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GS
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: How can I access my Router which is on private ip address fr Reply with quote

How can I access my Router (one of the Linux machine connected to
Router) which is on private ip address from ISP?. This ISP is giving
ethernet service to home and they assigns private static ip address for
each connection, how can I access that router, which is using private
ip addr for wan port. I know the ip address of ISP's router. Thanks.
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riggor99999
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

Can you clarify what exactly you are trying to do? Are you trying to access
the internal admin web page of the router from one of the PC's behind the
router?

What kind of router is it? Was it supplied by your ISP? Typically - the
router (WAN) get's it's TCP/IP address via DHCP from the cable / dsl modem,
and the PC's behind the router (LAN) get their addresses via DHCP from the
router. For a Linksys router - for example - it's default address is
http://192.168.1.1 ... when trying to access it from within your network.

It's surprising that you say your ISP is providing static provate IP
addresses via the router...

"GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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How can I access my Router (one of the Linux machine connected to
Router) which is on private ip address from ISP?. This ISP is giving
ethernet service to home and they assigns private static ip address for
each connection, how can I access that router, which is using private
ip addr for wan port. I know the ip address of ISP's router. Thanks.
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GS
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

Well, this ISP gives static ip addr (private ip addr) for WAN port,
since I need to connect two PC to internet. both are Linux machines.
but my WAN ip addr is private ip addr, I need to access my both
machines from work, also I need to access my Router from work. If my
WAN ip addr is public, then I can directly login to Router, also I can
do port redirection to my Linux PC's, in this private IP addr case, how
can I access my Linux machines?. Thanks.
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GS
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

Sorry, this Router is not supplied by ISP, this is regular Netgear
Router.
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Gary
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:31 am    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

"GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Sorry, this Router is not supplied by ISP, this is regular Netgear
Router.

If your ISP is really providing a private IP address for your router, then
you cannot create a connection to your router unless your ISP supports it.
You'll need your ISP to setup something like a port map in their network
just for you.

-Gary
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Robert Nichols
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

In article <1130605569.596597.132880@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
GS <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote:
:Well, this ISP gives static ip addr (private ip addr) for WAN port,
:since I need to connect two PC to internet. both are Linux machines.
:but my WAN ip addr is private ip addr, I need to access my both
:machines from work, also I need to access my Router from work. If my
:WAN ip addr is public, then I can directly login to Router, also I can
:do port redirection to my Linux PC's, in this private IP addr case, how
:can I access my Linux machines?. Thanks.

If you are talking about the setup you used to post the above message,
then it appears that you have a perfectly normal public IP address
(NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.192.220.199, which translates back to
ool-44c0dcc7.dyn.optonline.net) and any "private" IP address you are
seeing is most likely being assigned by your router. To access your
Linux machines from the WAN you just need to set up port forwarding in
your router.

--
Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "RNichols42"
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GS
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

This is on one side, otherside it it was using private ip addr from
ISP, I need to link these two. Do you have any idea?. Thanks
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Robert L. Haar
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

On 2005/10/31 6:40 PM, "GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
This is on one side, otherside it it was using private ip addr from
ISP,

Not exactly. The IP address on the external interface (WAN) is assigned by
your ISP. The internal, private address is typically assigned by the router
itself. Most consumer grade routers use a technique called Network Address
Translation (NAT) the translates a single external address to a variable
number on private addresses that are used only within your local network.
That is the "private" part.

Quote:
I need to link these two. Do you have any idea?. Thanks


There are several possibilities.

You could turn off the NAT function entirely. In this configuration, the
router is really acting as a switch. You would need to have your ISP assign
IP addresses for every computer in your house. Most will do this for an
extra fee. It also losses the protection that the NAT isolation provides.

You could also turn on port forwarding where specific ports are passed
through the router to one of your internal machines. That can be useful if
you want to access a service such as a web server, but you will need to
determine what ports to forward and understand how to configure your router.

Third, you might be able to put one computer into a DMZ configuration. This
means that the computer is connected through the router but is exposed to
the WAN.
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GS
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

Robert,

Here, I don't have any problem for accessing net using private ip addr
on WAN port, since my LAN subnet addr is different from what WAN port
ip addr is using. for example: my wan port is using 192.168.25.234 as
ip and 192.168.25.1 as gateway and my LAN is using 192.168.1.2, .3, ...
as ip addr for computers and 192.168.1.1 as gateway, this way all of my
LAN PC have e-mail access.

Now if I want to access any of my LAN PC from outside (from diff place,
I would like to do ssh into my LAN), ISP has to do port forwarding
right?. Otherthan port forwarding, can't I access any of local PC's
using any freely available VPN solutions.

Thanks
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Gary
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

"GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

Here, I don't have any problem for accessing net using private ip addr
on WAN port, since my LAN subnet addr is different from what WAN port
ip addr is using. for example: my wan port is using 192.168.25.234 as
ip and 192.168.25.1 as gateway and my LAN is using 192.168.1.2, .3, ...
as ip addr for computers and 192.168.1.1 as gateway, this way all of my
LAN PC have e-mail access.

Now if I want to access any of my LAN PC from outside (from diff place,
I would like to do ssh into my LAN), ISP has to do port forwarding
right?. Otherthan port forwarding, can't I access any of local PC's
using any freely available VPN solutions.

You appear to understand the issue. With a Private IP address on the WAN
port, this means your ISP is running a private network. Any links between
the private network and the public network are completely under your ISP's
control. You cannot configure anything on your equipment to solve your
problem. You have to ask your ISP to help. Whether or not they will help
you depends on the contract you have with them.

-Gary
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Robert L. Haar
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

On 2005/11/1 6:59 AM, "GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Now if I want to access any of my LAN PC from outside (from diff place,
I would like to do ssh into my LAN), ISP has to do port forwarding
right?.

The port forwarding would happen on your router and would not require the
ISP to do anything. Read your router manual for more information on how to
do this, but you will need to know what ports are used by whatever service
you want to run.

Quote:
Other than port forwarding, can't I access any of local PC's
using any freely available VPN solutions.

No, you still have the same issue unless you establish the VPN connection
from inside your private network, that is, your home computer connecting to
the remote one, rather than the other way around.

Does you ISP allow you to run a server? Many prohibit it and take steps to
block common servers, blocking incoming web traffic or anything that looks
like an email server.
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GS
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

Robert L. Haar wrote:
Quote:
On 2005/11/1 6:59 AM, "GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now if I want to access any of my LAN PC from outside (from diff place,
I would like to do ssh into my LAN), ISP has to do port forwarding
right?.

The port forwarding would happen on your router and would not require the
ISP to do anything. Read your router manual for more information on how to
do this, but you will need to know what ports are used by whatever service
you want to run.



Robert,

I can turnon port forwarding on my local router no problem, how can I
access that Router from outside since Router's WAN ip address is
private ip address, to access that Router, I have to my ISP to do port
forwarding right?. Without ISP involvement, can I do that?.

Thanks.
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Gary
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: How can I access my Router which is on private ip addres Reply with quote

"GS" <globalswamy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130958145.589627.259950@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:

I can turnon port forwarding on my local router no problem, how can I
access that Router from outside since Router's WAN ip address is
private ip address, to access that Router, I have to my ISP to do port
forwarding right?. Without ISP involvement, can I do that?.

No.

As I've said three times now, given the information you've shared, you can't
do what you want without your ISP's involvement. If you haven't contacted
them yet, now is the time to do so.

-Gary
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