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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:12 am Post subject:
Adelphia's spam filter |
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I subscribe to an innocuous quotations listserv, getting one email per
day. The email messages have a brief text advertisement at the bottom,
but it's only a small part of the message. My listserv messages stopped
a couple of weeks ago, and when I ascertained that the list was still
functioning, I looked for every way I could think of to get into the
spam settings to whitelist it. Not finding any way to do so, I asked
Adelphia tech support for help and was told that there was no way to
approve any particular sender--that if Adelphia decided it was spam I
couldn't change that. I asked them what I should do, then, in order to
get email that I wanted to receive and their only suggestion was that I
get a hotmail account.
This feels like censorship to me. They let all manner of advertising
through to my email but lists that I want I can't get. Has anybody else
come up against this sort of thing? Is there any way to get through to
Adelphia?
Thanks in advance for any ideas...
Barbara |
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$Bill
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Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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justasigh@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | I subscribe to an innocuous quotations listserv, getting one email per
day. The email messages have a brief text advertisement at the bottom,
but it's only a small part of the message. My listserv messages stopped
a couple of weeks ago, and when I ascertained that the list was still
functioning, I looked for every way I could think of to get into the
spam settings to whitelist it. Not finding any way to do so, I asked
Adelphia tech support for help and was told that there was no way to
approve any particular sender--that if Adelphia decided it was spam I
couldn't change that. I asked them what I should do, then, in order to
get email that I wanted to receive and their only suggestion was that I
get a hotmail account.
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What spam settings are you referring to ? There are none on my account
that I know of, so either you have managed to set some or there's something
different about your account.
| Quote: | This feels like censorship to me. They let all manner of advertising
through to my email but lists that I want I can't get. Has anybody else
come up against this sort of thing? Is there any way to get through to
Adelphia?
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I'd just like to know how you determined your email was being blocked by
a spam filter. |
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David H. Lipman
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:29 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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From: <justasigh@yahoo.com>
| I subscribe to an innocuous quotations listserv, getting one email per
| day. The email messages have a brief text advertisement at the bottom,
| but it's only a small part of the message. My listserv messages stopped
| a couple of weeks ago, and when I ascertained that the list was still
| functioning, I looked for every way I could think of to get into the
| spam settings to whitelist it. Not finding any way to do so, I asked
| Adelphia tech support for help and was told that there was no way to
| approve any particular sender--that if Adelphia decided it was spam I
| couldn't change that. I asked them what I should do, then, in order to
| get email that I wanted to receive and their only suggestion was that I
| get a hotmail account.
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| This feels like censorship to me. They let all manner of advertising
| through to my email but lists that I want I can't get. Has anybody else
| come up against this sort of thing? Is there any way to get through to
| Adelphia?
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| Thanks in advance for any ideas...
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| Barbara
Verizon uses Brightmail SpamDetector (now Symantec argh...) and we can go to our account
web page and enable or disable its application to one's email account.
You should determine if Adelphia does likewise.
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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Warren
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Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:11 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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justasigh@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | I subscribe to an innocuous quotations listserv, getting one email per
day. The email messages have a brief text advertisement at the bottom,
but it's only a small part of the message. My listserv messages stopped
a couple of weeks ago, and when I ascertained that the list was still
functioning, I looked for every way I could think of to get into the
spam settings to whitelist it. Not finding any way to do so, I asked
Adelphia tech support for help and was told that there was no way to
approve any particular sender--that if Adelphia decided it was spam I
couldn't change that. I asked them what I should do, then, in order to
get email that I wanted to receive and their only suggestion was that I
get a hotmail account.
This feels like censorship to me. They let all manner of advertising
through to my email but lists that I want I can't get. Has anybody else
come up against this sort of thing? Is there any way to get through to
Adelphia?
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I think they already gave you the best idea of how to deal with it. If you
don't like how they handle e-mail, go elsewhere. There are plenty of free
places to go, or you can get your own domain, and be responsible for your
own filtering.
It's their network. Their servers. They get to run it the way they want to.
Your choice is to use it or not.
--
Warren H.
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Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
This fall, vacuum up your leaves instead of raking:
http://www.holzemville.com/mall/blackanddecker/blowers.html |
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$Bill
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:36 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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Warren wrote:
| Quote: | I think they already gave you the best idea of how to deal with it. If you
don't like how they handle e-mail, go elsewhere. There are plenty of free
places to go, or you can get your own domain, and be responsible for your
own filtering.
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If you have an ISP, the easiest way to get your mail is through the email
address(es) supplied by your ISP and to forward any other email addresses
to that address. The ISP shouldn't be dicking with your email without
giving you total control of the dicking with.
| Quote: | It's their network. Their servers. They get to run it the way they want to.
Your choice is to use it or not.
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That's crap. I'm on Adelphia and to the best of my knowledge, there are
no SPAM filters and if there were, there damn well better be a way to
turn them off. I might buy some *outgoing* SPAM filters being a necessity,
but not incoming - that should be controlled by the user (hopefully with
some optional, free and easily accessible tools by the ISP). |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:31 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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I asked the Adelphia tech support. The listserv was working perfectly,
I can get it on a free email account and the tech support stated
clearly that they decide what's spam and won't change it for you. |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:03 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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Unfortunately, they have spam filters that work behind the scene. And
no, there are no way to control the settings--I looked for a way
because I'd thought that when I first signed up with Adelphia they had
a way to "whitelist" email addresses, but no longer. I verified all of
this with their technical support--they decide what's spam and your
only option is to get a hotmail account, according to them. I just
really feel that this is meddling with my email unfairly.
Unfortunately, once again, I have no other options for broadband in my
area. |
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James Knott
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Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:44 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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justasigh@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Unfortunately, they have spam filters that work behind the scene. And
no, there are no way to control the settings--I looked for a way
because I'd thought that when I first signed up with Adelphia they had
a way to "whitelist" email addresses, but no longer. I verified all of
this with their technical support--they decide what's spam and your
only option is to get a hotmail account, according to them. I just
really feel that this is meddling with my email unfairly.
Unfortunately, once again, I have no other options for broadband in my
area.
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What you may try, is getting another pop mail box somewhere, such as gmail
or myrealbox.com (I don't know if they're still accepting new users) and
configuring your mail client to receive mail from there too. |
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Bill M.
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Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:46 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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On 10 Nov 2005 15:03:45 -0800, justasigh@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Unfortunately, they have spam filters that work behind the scene. And
no, there are no way to control the settings--I looked for a way
because I'd thought that when I first signed up with Adelphia they had
a way to "whitelist" email addresses, but no longer. I verified all of
this with their technical support--they decide what's spam and your
only option is to get a hotmail account, according to them. I just
really feel that this is meddling with my email unfairly.
Unfortunately, once again, I have no other options for broadband in my
area.
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As others have pointed out, you're not limited to getting email via
your ISP. There are scads of free and paid email options available.
--
Bill |
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$Bill
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Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:19 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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justasigh@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Unfortunately, they have spam filters that work behind the scene. And
no, there are no way to control the settings--I looked for a way
because I'd thought that when I first signed up with Adelphia they had
a way to "whitelist" email addresses, but no longer. I verified all of
this with their technical support--they decide what's spam and your
only option is to get a hotmail account, according to them. I just
really feel that this is meddling with my email unfairly.
Unfortunately, once again, I have no other options for broadband in my
area.
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This may help - there are some controls. Go to mail page.
Click on Settings -> Parental Controls and/or
Click on Settings -> Message Filters
Make sure they're all off (or set to your preference).
Here's some of the junk mail page (unformatted) :
Junk Mail Automatically delete or file junk mail before it reaches your Inbox.
Don't filter Junk Mail
Delete incoming Junk Mail
Place in Junk Mail folder for each Submailbox
Allowed Senders and Domains Enter allowed email addresses and domains below. Place each email address or domain on a new line.
Blocked Senders and Domains Enter blocked email addresses and domains below. Place each email address or domain on a new line.
Blocked Mail Actions Delete mail from blocked senders
Forward blocked mail to the Head of Household
Place messages in:
Create new folder:
Other Mail This setting determines what happens to messages from senders that are neither Allowed nor Blocked.
Deliver all other mail
Delete all other mail |
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$Bill
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:20 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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David H. Lipman wrote:
| Quote: | I figured there /*must*/ be some form of user controlled settings !
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Doesn't explain why I'm missing eBay and PayPal forwards from my
domain server to my Adelphia email account. Maybe I should
accumulate them on my domain and POP3 them back instead of forwarding. |
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David H. Lipman
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Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:20 am Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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From: "$Bill" <news@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
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| This may help - there are some controls. Go to mail page.
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| Click on Settings -> Parental Controls and/or
| Click on Settings -> Message Filters
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| Make sure they're all off (or set to your preference).
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| Here's some of the junk mail page (unformatted) :
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| Junk Mail Automatically delete or file junk mail before it reaches your Inbox.
| Don't filter Junk Mail
| Delete incoming Junk Mail
| Place in Junk Mail folder for each Submailbox
| Allowed Senders and Domains Enter allowed email addresses and domains below. Place each
| email address or domain on a new line. Blocked Senders and Domains Enter blocked email
| addresses and domains below. Place each email address or domain on a new line. Blocked
| Mail Actions Delete mail from blocked senders Forward blocked mail to the Head of
| Household
| Place messages in:
| Create new folder:
| Other Mail This setting determines what happens to messages from senders that are neither
| Allowed nor Blocked. Deliver all other mail
| Delete all other mail
I figured there /*must*/ be some form of user controlled settings !
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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David H. Lipman
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Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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From: "$Bill" <news@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
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| I'm getting the phish posts, it's the legit posts I'm missing.
| Like the "You made a payment' from PayPal and the 'Your question on auction xyz'
| posts, etc. I actually get the response from the eBay questions and not the
| question itself. :(
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You know there is something wrong with their system when the spam and phishing email get
through but the legitimate email doesn't !!
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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James Knott
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Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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$Bill wrote:
| Quote: | I figured there must be some form of user controlled settings !
Doesn't explain why I'm missing eBay and PayPal forwards from my
domain server to my Adelphia email account. Maybe I should
accumulate them on my domain and POP3 them back instead of forwarding.
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If you're not getting your phony eBay and PayPal messages, I'd be happy to
give you some of mine. ;-) |
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$Bill
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Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Adelphia's spam filter |
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James Knott wrote:
| Quote: | $Bill wrote:
I figured there must be some form of user controlled settings !
Doesn't explain why I'm missing eBay and PayPal forwards from my
domain server to my Adelphia email account. Maybe I should
accumulate them on my domain and POP3 them back instead of forwarding.
If you're not getting your phony eBay and PayPal messages, I'd be happy to
give you some of mine. ;-)
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I'm getting the phish posts, it's the legit posts I'm missing.
Like the "You made a payment' from PayPal and the 'Your question on auction xyz'
posts, etc. I actually get the response from the eBay questions and not the
question itself. :( |
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