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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
Zone Alarm / Router conflict |
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Zone Alarm automatically picks the internet IP range, but the range it
picks occasionally conflicts with the range used by the Westell
wireless router. Specifically, Zone Alarm automatically sets the
internet IP range as 192.168.1.41 - 255.255.255.0. However, the router
often assigns IP addresses at the beginning of this range (such as
192.168.1.41). Putting this address in the trusted IP range does not
help, as then the internet and trusted ranges overlap and it seems that
the internet range dominates. Trying to edit the internet IP range does
not work -- Zone Alarm does not allow it. As a result, the machine
assigned the offending IP address cannot see -- or be seen by -- the
network (though it can ping and be pinged).
So: How can Zone Alarm's internet IP range be manually set or changed? |
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Jim
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:13 am Post subject:
Re: Zone Alarm / Router conflict |
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<cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Zone Alarm automatically picks the internet IP range, but the range it
picks occasionally conflicts with the range used by the Westell
wireless router.
It doesn't do that on my system.
Specifically, Zone Alarm automatically sets the
internet IP range as 192.168.1.41 - 255.255.255.0. However, the router
often assigns IP addresses at the beginning of this range (such as
192.168.1.41).
Zone Alarm, on my system, gets this info from the router.
Putting this address in the trusted IP range does not
help, as then the internet and trusted ranges overlap and it seems that
the internet range dominates.
On my system the trusted zone dominates, as it should.
Trying to edit the internet IP range does
not work -- Zone Alarm does not allow it. As a result, the machine
assigned the offending IP address cannot see -- or be seen by -- the
network (though it can ping and be pinged).
I am able to edit anything I wish by merely clicking the edit tab in the |
lower right hand corner. Doesn't yours work that way?
Computers with addresses in the range 192.168.xxx.xxx are hidden because, by
design, these addresses are not routable. Your router can be pinged, but
your computers with addresses in this range cannot.
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So: How can Zone Alarm's internet IP range be manually set or changed?
Zone Alarm, on my system, has no internet IP range. My router definitely |
does though.
Jim |
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Guest
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:22 am Post subject:
Re: Zone Alarm / Router conflict |
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Thanks for the response. ZA 5.5 is running on 4 networked Windows PCs.
On each one, there is an internet-zone network defined with IP range
192.168.1.41/255.255.255. (I did not create these entries). The name of
this network is the name of the ethernet adapter on each machine. I
have been trying to find out who/what sets that IP range. I cannot edit
this network. If I try to do that, Zone Alarm pops up an error: "You
cannot edit... an Active Adapter Subnet". For DHCP, the router uses the
range 192.168.1.15/192.168.1.47 -- the last 7 addresses of which
overlap the internet network range.
I got to believe that the overlap range was interpreted as "internet"
rather than "trusted" because extending the trusted zone did not
immediately solve the problem. However, it now appears that you are
correct -- and overlap addresses do work on the network. Perhaps it
took a shutdown/restart, or there was some other propagation delay
somewhere. So as of now the problem seems to have gone away. But I am
still curious how that internet zone IP range that starts at
192.168.1.41 was created. Perhaps it's the router that is feeding this
to ZA?
Jim wrote:
| Quote: | cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132112473.768231.316720@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Zone Alarm automatically picks the internet IP range, but the range it
picks occasionally conflicts with the range used by the Westell
wireless router.
It doesn't do that on my system.
Specifically, Zone Alarm automatically sets the
internet IP range as 192.168.1.41 - 255.255.255.0. However, the router
often assigns IP addresses at the beginning of this range (such as
192.168.1.41).
Zone Alarm, on my system, gets this info from the router.
Putting this address in the trusted IP range does not
help, as then the internet and trusted ranges overlap and it seems that
the internet range dominates.
On my system the trusted zone dominates, as it should.
Trying to edit the internet IP range does
not work -- Zone Alarm does not allow it. As a result, the machine
assigned the offending IP address cannot see -- or be seen by -- the
network (though it can ping and be pinged).
I am able to edit anything I wish by merely clicking the edit tab in the
lower right hand corner. Doesn't yours work that way?
Computers with addresses in the range 192.168.xxx.xxx are hidden because, by
design, these addresses are not routable. Your router can be pinged, but
your computers with addresses in this range cannot.
So: How can Zone Alarm's internet IP range be manually set or changed?
Zone Alarm, on my system, has no internet IP range. My router definitely
does though.
Jim |
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Jim
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Zone Alarm / Router conflict |
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<cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132207158.010460.313810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Thanks for the response. ZA 5.5 is running on 4 networked Windows PCs.
On each one, there is an internet-zone network defined with IP range
192.168.1.41/255.255.255. (I did not create these entries). The name of
this network is the name of the ethernet adapter on each machine. I
have been trying to find out who/what sets that IP range. I cannot edit
this network. If I try to do that, Zone Alarm pops up an error: "You
cannot edit... an Active Adapter Subnet". For DHCP, the router uses the
range 192.168.1.15/192.168.1.47 -- the last 7 addresses of which
overlap the internet network range.
I got to believe that the overlap range was interpreted as "internet"
rather than "trusted" because extending the trusted zone did not
immediately solve the problem. However, it now appears that you are
correct -- and overlap addresses do work on the network. Perhaps it
took a shutdown/restart, or there was some other propagation delay
somewhere. So as of now the problem seems to have gone away. But I am
still curious how that internet zone IP range that starts at
192.168.1.41 was created. Perhaps it's the router that is feeding this
to ZA?
Yes, all of the 192.168.x.x addresses should (I say should because there is |
surely an exception somewhere) be assigned by the router. It is odd that
the router starting address is no 192.168.1.1 though.
Jim
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Jim wrote:
cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132112473.768231.316720@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Zone Alarm automatically picks the internet IP range, but the range it
picks occasionally conflicts with the range used by the Westell
wireless router.
It doesn't do that on my system.
Specifically, Zone Alarm automatically sets the
internet IP range as 192.168.1.41 - 255.255.255.0. However, the router
often assigns IP addresses at the beginning of this range (such as
192.168.1.41).
Zone Alarm, on my system, gets this info from the router.
Putting this address in the trusted IP range does not
help, as then the internet and trusted ranges overlap and it seems that
the internet range dominates.
On my system the trusted zone dominates, as it should.
Trying to edit the internet IP range does
not work -- Zone Alarm does not allow it. As a result, the machine
assigned the offending IP address cannot see -- or be seen by -- the
network (though it can ping and be pinged).
I am able to edit anything I wish by merely clicking the edit tab in the
lower right hand corner. Doesn't yours work that way?
Computers with addresses in the range 192.168.xxx.xxx are hidden because,
by
design, these addresses are not routable. Your router can be pinged, but
your computers with addresses in this range cannot.
So: How can Zone Alarm's internet IP range be manually set or changed?
Zone Alarm, on my system, has no internet IP range. My router definitely
does though.
Jim
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Guest
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:14 am Post subject:
Re: Zone Alarm / Router conflict |
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The info on the router DHCP IP range comes from the router manual. That
range can be edited, but I don't want to play with the router if
possible. (This router is distributed by Verizon to all their DSL
customers). For me, the mystery still is -- how is the internet zone
range set in the public network? And why does it include half of the
private range 192.168.xxx.xxx? |
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Woody
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:50 am Post subject:
Re: Zone Alarm / Router conflict |
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It is time for you to start reading the book on the router (you can read
can't you) These were apparently set up by Verizon in the router. Start
dissecting their configuration. ZA doesn't ser anything. Your PC and router
config set it...
<cvt7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The info on the router DHCP IP range comes from the router manual. That
range can be edited, but I don't want to play with the router if
possible. (This router is distributed by Verizon to all their DSL
customers). For me, the mystery still is -- how is the internet zone
range set in the public network? And why does it include half of the
private range 192.168.xxx.xxx?
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Guest
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:09 am Post subject:
Re: Zone Alarm / Router conflict |
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Hey Woody what's your problem. You are suggesting that Verizon is
setting up a public network over a private IP address range and you
think every Verizon customer should read their router manual to figure
this out? And they shouldn't post a question here until they have done
that? Anyway, if Verizon is setting this up the answer is not going to
be in the router manual -- will it? Verizon isn't giving out any tech
details with the package -- none that are in any obvious place anyway.
And how is a Verizon customer supposed to know where to look -- router,
Verizon, or Zone Alarm? Seems to me you have to be an expert before you
can know all that. Chill. |
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