Does John Navas work for SBC?

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Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby Caerus » Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:20 pm

Really, do he work for SBC? When ever somebody SLAMS Cingular or
SBC he comes to the defense.

Something fishy here...

http://tinyurl.com/9yxnd
Caerus
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby Caerus » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:01 pm

Elmo P. Shagnasty (elmop@nastydesigns.com) wrote:
: In article <di6sb9$2ccg$2@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>,
: fazer89@borg.ucsf.edu (Caerus) wrote:
:
: > Really, do he work for SBC? When ever somebody SLAMS Cingular or
: > SBC he comes to the defense.
: >
: > Something fishy here...
: >
: > http://tinyurl.com/9yxnd
:
: Something's been fishy about Navas for a long, long time.
:

When GOOGLE replaces Cingular/SBC then all will be fine for
there will be a company who really CARES about a stable network
and customer service.

http://www.networkingpipeline.com/171202635
Caerus
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby John Navas » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:36 pm

[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

In <di6sb9$2ccg$2@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> on Fri, 7 Oct 2005 22:20:25 +0000 (UTC),
fazer89@borg.ucsf.edu (Caerus) wrote:

Really, do he work for SBC?

I have absolutely no relationship to SBC other than as a normal paying
customer of Cingular.

When ever somebody SLAMS Cingular or
SBC he comes to the defense.

Hardly. I do believe in personal resonsibility, and that not everything about
big companies is bad. And I post quite a bit of helpful information. How
about you? ;)

Something fishy here...

Your inappropriate personal attack perhaps? ;)

http://tinyurl.com/9yxnd

For comparison purposes, your record:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_uauthors=fazer89%40borg.ucsf.edu>

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
John Navas
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby Elmo P. Shagnasty » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:20 pm

In article <di6sb9$2ccg$2@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>,
fazer89@borg.ucsf.edu (Caerus) wrote:

Really, do he work for SBC? When ever somebody SLAMS Cingular or
SBC he comes to the defense.

Something fishy here...

http://tinyurl.com/9yxnd

Something's been fishy about Navas for a long, long time.
Elmo P. Shagnasty
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby Elmo P. Shagnasty » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:21 pm

In article
<0MC1f.118856$qY1.101310@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

Something fishy here...

Your inappropriate personal attack perhaps? ;)

The word "inappropriate" is inappropriate, in the context of your
behavior.
Elmo P. Shagnasty
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby Mike in PA » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:47 pm

"Caerus" <fazer89@borg.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
news:di6sb9$2ccg$2@itssrv1.ucsf.edu...
Really, do he work for SBC? When ever somebody SLAMS Cingular or
SBC he comes to the defense.

Something fishy here...

http://tinyurl.com/9yxnd



I lurk here and the attws ng. He adds value. Couldn't care less if he
worked for the FCC.
Mike in PA
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby Scott » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:48 am

"Caerus" <fazer89@borg.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
news:di6sb9$2ccg$2@itssrv1.ucsf.edu...
Really, do he work for SBC?

No- even the most unskilled of the SBC bunch seems to have a better
understanding of things and sometimes know when to admit lack of knowledge.
Navas would flunk even that simple test.


When ever somebody SLAMS Cingular or
SBC he comes to the defense.

Over-inflated self-importance is all it is.

Something fishy here...

The only smeel I detect is the familiar one that will accompany any of his
posts.

Scott
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby SMS » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:20 am

Caerus wrote:

When GOOGLE replaces Cingular/SBC then all will be fine for
there will be a company who really CARES about a stable network
and customer service.

http://www.networkingpipeline.com/171202635

The LECs/RBOCs, and cable companies are extremely concerned (terrified)
about Google, as that article states. Most users will be quite content
with the speeds offered by Google's wireless service, because they have
no interest in streaming hi-def video, or any of the other services that
a traditional ISP provides.

With gmail, Google Groups, and Google's VPN service, they'd satisfy 90%
of users that are now paying for DSL and broadband.

If you look at some of the statements by SBC and Comcast spokespeople,
you can see just how scared they are, when you read between the lines.
SMS
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby JohnF » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:20 am

Is Navas still around? Since I added him to my kill file I haven't had to
read his insulting replies to every post and his self-proclaimed expertise
on everything. It's been great!

"Caerus" <fazer89@borg.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
news:di6sb9$2ccg$2@itssrv1.ucsf.edu...
Really, do he work for SBC? When ever somebody SLAMS Cingular or
SBC he comes to the defense.

Something fishy here...

http://tinyurl.com/9yxnd

JohnF
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby linuxnut » Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:55 pm

In ba.internet JohnF <u85721@yahoo.com> wrote:
Is Navas still around? Since I added him to my kill file I haven't had to
read his insulting replies to every post and his self-proclaimed expertise
on everything. It's been great!


Yeah, he's around, and even with a kill file, you still have to read his
posts in peoples quotes and follow ups.. So sad that kill files don't catch
those too.

-Steve


--
"Knowing others is wisdom, knowing your self is Enlightenment." - Lao-Tzu
"An hour of hard work can often save you sixty seconds on Google"
-Greg Wilson
--
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Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby SMS » Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:01 pm

linuxnut wrote:
In ba.internet JohnF <u85721@yahoo.com> wrote:

Is Navas still around? Since I added him to my kill file I haven't had to
read his insulting replies to every post and his self-proclaimed expertise
on everything. It's been great!



Yeah, he's around, and even with a kill file, you still have to read his
posts in peoples quotes and follow ups.. So sad that kill files don't catch
those too.

Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a way to filter based on the
body of the message, because you'd need a newsreader that downloaded all
the messages, not just the headers, then didn't display the headers of
messages with follow-ups. This would be okay to do with a broadband
connection, but I don't know of any newsreader that work that way.
SMS
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby James R. DeLoach » Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:37 pm

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:20:59 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

In article <di6sb9$2ccg$2@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>,
fazer89@borg.ucsf.edu (Caerus) wrote:

Really, do he work for SBC? When ever somebody SLAMS Cingular or
SBC he comes to the defense.

Something fishy here...

http://tinyurl.com/9yxnd

Something's been fishy about Navas for a long, long time.
John is quite knowledgeable. We need more people like

him in these groups.
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Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby J Robertson » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:20 am

Caerus wrote:
Really, do he work for SBC? When ever somebody SLAMS Cingular or
SBC he comes to the defense.

Something fishy here...

http://tinyurl.com/9yxnd


Glad to see that I am not the only one who finds John Navas' insults and

denigrations more of a liability than is offset by the assets of his
sometimes limited helpful comments.

John does not seam to understand that unless Cingular gets straight talk
feedback, they will not improve. The reason, I care is that I still have
a phone with them and the HSDPA service should be the best out there, if
they get it operational and can support it.
J Robertson
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby John Navas » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:35 pm

[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

In <3l77f.2425$Yn4.270@trnddc03> on Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:46:07 GMT, J Robertson
<jrnews1@att.biz> wrote:

John does not seam to understand that unless Cingular gets straight talk
feedback, they will not improve. ...

Nothing said here will have any impact at all on Cingular.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
John Navas
 

Re: Does John Navas work for SBC?

Postby Isaiah Beard » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:49 pm

John Navas wrote:

John does not seam to understand that unless Cingular gets straight talk
feedback, they will not improve. ...

Nothing said here will have any impact at all on Cingular.

Of course it will! Every person that sees the negative feedback, the
issues, the coverage problems, the migration headaches, and decides to
either stay with their current carrier or sign up elsewhere, is a loss
to Cingular. Cingular may not view usenet as any feedback indicator,
but they would be foolish to see their net adds continue to slide and
not take action.

The numbers bear themselves out. The latest figures are in, and
Cingular couldn't even break a million net gains this quarter (0.867
mil), while Sprint (1.3 mil), T-Mobile (0.972 mil), and Verizon (1.9mil)
soundly surpassed Cingular in net adds. It's a sad testament to
Cingualr when the #2, #3 AND #4 carriers below it are gaining faster
than they can keep up.

T-Mobile figures: http://www.wirelessweek.com/article/CA634327.html
Sprint figures: http://www.sprint.com/investors/earnings/qe/3q05.pdf
Verizon figures: http://investor.verizon.com/news/view.aspx?NewsID=687



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