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JamesL
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Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:50 am Post subject:
Netmeeting through Wireless Network routers, How? |
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I have been using netmeeting initiating the conversation through the method
of identifying each others IP address and connecting via that address. The
situation is now changing for me. One computer is attached to Wireless
router. The router holds the public IP address, the computer has an
internal network IP address served by the router through DHCP. The other
computer will be connecting through a wireless kiosk in a hotel. So again,
the kiosk will hold the public IP and will serve an internal IP through
DHCP. Since both computers are on internal networks behind routers, but
with high speed internet connections, how do we make the connection
analogous to the IP address method?
James Lysaght |
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Striker
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Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:08 am Post subject:
Re: Netmeeting through Wireless Network routers, How? |
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I suggest that you change to using Instant Messaging using MSN Messenger.
The only other easy thing is to bypass your routers when you have a
scheduled NetMeeting call. I do that with one of my contacts because his
ISP blocks some IM ports.
"JamesL" <forgeddaboudit@spamblock.duh> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have been using netmeeting initiating the conversation through the method
of identifying each others IP address and connecting via that address.
The
situation is now changing for me. One computer is attached to Wireless
router. The router holds the public IP address, the computer has an
internal network IP address served by the router through DHCP. The other
computer will be connecting through a wireless kiosk in a hotel. So
again,
the kiosk will hold the public IP and will serve an internal IP through
DHCP. Since both computers are on internal networks behind routers, but
with high speed internet connections, how do we make the connection
analogous to the IP address method?
James Lysaght
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:11 am Post subject:
Re: Netmeeting through Wireless Network routers, How? |
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JamesL wrote:
| Quote: | I have been using netmeeting initiating the conversation through the
method of identifying each others IP address and connecting via that
address. The situation is now changing for me. One computer is
attached to Wireless router. The router holds the public IP address,
the computer has an internal network IP address served by the router
through DHCP. The other computer will be connecting through a
wireless kiosk in a hotel. So again, the kiosk will hold the public
IP and will serve an internal IP through DHCP. Since both computers
are on internal networks behind routers, but with high speed internet
connections, how do we make the connection analogous to the IP
address method?
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Assuming you want an audio/video connection, likely the only way to do a
similar thing is to use the dmz feature of the router, designating the
desired NetMeeting client as the dmz client (running a software firewall
hopefully) and calling the wan Ip of the router.
The hotel end may be a problem though as usually audio/video calls will not
be possible to or *from* a party behind a NAT router. It depends on the
device that you are behind though as some routers have h.323 proxy/gateway
functions that allow full audio/video calling on outgoing calls.
--
Brian Sullivan
Meeting by Wire ( http://www.meetingbywire.com)
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JamesL
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Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:50 am Post subject:
Re: Netmeeting through Wireless Network routers, How? |
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The drawback to MSN is I want to use video features. How would I bypass my
routers?
James Lysaght
"Striker" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eC$eVZAKEHA.2380@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | I suggest that you change to using Instant Messaging using MSN Messenger.
The only other easy thing is to bypass your routers when you have a
scheduled NetMeeting call. I do that with one of my contacts because his
ISP blocks some IM ports.
"JamesL" <forgeddaboudit@spamblock.duh> wrote in message
news:nNDhc.6113$e4.5359@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
I have been using netmeeting initiating the conversation through the
method
of identifying each others IP address and connecting via that address.
The
situation is now changing for me. One computer is attached to Wireless
router. The router holds the public IP address, the computer has an
internal network IP address served by the router through DHCP. The
other
computer will be connecting through a wireless kiosk in a hotel. So
again,
the kiosk will hold the public IP and will serve an internal IP through
DHCP. Since both computers are on internal networks behind routers, but
with high speed internet connections, how do we make the connection
analogous to the IP address method?
James Lysaght
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JamesL
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Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:52 am Post subject:
Re: Netmeeting through Wireless Network routers, How? |
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Can you expand on this DMZ client thing. I just installed the Microsoft
MN700 router. How would I go about designating a particular computer on the
network to the DMZ client?
James Lysaght
"Brian Sullivan MVP" <brians@WORMTIREDmeetingbywire.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | JamesL wrote:
I have been using netmeeting initiating the conversation through the
method of identifying each others IP address and connecting via that
address. The situation is now changing for me. One computer is
attached to Wireless router. The router holds the public IP address,
the computer has an internal network IP address served by the router
through DHCP. The other computer will be connecting through a
wireless kiosk in a hotel. So again, the kiosk will hold the public
IP and will serve an internal IP through DHCP. Since both computers
are on internal networks behind routers, but with high speed internet
connections, how do we make the connection analogous to the IP
address method?
Assuming you want an audio/video connection, likely the only way to do a
similar thing is to use the dmz feature of the router, designating the
desired NetMeeting client as the dmz client (running a software firewall
hopefully) and calling the wan Ip of the router.
The hotel end may be a problem though as usually audio/video calls will
not
be possible to or *from* a party behind a NAT router. It depends on the
device that you are behind though as some routers have h.323 proxy/gateway
functions that allow full audio/video calling on outgoing calls.
--
Brian Sullivan
Meeting by Wire ( http://www.meetingbywire.com)
------------
Is your PC protected? --
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:03 am Post subject:
Re: Netmeeting through Wireless Network routers, How? |
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JamesL wrote:
| Quote: | Can you expand on this DMZ client thing. I just installed the
Microsoft MN700 router. How would I go about designating a
particular computer on the network to the DMZ client?
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I don't the know the specifics for the router but generally you would access
the router configuration pages via a browser ( probably at
http://192.168.2.1 if you are running a default configuration) and set the
dmz to the IP of the desired NetMeeting client-- that opens the client to
all traffic coming to the router so a software firewall should be in place.
Your router documentation should have explicit instructions. My MN500 has
information in the "Configuration" section.
--
Brian Sullivan
Meeting by Wire ( http://www.meetingbywire.com)
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JamesL
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Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:29 pm Post subject:
Re: Netmeeting through Wireless Network routers, How? |
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My mistake, I just discovered that MSN messenger 6.1 includes video
features. I downloaded that to both my XP and 2000 machines and I believe
this may solve my problem.
James
"JamesL" <forgeddaboudit@spamblock.duh> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The drawback to MSN is I want to use video features. How would I bypass
my
routers?
James Lysaght
"Striker" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eC$eVZAKEHA.2380@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
I suggest that you change to using Instant Messaging using MSN
Messenger.
The only other easy thing is to bypass your routers when you have a
scheduled NetMeeting call. I do that with one of my contacts because
his
ISP blocks some IM ports.
"JamesL" <forgeddaboudit@spamblock.duh> wrote in message
news:nNDhc.6113$e4.5359@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
I have been using netmeeting initiating the conversation through the
method
of identifying each others IP address and connecting via that address.
The
situation is now changing for me. One computer is attached to
Wireless
router. The router holds the public IP address, the computer has an
internal network IP address served by the router through DHCP. The
other
computer will be connecting through a wireless kiosk in a hotel. So
again,
the kiosk will hold the public IP and will serve an internal IP
through
DHCP. Since both computers are on internal networks behind routers,
but
with high speed internet connections, how do we make the connection
analogous to the IP address method?
James Lysaght
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:42 pm Post subject:
Re: Netmeeting through Wireless Network routers, How? |
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JamesL wrote:
| Quote: | My mistake, I just discovered that MSN messenger 6.1 includes video
features. I downloaded that to both my XP and 2000 machines and I
believe this may solve my problem.
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AFAIK though the audio features in Messenger still require UPnP NAT
traversal support at the router/firewall. If the devices in use support that
standard then the audio should have no problem.
Video support(at least the video support for both XP and 2000) is via the
Logitech "Webcam" feature which I think has server support to allow it to
function(though in degraded performance) when both parties are behind NATs.
--
Brian Sullivan
Meeting by Wire ( http://www.meetingbywire.com)
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