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Timothy Daniels
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:20 am Post subject:
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I've decided to stop renting a cable modem
and to buy an Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 cable
modem. I'm looking for reliability and connection
stability and cool running. Is there a model you
feel you can recommend? Any extensive credible
reviews of 4 or more brands?
Can you recommend one that combines an
Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem with a router?
*TimDaniels* |
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$Bill
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:20 am Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
| Quote: | I've decided to stop renting a cable modem
and to buy an Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 cable
modem. I'm looking for reliability and connection
stability and cool running. Is there a model you
feel you can recommend? Any extensive credible
reviews of 4 or more brands?
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Any Motorola 51xx model would probably be the consensus.
| Quote: | Can you recommend one that combines an
Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem with a router?
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No - keep them separate. Netgear or Linksys are cheap and solid.
And when you need a modem replacement you still have a router.
$29.95 for a Netgear wireless G router with 4-port switch at
your local Circuit City this week. |
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James Knott
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
| Quote: | Can you recommend one that combines an
Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem with a router?
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Step one. Find out what your cable company is willing to support. |
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Timothy Daniels
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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"$Bill" wrote:
| Quote: | Timothy Daniels wrote:
I've decided to stop renting a cable modem
and to buy an Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 cable
modem. I'm looking for reliability and connection
stability and cool running. Is there a model you
feel you can recommend? Any extensive credible
reviews of 4 or more brands?
Any Motorola 51xx model would probably be the consensus.
Can you recommend one that combines an
Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem with a router?
No - keep them separate. Netgear or Linksys are cheap and solid.
And when you need a modem replacement you still have a router.
$29.95 for a Netgear wireless G router with 4-port switch at
your local Circuit City this week.
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Thanks for your reply. Even from just a cooling angle,
the Motorolas look good.
*TimDaniels* |
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Timothy Daniels
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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"James Knott" wrote:
| Quote: | Timothy Daniels wrote:
Can you recommend one that combines an
Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem with a router?
Step one. Find out what your cable company is willing to support.
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Called Comcast. Tech Support says that anything DOCSIS
1.x or 2.0 compliant is acceptable.
*TimDaniels* |
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James Knott
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Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:14 am Post subject:
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
Any relation to Jack? ;-) |
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Warren
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Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:33 am Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
| Quote: | "James Knott" wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote:
Can you recommend one that combines an
Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem with a router?
Step one. Find out what your cable company is willing to support.
Called Comcast. Tech Support says that anything DOCSIS
1.x or 2.0 compliant is acceptable.
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I'm not going to go so far as to say they lied to you, but that's not the
whole story.
Here's the list of modems you can use on Comcast:
http://www.comcast.com/Support/Corp1/FAQ/FaqDetail_2427.html
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Warren H.
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employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
Your guide to Network Television's Fall Premiers:
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Timothy Daniels
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Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:21 am Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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"Warren" wrote:
| Quote: | Timothy Daniels wrote:
"James Knott" wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote:
Can you recommend one that combines an
Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem with a router?
Step one. Find out what your cable company is willing to support.
Called Comcast. Tech Support says that anything DOCSIS
1.x or 2.0 compliant is acceptable.
I'm not going to go so far as to say they lied to you, but that's not the
whole story.
Here's the list of modems you can use on Comcast:
http://www.comcast.com/Support/Corp1/FAQ/FaqDetail_2427.html
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Thanks. Maybe the Tech rep knew that there wasn't a
modem on the American market which *didn't* comply
with Comcast's current requirments.
BTW, do you happen to know the difference between the
Motorola SB5101 and the SB5120 modems?
http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/sb5101/
http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/sb5120/
*TimDaniels* |
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Warren
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Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:21 am Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks. Maybe the Tech rep knew that there wasn't a
modem on the American market which *didn't* comply
with Comcast's current requirments.
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There are a few that you can find in the retail "new" market that don't make
the list, but you won't find them at any of the big-box chain stores. Ma and
Pa local stores *should* also know better than to stock modems that don't
work with all the local providers. You'll find the new ones that aren't on
the list mostly at online stores, and some regional chain stores that have
electronics buyers that don't know what they're doing. eBay and the other
auction sites are also sources of new and used modems that aren't on the
list.
The 5100 and 5101 use a Broadcom chipset, while the 5120 uses a Texas
Instruments chipset. Some folks have an opinion that one is better than the
other, but the difference isn't significant. There are probably just as
significant differences between production runs of the same model numbers
than there are between the different chipsets. Both are excellent choices.
New Comcast customers should be able to find the modems with rebates that
cover the whole cost of the modem. (Current Comcast customers should be able
to find smaller rebates.)
In some markets, starting on or shortly after October 1, Radio Shack will be
offering a deal where if you sign-up for Comcast High Speed Internet as a
new customer (one who hasn't had the service for at least 60 days) you'll
get the same introductory rate that you could get by calling Comcast
directly, but instead of three months, you get the promotional rate for six
months. They're tossing in rebates to make the modem free (they have either
SB5100's or SB5120), a mail-in coupon for a free mp3 player, and two $50
"cable cash" certificates that you can use to pay your Comcast bill. This is
only in limited markets. Your area may have a different deal, and (of
course) this won't be available in areas where Comcast isn't a provider.
--
Warren H.
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Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
Your guide to Network Television's Fall Premiers:
http://www.holzemville.com/television/fall2005.html |
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James Knott
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Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks. Maybe the Tech rep knew that there wasn't a
modem on the American market which didn't comply
with Comcast's current requirments.
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First line tech reps aren't allowed to know what they're talking about. ;-) |
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Timothy Daniels
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Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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Thanks for the information. I notice that there
are a lot of SB5120's on eBay going for
dump 'em prices. Heard any reason?
*TimDaniels* |
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Timothy Daniels
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Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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"Warren" wrote:
| Quote: | New Comcast customers should be able to find the modems with
rebates that cover the whole cost of the modem. (Current Comcast
customers should be able to find smaller rebates.)
In some markets, starting on or shortly after October 1, Radio Shack
will be offering a deal where if you sign-up for Comcast High Speed
Internet as a new customer (one who hasn't had the service for at
least 60 days) you'll get the same introductory rate that you could get
by calling Comcast directly, but instead of three months, you get the
promotional rate for six months. They're tossing in rebates to make
the modem free (they have either SB5100's or SB5120), a mail-in
coupon for a free mp3 player, and two $50 "cable cash" certificates
that you can use to pay your Comcast bill. This is only in limited markets.
Your area may have a different deal, and (of course) this won't be
available in areas where Comcast isn't a provider.
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Have you a suggestion for a strategy to cut down my current $60/mo
cable bill without subscribing to Comcast Video? I'm in an SBC
area, and I was wondering what kind of deal I might be able to
negotiate with Comcast if I threaten to go to DSL.
*TimDaniels* |
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George Berger
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Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:39 am Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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In article <mJudnXHu1sJFq6HeRVn-1w@comcast.com>,
"Timothy Daniels" <TDaniels@NoSpamDot.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for the information. I notice that there
are a lot of SB5120's on eBay going for
dump 'em prices. Heard any reason?
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Nope - But Amazon.com has them, new-in-box for $70.83, and they come
with a warranty. You really can't tell what you're getting on eBay.
George
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I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am
not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
-- Robert McCloskey, State Department spokesman (attributed) |
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$Bill
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Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:51 am Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for the information. I notice that there
are a lot of SB5120's on eBay going for
dump 'em prices. Heard any reason?
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$40-60 looks pretty much like what the 5100 went for on eBay. With the low
eBay overhead, people can sell them cheaper than a store can. |
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Warren
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Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:20 am Post subject:
Re: recommend Ethernet DOCSIS 2.0 modem? |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
| Quote: | Have you a suggestion for a strategy to cut down my current $60/mo
cable bill without subscribing to Comcast Video? I'm in an SBC
area, and I was wondering what kind of deal I might be able to
negotiate with Comcast if I threaten to go to DSL.
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Most companies providing monthly services have (had?) a "save desk" with
reps who are authorized to give you deals as good as, or sometimes even
better than the introductory deals flying around. However, AOL just got in
big trouble for their save desk practices, with people claiming that it was
too difficult to cancel. How that has impacted the way companies, including
Comcast, operate their save desk is unclear at this time.
Also, you don't automatically get to the save desk by *threatening* to quit.
If the rep thinks it's an empty threat, they won't transfer you. But if you
flat-out ask to cancel, they might decide that you aren't open to reasoning,
and they'll immediately cancel your account. If you try to be direct, and
tell them that you're looking at a better deal unless they can match it, you
might not say the right thing, and the agent will simply say that their
prices aren't negotiable because they're not authorized to negotiate. Asking
for a supervisor may not help because their supervisor may not be able to
negotiate either, and you'll be going down a path that doesn't lead to the
save desk.
If you're not willing to risk actually cancelling, my advice would be to not
try. You need to be willing to accept that the consequence of not getting a
better deal isn't just walking away in the same position you're in today.
The consequence may be walking away with your account cancelled.
--
Warren H.
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Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
Your guide to Network Television's Fall Premiers:
http://www.holzemville.com/television/fall2005.html |
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