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Owl Jolsen
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:55 am Post subject:
At one of our competitors ....... |
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We are covering the Trophee Bompard figure skating competition this week,
and on one of our competitors Web sites, someone is logging on, from work,
in a way where her boss has no CLUE as to what she is doing.
I talked to someone at Figure Skating Universe, one of our competitors in
online sports coverage, and this one woman is using an encrypted anonymising
service to log on to Figure Skating Universe, and her boss has NO CLUE that
she is logged on to Figure Skating Universe all day. The admins at her
workplace knows that she has a 128-but encrypted VPN tunnel, over ports 80
and/or 443, to an anonymising service, but they have NO CLUE that she is
logged on to a figure skating discussion board all day. She has put one
over on the admins at her workplace.
Anyone reading this could have somone at your workplace, logged onto
Figure Skating Universe, right now, and you would never know what she is
up to, if she just happens to be working in one of your shops. This being
an Olympic season, the real SERIOUS ice skating fans will do ANYTHING to
keep up with the latest results at competitions. This is why at OUR service,
my engineers are continually develtoping countermeasures for every measure
that admins try and use to block us. Services like Anonymous Demonic Media
(our service), Icecalc, Widge-Data, MediaZone, PPLive, Glacier Omnimedia,
Eurosport, and others, were designed with the serious sports fan in mind. |
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Leythos
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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In article <20051118195530.1712.qmail@nym.alias.net>,
owljolsen@nym.alias.net says...
| Quote: | Anyone reading this could have somone at your workplace, logged onto
Figure Skating Universe, right now, and you would never know what she is
up to, if she just happens to be working in one of your shops. This being
an Olympic season, the real SERIOUS ice skating fans will do ANYTHING to
keep up with the latest results at competitions. This is why at OUR service,
my engineers are continually develtoping countermeasures for every measure
that admins try and use to block us. Services like Anonymous Demonic Media
(our service), Icecalc, Widge-Data, MediaZone, PPLive, Glacier Omnimedia,
Eurosport, and others, were designed with the serious sports fan in mind
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You're posting this drivel again, although in a different tact this
time.
Any quality firewall will block the users ability to connect to your
crappy service and there is nothing that your "engineers" can do about
it.
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Charles Newman
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:EOwff.109424$Hs.18702@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
| Quote: | In article <20051118195530.1712.qmail@nym.alias.net>,
owljolsen@nym.alias.net says...
Anyone reading this could have somone at your workplace, logged onto
Figure Skating Universe, right now, and you would never know what she is
up to, if she just happens to be working in one of your shops. This being
an Olympic season, the real SERIOUS ice skating fans will do ANYTHING to
keep up with the latest results at competitions. This is why at OUR
service,
my engineers are continually develtoping countermeasures for every
measure
that admins try and use to block us. Services like Anonymous Demonic
Media
(our service), Icecalc, Widge-Data, MediaZone, PPLive, Glacier Omnimedia,
Eurosport, and others, were designed with the serious sports fan in mind
You're posting this drivel again, although in a different tact this
time.
Any quality firewall will block the users ability to connect to your
crappy service and there is nothing that your "engineers" can do about
it.
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Not to start another flamewar that will last for months, but PPLive,
which the OP mentions, has changed their system again. Now to
block it, you will have to block ports all the way out to 42000. I
have the Socks server on my network configured to block everything
from ports 80 through 42000. To keep PPlive from maxing out your
network bandwidth, you will have to create a rule that will block
everything from ports 80 through 42000, unless another rule
supersedes it for an application you might need. Just one
client connected to PPlive will completely max out your
bandwidth, though I was able to find out that Comcast, in
my area, not was 4041KB download and 381KB upload. To
block PPlive, without disrupting anything else, you will need something
like Tiny, where one rule can take precedence over another. Tiny and
ConSeal have this feature, which makes both products better than a
hardware appliance. |
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Moe Trin
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:40 am Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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In the Usenet newsgroup comp.security.firewalls, in article
<idadnRChHeFcQ-PeRVn-rA@comcast.com>, Charles Newman wrote:
s" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
| Quote: | owljolsen@nym.alias.net says...
Anyone reading this could have somone at your workplace, logged onto
Figure Skating Universe, right now, and you would never know what she is
up to, if she just happens to be working in one of your shops.
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And I'll bet you also would never know if an 18 wheeler drove through your
living room. Little things like that are easy to miss.
| Quote: | Any quality firewall will block the users ability to connect to your
crappy service and there is nothing that your "engineers" can do about
it.
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Sure - they can beam it in from the orbiting mind control satellite. Why
do you think he's trying to buy futures in tin foil hats on the Mercantile?
| Quote: | Not to start another flamewar that will last for months
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Then don't. Just don't post any more obvious false statements about things
you know nothing about.
| Quote: | but PPLive, which the OP mentions, has changed their system again. Now
to block it, you will have to block ports all the way out to 42000. I
have the Socks server on my network configured to block everything
from ports 80 through 42000.
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So you still haven't been able to figure out which of your users is
trying to connect? You've got a total of four systems, isn't it? Maybe
you should ask your expert down at CompUSA about installing a keylogger.
Charles, you should call 1-800-555-1212 and ask the operator for the
telephone number for "Geeks On Call". They'll even come out to your house
and fix your computers for you - and they'll even spend some (billable)
time with you explaining things. Seeing as how you only have a few system,
it shouldn't cost you more than a couple of hundred bucks. They'll fix
the obviously b0rken configuration you have on your network - you'll be
very pleased.
Old guy |
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Leythos
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:34 am Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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In article <idadnRChHeFcQ-PeRVn-rA@comcast.com>, charlesnewman1
@comcast.spam-me-not.net says...
| Quote: | Not to start another flamewar that will last for months, but PPLive,
which the OP mentions, has changed their system again. Now to
block it, you will have to block ports all the way out to 42000. I
have the Socks server on my network configured to block everything
from ports 80 through 42000. To keep PPlive from maxing out your
network bandwidth, you will have to create a rule that will block
everything from ports 80 through 42000
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Charles, again, you are playing with Toys and not real firewalls. If you
have a real firewall, as most corporate users would, it's going to be
easy to block and does not require blocking those ports - which would
already be blocked.
You really need to do yourself a favor, get a real firewall or at least
buy a book on real firewalls (anything in the last 10 years will be new
enough) and learn about what you seem to show no understanding of.
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Guest
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Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:34:40 GMT, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:
| Quote: | Charles, again, you are playing with Toys and not real firewalls. If you
have a real firewall, as most corporate users would, it's going to be
easy to block and does not require blocking those ports - which would
already be blocked.
You really need to do yourself a favor, get a real firewall or at least
buy a book on real firewalls (anything in the last 10 years will be new
enough) and learn about what you seem to show no understanding of.
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Well, I'm at a loss. This thread makes my head hurt. It's like one of
those Chinese puzzles where you don't know where to even start in
unraveling it.
While I have nothing but respect for Kerio & Tiny, Charles is
just...out there. Way out there.
Maybe the OP, OwlJolsen, should snap Charles up and set him up in
charge of network security at his company. Sounds like a perfect match
that would rival anything Monster.com could come up with...
I'm off to wrap my Cisco appliance in aluminum foil to keep the evil
alien micro-beams that permeate the Interweb from seeping into my LAN. |
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Triffid
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:38 am Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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Owl Jolsen wrote:
| Quote: | We are covering the Trophee Bompard figure skating competition this week,
and on one of our competitors Web sites, someone is logging on, from work,
in a way where her boss has no CLUE as to what she is doing.
I talked to someone at Figure Skating Universe, one of our competitors in
online sports coverage, and this one woman is using an encrypted anonymising
service to log on to Figure Skating Universe, and her boss has NO CLUE that
she is logged on to Figure Skating Universe all day. The admins at her
workplace knows that she has a 128-but encrypted VPN tunnel, over ports 80
and/or 443, to an anonymising service, but they have NO CLUE that she is
logged on to a figure skating discussion board all day. She has put one
over on the admins at her workplace.
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The admins know her traffic is not business related, but have not
blocked it. Ergo, they are collecting evidence in preparation for
termination with cause.
Triffid
| Quote: | Anyone reading this could have somone at your workplace, logged onto
Figure Skating Universe, right now, and you would never know what she is
up to, if she just happens to be working in one of your shops. This being
an Olympic season, the real SERIOUS ice skating fans will do ANYTHING to
keep up with the latest results at competitions. This is why at OUR service,
my engineers are continually develtoping countermeasures for every measure
that admins try and use to block us. Services like Anonymous Demonic Media
(our service), Icecalc, Widge-Data, MediaZone, PPLive, Glacier Omnimedia,
Eurosport, and others, were designed with the serious sports fan in mind. |
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Triffid
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:43 am Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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gray.wizard@moria.mines wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:34:40 GMT, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:
Charles, again, you are playing with Toys and not real firewalls. If you
have a real firewall, as most corporate users would, it's going to be
easy to block and does not require blocking those ports - which would
already be blocked.
You really need to do yourself a favor, get a real firewall or at least
buy a book on real firewalls (anything in the last 10 years will be new
enough) and learn about what you seem to show no understanding of.
Well, I'm at a loss. This thread makes my head hurt. It's like one of
those Chinese puzzles where you don't know where to even start in
unraveling it.
While I have nothing but respect for Kerio & Tiny, Charles is
just...out there. Way out there.
Maybe the OP, OwlJolsen, should snap Charles up and set him up in
charge of network security at his company. Sounds like a perfect match
that would rival anything Monster.com could come up with...
I'm off to wrap my Cisco appliance in aluminum foil to keep the evil
alien micro-beams that permeate the Interweb from seeping into my LAN.
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Damn, used a whole roll and still got Martians all over :-(
Help me Charles, where can I get toyfoil?
Triffid |
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Moe Trin
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:55 am Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.security.firewalls, in
article <dJugf.7147$gK4.256217@news20.bellglobal.com>, Triffid wrote:
| Quote: | gray.wizard@moria.mines wrote:
I'm off to wrap my Cisco appliance in aluminum foil to keep the evil
alien micro-beams that permeate the Interweb from seeping into my LAN.
Damn, used a whole roll and still got Martians all over :-(
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Did you roll the seams? If you just layered it on, they get around
the edges. You need to roll and crimp it.
Old guy |
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Guest
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:55:07 -0600, ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld
(Moe Trin) wrote:
| Quote: | Did you roll the seams? If you just layered it on, they get around
the edges. You need to roll and crimp it.
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I did just layer it on, but I vaccuum-sealed it in a freezer bag using
one of those devices like you see on those late night infomercials.
Starving them of oxygen is my last line of defense... |
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Mike
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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Owl Jolsen wrote:
| Quote: | Anyone reading this could have somone at your workplace, logged onto
Figure Skating Universe, right now, and you would never know what she is
up to, if she just happens to be working in one of your shops. This being
an Olympic season, the real SERIOUS ice skating fans will do ANYTHING to
keep up with the latest results at competitions. This is why at OUR service,
my engineers are continually develtoping countermeasures for every measure
that admins try and use to block us. Services like Anonymous Demonic Media
(our service), Icecalc, Widge-Data, MediaZone, PPLive, Glacier Omnimedia,
Eurosport, and others, were designed with the serious sports fan in mind.
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This sounds really cool. Where do I sign up. I searched and searched but
couldn't find you! Please give us your web address! |
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Somebody.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:14 am Post subject:
Re: At one of our competitors ....... |
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| Quote: | Owl Jolsen wrote:
Anyone reading this could have somone at your workplace, logged onto
Figure Skating Universe, right now, and you would never know what she is
up to, if she just happens to be working in one of your shops. This being
an Olympic season, the real SERIOUS ice skating fans will do ANYTHING to
keep up with the latest results at competitions. This is why at OUR
service,
my engineers are continually develtoping countermeasures for every
measure
that admins try and use to block us. Services like Anonymous Demonic
Media
(our service), Icecalc, Widge-Data, MediaZone, PPLive, Glacier Omnimedia,
Eurosport, and others, were designed with the serious sports fan in mind.
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Hasn't that idiot crawled back under his bridge yet?
-Russ. |
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