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Cuseeme

Postby John » Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:49 pm

Is Cuseeme Dead? Any live/active reflectors left?

Thanks
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Re: Cuseeme

Postby Brian Sullivan MVP » Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:07 am

John wrote:
Is Cuseeme Dead? Any live/active reflectors left?

Thanks

I haven't seen much about it since White Pine disappeared/was broken up but
I think it still around in some form.

Some of the following links:

http://www.cuseeme.org/
http://www.cuworld.com/

might be a place to start.

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Re: Cuseeme

Postby Neil Smith [MVP Digital M » Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:36 am

Yes, but the reflector community seems to be declining gradually over
the last year or two. I still visit 2-3 reflectors occasionally to
catch up with people.

You can grab ERef refelector software http://www.plinth.demon.co.uk/
if you're interested in setting up your own ;-) It's available for
Win32 (2000,XP), Linux, Solaris or Mac OSX

Part of the problem was that cuseemeworld pulled their reflector based
operations and moved to a java (I think) client which ran in the
browser, based mostly on the cuweb client. The overall experience
turned out to be rubbish, and I think that a lot of the regulars left
for other sites.

Then they pulled their website too (I tried to buy the domain but it
got squatted by some asshole popup / web "search" merchants)

A few newer systems seem to be taking up the slack, most notably
Jmeeting which is currently in active development. It looks like a few
more months of donations might see a Mac OSX client too.

On a good day you'll see up to 450 punters online. It's based on IRC
with a video overlay (run through a java applet in the browser), or
you can get standalone client for about a $25 donation.

HTH
Cheers - Neil

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:49:08 -0400, "John"
<jwh_fla(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote:

Is Cuseeme Dead? Any live/active reflectors left?

Thanks
Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
 

Re: Cuseeme

Postby macfreak2004 » Fri May 13, 2005 6:23 pm

Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
*
You can grab ERef refelector software http://www.plinth.demon.co.uk/
[/vbcol] *

hi all,

did somebody get it working on osx?
i found this here :
http://www.linc.or.jp/~hamano/PMRef.html

i have setup a testreflector


Code:
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IP 207.44.156.3 CID 0 Max Send.14 / Max Rec.40
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old clients are here
http://www.inforoots.org:8080/internet/cuseeme/ my favorite osx client
is here.

http://vchat.cu-seeme.org/download.html

cheers:eek

get all the info here
http://www.cuseeme.de/
questions ?

marc
aim:macfreak2004



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Re: Cuseeme

Postby Neil Smith [MVP Digital M » Sat May 14, 2005 9:36 am

On Fri, 13 May 2005 13:23:28 -0500, macfreak2004
<macfreak2004.1ozw00@mail.mcse.ms> wrote:

Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
*
You can grab ERef refelector software http://www.plinth.demon.co.uk/
[/vbcol] *

hi all,

did somebody get it working on osx?
i found this here :
http://www.linc.or.jp/~hamano/PMRef.html

Thanks for the post ! Good news ;-)

i have setup a testreflector

Cool.

Code:
--------------------
IP 207.44.156.3 CID 0 Max Send.14 / Max Rec.40
--------------------

old clients are here
http://www.inforoots.org:8080/internet/cuseeme/ my favorite osx client
is here.

http://vchat.cu-seeme.org/download.html

cheers:eek

get all the info here
http://www.cuseeme.de/
questions ?

marc
aim:macfreak2004

Yeah, in addition, Jmeeting is likely to have a mac client available
in 30 days (www.jmeeting.com) and there's already Ashcast for Mac OSX
which works as-is. So given that the use of cuseeme is tailing off
rather strongly, you might want to consider these as future options
for videochat clients.

As Jmeeting is a java client, it's cross platform. Admittedly the
refresh rate is somewhere about 0.25-1fps so far but I anticipate
future improvements will get made to bring that more in line with
Cuseeme's capabilities - and I understand voice is in the pipeline.

Cheers - Neil
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re:Cuseeme

Postby Ashtar » Thu May 19, 2005 5:13 am

Ofcourse I'm hardly impartial in this (being the author of Ashcast), but actually framerates in the latest version of Ashcast are more around 2-4 fps with a theoretical limit of 10fps (never actually managed that though).

Personally I' m a bit sceptical about JMeeting actually delivering a working Mac OSX client within 30 days, but I guess time will tell.

The thing about JMeeting is that it's still very much a closed community, since you cannot run your own servers. Also: to broadcast on Mac and Linux you need to be a paying member, since Ashcast is not available to free members.

They only get the web-applet, which only supports broadcasting on Windows.

I have been thinking about expanding the underlying technology beyond the scope of JMeeting, to create a fully cross-platform video broadcasting service, but these plans are still somewhat sketchy.
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Re: Cuseeme

Postby Neil Smith [MVP Digital M » Fri May 20, 2005 1:10 am

On Thu, 19 May 2005 11:23:39 -0500,
ashtar@ashcast-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (Ashtar) wrote:

Ofcourse I'm hardly impartial in this (being the author of Ashcast),
but actually framerates in the latest version of Ashcast are more
around 2-4 fps with a theoretical limit of 10fps (never actually
managed that though).

O wow then Hi Ash, hows it goin ? ;-))

Personally I' m a bit sceptical about JMeeting actually delivering a
working Mac OSX client within 30 days, but I guess time will tell.

<cough /> "me too"

The thing about JMeeting is that it's still very much a closed
community, since you cannot run your own servers. Also: to broadcast
on Mac and Linux you need to be a paying member, since Ashcast is not
available to free members.

** Although it is advertised regularly by a prominent red-headed dutch
member of jmeeting <g>

They only get the web-applet, which only supports broadcasting on
Windows.

The standalone jmeeting doesn't rely on the "applet" if I understand
the way you write this, which is to refer to a java applet used in a
web page. Standalone comsumes about 40% less memory than using the
browser-based java client, which is an important advantage.

I have been thinking about expanding the underlying technology beyond
the scope of JMeeting, to create a fully cross-platform video
broadcasting service, but these plans are still somewhat sketchy.

Please, do - I'm sure there will be many people looking forward to a
cross platform, multiple-video chat client ;-))

Cheers - Neil
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Re: Cuseeme is apple now

Postby cuseeme » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:02 am

Please, do - I'm sure there will be many people looking forward to a
cross platform, multiple-video chat client ;-))

Cheers - Neil
:lol:

we are looking forward to meet you guys

:D

marc

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re:Cuseeme

Postby Ashtar » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:07 am

Well, I'd like to hear your thoughts about a good approach to video multicasting in Java... Providing a one-on-one video link is usually relatively simple, but matters get a lot more complex when you have to provide the same stream to a number of users concurrently...

Which technology would be worth looking into?

On a side note: I think the 30 days are up... no Mac broadcasting yet... :roll:
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Re: Cuseeme

Postby Neil Smith [MVP Digital M » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:28 pm

On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:21:37 -0500,
ashtar@ashcast-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (Ashtar) wrote:

Well, I'd like to hear your thoughts about a good approach to video
multicasting in Java... Providing a one-on-one video link is usually
relatively simple, but matters get a lot more complex when you have
to provide the same stream to a number of users concurrently...

Which technology would be worth looking into?

I dunno - leaving latency issues aside, is the torrent tech adaptable
so you can pass video streams between several people ? There's always
some latency with JM so I guess it wouldn't be excessively noticeable
at low framerates ...

On a side note: I think the 30 days are up... no Mac broadcasting
yet... :roll:

Everybody's entitled to have a life ;-)

I've been working on a live broadcast audio, video & webcam site since
April on and off ! Unfortunately due to a range of hangover types, and
the festival season starting here, it's going to take rather longer
than I expected !

Cheers - Neil
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Re: Cuseeme

Postby cuseeme » Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:49 am

Neil Smith [MVP Digital M wrote:On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:21:37
Everybody's entitled to have a life ;-)


i think the problem is more that most off the people
spend there live on the wrong technologie , because they are too young .:lol:

cheers

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