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John
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Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:49 am Post subject:
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Is Cuseeme Dead? Any live/active reflectors left?
Thanks |
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject:
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Yes, but the reflector community seems to be declining gradually over
the last year or two. I still visit 2-3 reflectors occasionally to
catch up with people.
You can grab ERef refelector software http://www.plinth.demon.co.uk/
if you're interested in setting up your own ;-) It's available for
Win32 (2000,XP), Linux, Solaris or Mac OSX
Part of the problem was that cuseemeworld pulled their reflector based
operations and moved to a java (I think) client which ran in the
browser, based mostly on the cuweb client. The overall experience
turned out to be rubbish, and I think that a lot of the regulars left
for other sites.
Then they pulled their website too (I tried to buy the domain but it
got squatted by some asshole popup / web "search" merchants)
A few newer systems seem to be taking up the slack, most notably
Jmeeting which is currently in active development. It looks like a few
more months of donations might see a Mac OSX client too.
On a good day you'll see up to 450 punters online. It's based on IRC
with a video overlay (run through a java applet in the browser), or
you can get standalone client for about a $25 donation.
HTH
Cheers - Neil
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:49:08 -0400, "John"
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| Quote: | Is Cuseeme Dead? Any live/active reflectors left?
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macfreak2004
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Sat May 14, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject:
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On Fri, 13 May 2005 13:23:28 -0500, macfreak2004
<macfreak2004.1ozw00@mail.mcse.ms> wrote:
Thanks for the post ! Good news ;-)
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Cool.
Yeah, in addition, Jmeeting is likely to have a mac client available
in 30 days (www.jmeeting.com) and there's already Ashcast for Mac OSX
which works as-is. So given that the use of cuseeme is tailing off
rather strongly, you might want to consider these as future options
for videochat clients.
As Jmeeting is a java client, it's cross platform. Admittedly the
refresh rate is somewhere about 0.25-1fps so far but I anticipate
future improvements will get made to bring that more in line with
Cuseeme's capabilities - and I understand voice is in the pipeline.
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Ashtar
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Thu May 19, 2005 10:13 am Post subject:
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Ofcourse I'm hardly impartial in this (being the author of Ashcast), but actually framerates in the latest version of Ashcast are more around 2-4 fps with a theoretical limit of 10fps (never actually managed that though).
Personally I' m a bit sceptical about JMeeting actually delivering a working Mac OSX client within 30 days, but I guess time will tell.
The thing about JMeeting is that it's still very much a closed community, since you cannot run your own servers. Also: to broadcast on Mac and Linux you need to be a paying member, since Ashcast is not available to free members.
They only get the web-applet, which only supports broadcasting on Windows.
I have been thinking about expanding the underlying technology beyond the scope of JMeeting, to create a fully cross-platform video broadcasting service, but these plans are still somewhat sketchy.
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Fri May 20, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 11:23:39 -0500,
ashtar@ashcast-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (Ashtar) wrote:
| Quote: | Ofcourse I'm hardly impartial in this (being the author of Ashcast),
but actually framerates in the latest version of Ashcast are more
around 2-4 fps with a theoretical limit of 10fps (never actually
managed that though).
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O wow then Hi Ash, hows it goin ? ;-))
| Quote: | Personally I' m a bit sceptical about JMeeting actually delivering a
working Mac OSX client within 30 days, but I guess time will tell.
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<cough /> "me too"
| Quote: | The thing about JMeeting is that it's still very much a closed
community, since you cannot run your own servers. Also: to broadcast
on Mac and Linux you need to be a paying member, since Ashcast is not
available to free members.
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** Although it is advertised regularly by a prominent red-headed dutch
member of jmeeting <g>
| Quote: | They only get the web-applet, which only supports broadcasting on
Windows.
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The standalone jmeeting doesn't rely on the "applet" if I understand
the way you write this, which is to refer to a java applet used in a
web page. Standalone comsumes about 40% less memory than using the
browser-based java client, which is an important advantage.
| Quote: | I have been thinking about expanding the underlying technology beyond
the scope of JMeeting, to create a fully cross-platform video
broadcasting service, but these plans are still somewhat sketchy.
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Please, do - I'm sure there will be many people looking forward to a
cross platform, multiple-video chat client ;-))
Cheers - Neil |
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cuseeme
Joined: 01 Jul 2005
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Location: earth
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject:
Re: Cuseeme is apple now |
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Please, do - I'm sure there will be many people looking forward to a
cross platform, multiple-video chat client  )
Cheers - Neil |
we are looking forward to meet you guys
marc
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Ashtar
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject:
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Well, I'd like to hear your thoughts about a good approach to video multicasting in Java... Providing a one-on-one video link is usually relatively simple, but matters get a lot more complex when you have to provide the same stream to a number of users concurrently...
Which technology would be worth looking into?
On a side note: I think the 30 days are up... no Mac broadcasting yet... 
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject:
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On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:21:37 -0500,
ashtar@ashcast-dot-org.no-spam.invalid (Ashtar) wrote:
| Quote: | Well, I'd like to hear your thoughts about a good approach to video
multicasting in Java... Providing a one-on-one video link is usually
relatively simple, but matters get a lot more complex when you have
to provide the same stream to a number of users concurrently...
Which technology would be worth looking into?
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I dunno - leaving latency issues aside, is the torrent tech adaptable
so you can pass video streams between several people ? There's always
some latency with JM so I guess it wouldn't be excessively noticeable
at low framerates ...
| Quote: | On a side note: I think the 30 days are up... no Mac broadcasting
yet... :roll:
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Everybody's entitled to have a life ;-)
I've been working on a live broadcast audio, video & webcam site since
April on and off ! Unfortunately due to a range of hangover types, and
the festival season starting here, it's going to take rather longer
than I expected !
Cheers - Neil |
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cuseeme
Joined: 01 Jul 2005
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject:
Re: Cuseeme |
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| Neil Smith [MVP Digital M wrote: | On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:21:37
Everybody's entitled to have a life
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i think the problem is more that most off the people
spend there live on the wrong technologie , because they are too young .
cheers
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