rahmen, den
Otto Schily mir noch zur Verfügung stellt."
Wolfgang Clement am 10.10.05 als Noch-Superminister
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