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Lucas Tam
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:54 am Post subject:
Equipment Thoughts? Dlink vs. Netgear vs. Cisco vs. 3Com |
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Hello all,
I am interested in purchasing a Dlink DES-3526 Managed switch for our
network, but some people in my organization is afraid that DLink = low
quality.
Is this the case?
We will only have a couple of servers running off the switch.
Couple other alternatives:
Cisco (too expensive, overkill for us)
3Com (Are they still good???)
Netcode (never heard of them)
So what do you guys think about DLink and Netgear managed switches for a
small server rack?
Thanks!
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David Ross
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject:
Re: Equipment Thoughts? Dlink vs. Netgear vs. Cisco vs. 3Com |
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| Quote: | I am interested in purchasing a Dlink DES-3526 Managed switch for our
network, but some people in my organization is afraid that DLink = low
quality.
Is this the case?
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The stuff you buy retail ..., well I'll not put it into business use.
And will stay away of possible for any other use. I've had to toss too
much of it in the trash. |
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Lucas Tam
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Equipment Thoughts? Dlink vs. Netgear vs. Cisco vs. 3Com |
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David Ross <news11@raleighthings.com> wrote in news:P8mdnUupjYQii8veRVn-
pg@portbridge.com:
| Quote: | I am interested in purchasing a Dlink DES-3526 Managed switch for our
network, but some people in my organization is afraid that DLink = low
quality.
Is this the case?
The stuff you buy retail ..., well I'll not put it into business use.
And will stay away of possible for any other use. I've had to toss too
much of it in the trash.
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What was wrong with the DLink switch? Was it unrealible? Did it fail? We're
only using it as a 24-Port switch + VLAN.
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Lucas Tam (REMOVEnntp@rogers.com)
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Lucas Tam
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Equipment Thoughts? Dlink vs. Netgear vs. Cisco vs. 3Com |
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David Ross <news11@raleighthings.com> wrote in news:P8mdnUupjYQii8veRVn-
pg@portbridge.com:
| Quote: | I am interested in purchasing a Dlink DES-3526 Managed switch for our
network, but some people in my organization is afraid that DLink = low
quality.
Is this the case?
The stuff you buy retail ..., well I'll not put it into business use.
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And also, the DES-3526 is not a retail switch, it's part of DLink's
business offerings - they start at 499.00 MSRP and seem to have comparable
features as a similar 3COM 2816 SFP Managed Switch.
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Lucas Tam (REMOVEnntp@rogers.com)
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Robert Redelmeier
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Equipment Thoughts? Dlink vs. Netgear vs. Cisco vs. 3Com |
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David Ross <news11@raleighthings.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The RETAIL stuff is low quality in my opinion. It locks
up, fails, quits working, etc... way way way too often. But
apparently you're talking about a higher grade line. I hope they
come from different companies operating under the same brand.
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"way way way too often" is a value judgement. It depends on
the cost/consequences of failure and who pays for remediation.
Personally, my experience with SoHo/consumer level equipment
has been acceptable. Not stellar but nor is Crisco.
-- Robert |
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David Ross
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Equipment Thoughts? Dlink vs. Netgear vs. Cisco vs. 3Com |
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| Quote: | I am interested in purchasing a Dlink DES-3526 Managed switch for our
network, but some people in my organization is afraid that DLink = low
quality.
Is this the case?
The stuff you buy retail ..., well I'll not put it into business use.
And will stay away of possible for any other use. I've had to toss too
much of it in the trash.
What was wrong with the DLink switch? Was it unrealible? Did it fail? We're
only using it as a 24-Port switch + VLAN.
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The RETAIL stuff is low quality in my opinion. It locks up, fails, quits
working, etc... way way way too often. But apparently you're talking
about a higher grade line. I hope they come from different companies
operating under the same brand. |
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Walter Roberson
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject:
Re: Equipment Thoughts? Dlink vs. Netgear vs. Cisco vs. 3Com |
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In article <Xns96F45DEDEC539nntprogerscom@127.0.0.1>,
Lucas Tam <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote:
:And also, the DES-3526 is not a retail switch, it's part of DLink's
:business offerings
Experiences differ. We had experience with a top of the line "business"
switch from one of the "consumer" companies you list, and it was
miserable... it worked superficially, but when we put it on the lab
bench for testing and started trying to configure some of the basic
features, the evidence we found was of significant errors at relatively
low loads, and we weren't able to get it configured to test the
main feature we had purchased for. It then cost me more time to
go through and re-test and document the problems than we saved by
not going with a higher end switch.
One of the other regulars here tested the same model line, loved it
at first, and within a couple of months was loathing it.
As one of the posters said, it depends on the consequences of
failures (and bugs and bad feature design and error rates). We have
some very inexpensive switches within our LAN that I see no evidence
of error with... but those are in tertiary roles, and I wouldn't use
them for our wiring closets.
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Torbjorn Lindgren
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject:
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Lucas Tam <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I am interested in purchasing a Dlink DES-3526 Managed switch for our
network, but some people in my organization is afraid that DLink = low
quality.
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As others have remarked this is from their "business line", and might
be better than their normal consumer level stuff (which usually isn't
so bad, as long as you don't push hard...).
| Quote: | Is this the case?
We will only have a couple of servers running off the switch.
Couple other alternatives:
Cisco (too expensive, overkill for us)
3Com (Are they still good???)
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3Com? My personal experience of their switches is "avoid at all cost",
but that was a number of years ago.
| Quote: | Netcode (never heard of them)
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Google doesn't seem find much either. Possibly an OEM, there are a
couple of switches of this type that is sold by a large variety of
different OEM's.
HP Procurve 2626 is an obvious alternative, it's a bit more expensive
though but nowhere close to Cisco level. HP operates with a "lifetime
warranty for original purchaser" on their switches, this includes
advance replacement.
D-Link calls their warranty "limited lifetime warranty", it starts out
the same but then they add a host of limitations which significantly
reduces it (US only, power supply/fan 3 year, spare parts/spare kits
90 days, and everything expires 5 year after they've discontinued the
product). They don't do advance replacement either, so you need to
send in the unit, wait for them to fix and then send it back to you
(sometimes means that you'll need to buy a replacement to use while
claiming the warranty).
3Com seems to have similar warranty terms to D-Link, while Cisco
apparently doesn't want to divulge them on their Web pages :-)
http://www.hp.com/rnd/products/switches/switch2600series/overview.htm |
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Walter Roberson
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:16 am Post subject:
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In article <MPG.1dc0aa51f60da5c09896c3@192.168.42.131>,
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee <SpammersAreVermin@dev.null> wrote:
:Netgear, on the other wing, is IMO a much
:better bet. They're a division of Bay Networks/Nortel Networks,
No they aren't. They spun off several years ago, and Netgear bought
out Nortel's interest. According to Netgear, Nortel does not
own any of Netgear anymore.
:and I've
:yet to see a bad product from their line of goodies.
I have read postings from people who have had substantial
difficulties with Netgear devices in their particular situations.
Milage varies. Considerably.
:> Cisco (too expensive, overkill for us)
: And, being the 'Microsoft' of the network world, they will nickel-
:and-dime you to death.
Your view braces and challenges us all.
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Lucas Tam
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:50 am Post subject:
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Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> wrote in news:d0w5f.303715$xD1.51371
@fe01.news.easynews.com:
| Quote: | HP Procurve 2626 is an obvious alternative, it's a bit more expensive
though but nowhere close to Cisco level. HP operates with a "lifetime
warranty for original purchaser" on their switches, this includes
advance replacement.
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The 2626 looks really good! Thanks for the info.
Surprisingly Netgears FSM726 came in a close second on a review posted on
HPs website... and that was another switch we were looking at.
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Dr. Anton T. Squeegee
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:09 am Post subject:
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In article <Xns96F3A1D096211nntprogerscom@127.0.0.1>,
REMOVEnntp@rogers.com says...
| Quote: | Hello all,
I am interested in purchasing a Dlink DES-3526 Managed switch for our
network, but some people in my organization is afraid that DLink = low
quality.
Is this the case?
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In my experience: Yes. I had one of their WAPs fail on me in less
than a year, and another one that I bought later on couldn't hold a
consistent connection.
I would avoid D-Link. Netgear, on the other wing, is IMO a much
better bet. They're a division of Bay Networks/Nortel Networks, and I've
yet to see a bad product from their line of goodies.
| Quote: | Cisco (too expensive, overkill for us)
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And, being the 'Microsoft' of the network world, they will nickel-
and-dime you to death.
| Quote: | 3Com (Are they still good???)
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Their higher-end stuff seems pretty good. Haven't had too many
problems with their NICs either.
| Quote: | Netcode (never heard of them)
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Same here. Lord only knows who they are.
| Quote: | So what do you guys think about DLink and Netgear managed switches for a
small server rack?
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If those are your only choices, stick with Netgear.
Keep the peace(es).
--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
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Bob Vaughan
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:00 am Post subject:
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In article <Xns96F3A1D096211nntprogerscom@127.0.0.1>,
Lucas Tam <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hello all,
I am interested in purchasing a Dlink DES-3526 Managed switch for our
network, but some people in my organization is afraid that DLink = low
quality.
Is this the case?
We will only have a couple of servers running off the switch.
Couple other alternatives:
Cisco (too expensive, overkill for us)
3Com (Are they still good???)
Netcode (never heard of them)
ditto.
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Have you looked at Asante? I've heard good things about their
IntraCore series, and the 3524's are in the $400-500 range.
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