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Bob
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: PPTP VPN Startup Connect |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:08:04 +0200, Martin Bodenstedt
<martin.bodenstedt@gmx.de> wrote:
| Quote: | There is a checkbox in the setup that asks if you want the Internet
connection to come from the remote (as it would if it were an ISP) or
from your machine. I told it my machine, so my machine gets its
Internet connectivity from my Internet connection, not the remote one.
Please don't forget that doing it your way not only opens your PC to the
internet but also the remote one.
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What do you mean by "opens your PC to the
internet"? My PC is always open to the Internet when I am connected to
the Internet.
That's why I have a NAT router, Kerio Personal Firewall, Computer
Associates Anti Virus.
The only whole thru the firewall I know about is port 1723 and that is
socketed to the VPN, which listens for encrypted data.
If you had my WAN IP, how would you break into my PC even if I were
connected to a VPN?
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If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life. |
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Bob
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: PPTP VPN Startup Connect |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:00:39 +0200, Martin Bodenstedt
<martin.bodenstedt@gmx.de> wrote:
| Quote: | MS PPTP VPN has an option whether you want your Internet connection to
be on your machine or on the remote machine. Of course you choose to
keep the Internet connection on your machine. There is no reason to
use the remote to access the Internet when access is provided by your
machine.
By doing it the way you suggest you're compromising the remote machine
by opening the remote machine to the internet via _your_ machine
bypassing any internet access guidelines imposed on the remote machine
by its admin.
If I were the admin of the remote machine (or network), I'd kick you out
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This connection is between my son's computer and my computer. Before
he bought his own house he and I shared files on our LAN. But now that
he is in a different location we had to set up the VPN to share files.
I see no reason for him to kick me off his machine. He has the same
NAT router, the same firewall and the same antivirus s/w that I have
so we are identically configured.
| Quote: | the minute I become aware of you doing split tunneling...
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What "split tunneling"? He told his machine to use his Internet
connection and not use mine. I told my machine to use my Internet
connection and not use his. Why would the VPN s/w ignore those
instructions and set up any "split tunnel" in the first place.
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set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life. |
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Martin Bodenstedt
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: PPTP VPN Startup Connect |
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Bob schrieb:
| Quote: | On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:08:04 +0200, Martin Bodenstedt
martin.bodenstedt@gmx.de> wrote:
What do you mean by "opens your PC to the
internet"? My PC is always open to the Internet when I am connected to
the Internet.
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OK.
You don't _want_ to see my (and not only my) point.
Bye then (and good luck)...
:-(
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Martin Bodenstedt
(www.die-bodenstedts.de / www.maboko.de) |
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Snak
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject:
Re: PPTP VPN Startup Connect |
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Martin Bodenstedt wrote:
| Quote: | Bob schrieb:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:08:04 +0200, Martin Bodenstedt
martin.bodenstedt@gmx.de> wrote:
What do you mean by "opens your PC to the internet"? My PC is always
open to the Internet when I am connected to
the Internet.
OK.
You don't _want_ to see my (and not only my) point.
Bye then (and good luck)...
:-(
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Like talking to a sack of hammers isn't it? |
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Bob
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject:
Re: PPTP VPN Startup Connect |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:47:34 +0200, Martin Bodenstedt
<martin.bodenstedt@gmx.de> wrote:
| Quote: | What do you mean by "opens your PC to the
internet"? My PC is always open to the Internet when I am connected to
the Internet.
OK.
You don't _want_ to see my (and not only my) point.
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Actually I do or I would not keep replying.
But I can't see your point because it is hidden behind jargon I do not
understand.
I have an Internet connection at my house. My son has an Internet
connection at his house. I connect to his network over the Internet
using the MS PPTP VPN supplied with Win2K/XP. I use my Internet
connection for my Internet access and he uses his. There is no "split
tunnel" that I am aware of. Actually I do not understand that term, so
I can't say for certain that I do not have any.
How does this expose him or me any more than we are exposed by being
connected to the Internet? What does the VPN do that causes this
special kind of exposure? The only port that is open thru both NAT
routers (his and mine) is port 1723 and it is socketed to the VPN
software which expects encrypted traffic. With the MS PPTP VPN, there
can only be one connection at a time.
How is someone going to hack into my system when I am connected to his
network?
--
If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life. |
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Bob
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: PPTP VPN Startup Connect |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:04:12 GMT, Snak
<Snak_Snak@[notformail].invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | You don't _want_ to see my (and not only my) point.
Like talking to a sack of hammers isn't it?
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That's exactly what he sounds like with his obscure jargon.
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If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life. |
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