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maxim2k
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
Hi,

Can you recommend a good crimping tool for RJ45 plugs under $100?

I'll use it mostly for me and friends, not for professional work.

Thanks.
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James Knott
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
maxim2k wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

Can you recommend a good crimping tool for RJ45 plugs under $100?

I'll use it mostly for me and friends, not for professional work.

Thanks.

Wander down to your local electronics shop. There are many consumer level
crimpers available for well under $100.
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Robert Redelmeier
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
maxim2k <maxim2k@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Can you recommend a good crimping tool for RJ45 plugs under $100?
I'll use it mostly for me and friends, not for professional work.

Even they may be displeased. Crimpers take a lot of knowledge
and skill to use correctly. You need to know a fair bit in at
least three areas: wiremap, plug/cable selection and crimp depth.

Hint: pros _buy_ patchcords and avoid crimpers.

-- Robert
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Carl Navarro
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:20 am    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 16:19:23 GMT, Robert Redelmeier
<redelm@ev1.net.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
maxim2k <maxim2k@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you recommend a good crimping tool for RJ45 plugs under $100?
I'll use it mostly for me and friends, not for professional work.

Even they may be displeased. Crimpers take a lot of knowledge
and skill to use correctly. You need to know a fair bit in at
least three areas: wiremap, plug/cable selection and crimp depth.

Hint: pros _buy_ patchcords and avoid crimpers.


LOL I own a pair of AMP crimpers and I can't remember exactly when I
had the 8-pin die in the tool, but I remember where. It was an auto
dealership that has not been my account for at lest 5 years :-)

Likewise, the 4-pin handset die has been in its case for at least 4
years.

Carl Navarro
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Smowk
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
maxim2k <maxim2k@gmail.com> wrote in news:42ff1c75$0$849$afc38c87
@news.easynet.it:

Quote:
Hi,

Can you recommend a good crimping tool for RJ45 plugs under $100?

I'll use it mostly for me and friends, not for professional work.

Thanks.

Ideal makes a really nice one for 60 or 70 dollars. which i believe is
their most expensive rj45 and rj11 crimper. also cuts and strips...

smowk

ps - also at home depot and the likes
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maxim2k
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
On 8/15/05 3:15 PM, Smowk wrote:
Quote:
Ideal makes a really nice one for 60 or 70 dollars. which i believe is
their most expensive rj45 and rj11 crimper. also cuts and strips...

I heard that Ideal tools only crimp in two locations, not in three like
professional crimpers (AMP, etc.).

Is that true for all Ideal tools or just low-end ones?

How about the Ideal Ratchet Telemaster (30-696)?
Does it crimp in two or three locations?
<http://www.idealindustries.com/IDEAL-ez/products.nsf/ItemMasterLookup/p30-696?OpenDocument>

Thanks.
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James Knott
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
maxim2k wrote:

Quote:
Ideal makes a really nice one for 60 or 70 dollars. which i believe is
their most expensive rj45 and rj11 crimper. also cuts and strips...

I heard that Ideal tools only crimp in two locations, not in three like
professional crimpers (AMP, etc.).

Are you talking about RJ11 and 45 connectors or coax? With those plastic
block twisted pair connectors, you're only pressing down the pins and the
lock tab, not actually crimping anything.
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
maxim2k wrote:

Quote:
I heard that Ideal tools only crimp in two locations, not in three like

professional crimpers (AMP, etc.).

Is that true for all Ideal tools or just low-end ones?

How about the Ideal Ratchet Telemaster (30-696)?
Does it crimp in two or three locations?

http://www.idealindustries.com/IDEAL-ez/products.nsf/ItemMasterLookup/p30-696?OpenDocument


It is not how many locations, it's what's the actual position on the plug
it presses at. Ideal crimper won't crimp AMP plugs due to differences in
positions of the locking tab on the plugs from those manufacturers. But if
you get Ideal plugs and Ideal crimper you won't have a problem at all.
Ideal crimper is nice, I actually like it better that AMP, but that's just
a personal preference.
Good luck!

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Al Dykes
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
In article <MMqMe.85828$D21.76533@fe07.news.easynews.com>,
Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com) <info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com> wrote:
Quote:
maxim2k wrote:

I heard that Ideal tools only crimp in two locations, not in three like

professional crimpers (AMP, etc.).

Is that true for all Ideal tools or just low-end ones?

How about the Ideal Ratchet Telemaster (30-696)?
Does it crimp in two or three locations?

http://www.idealindustries.com/IDEAL-ez/products.nsf/ItemMasterLookup/p30-696?OpenDocument

It is not how many locations, it's what's the actual position on the plug
it presses at. Ideal crimper won't crimp AMP plugs due to differences in
positions of the locking tab on the plugs from those manufacturers. But if
you get Ideal plugs and Ideal crimper you won't have a problem at all.
Ideal crimper is nice, I actually like it better that AMP, but that's just
a personal preference.
Good luck!


As someone that installs my own plugs plugs only when I can't avoid it
I find that the *only* plugs I can wire up correctly are the AMP plugs
that have the little alignment block. I have the right AMP tool for
those plugs.

If the OP hasn't tried to do a crimp already I suggest he borrow a
tool, plugs and some wire and try it for himself.

IMO I could live without crimping any plugs and just use 110 keystones
in surface mount blocks or keystones.


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Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.
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maxim2k
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
On 8/16/05 1:46 PM, James Knott wrote:
Quote:
Are you talking about RJ11 and 45 connectors or coax? With those plastic
block twisted pair connectors, you're only pressing down the pins and the
lock tab, not actually crimping anything.

RJ45, as per the message subject.
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James Knott
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
maxim2k wrote:

Quote:
On 8/16/05 1:46 PM, James Knott wrote:
Are you talking about RJ11 and 45 connectors or coax? With those plastic
block twisted pair connectors, you're only pressing down the pins and the
lock tab, not actually crimping anything.

RJ45, as per the message subject.

So, why the reference to three locations?
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maxim2k
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
On 8/18/05 1:46 PM, James Knott wrote:
Quote:
So, why the reference to three locations?

As per my previous message, I read that some tools only crimp in two
locations and they don't do a good job as professional tools that crimp
in three locations.

Thanks.
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James Knott
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
maxim2k wrote:

Quote:
On 8/18/05 1:46 PM, James Knott wrote:
So, why the reference to three locations?

As per my previous message, I read that some tools only crimp in two
locations and they don't do a good job as professional tools that crimp
in three locations.

And that would be in reference to coax connectors, not RJ45.
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:06 am    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
"James Knott" <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote in message
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maxim2k wrote:

Hi,

Can you recommend a good crimping tool for RJ45 plugs under $100?

I'll use it mostly for me and friends, not for professional work.

Thanks.

Wander down to your local electronics shop. There are many consumer
level
crimpers available for well under $100.

As with most things, you gets what you pays for. The inexpensive Ideal
crimper, for example, does not crimp at all three locations. It only
crimps two points, so the wires don't have a firm anchoring as with a
better quality crimper. The Paladin crfimpers were up around a hundred,
maybe more than that now, and looked pretty sturdy. I don't rememebr if
they crimped all three points, tho.

A couple points that are important. Some cheap crimpers try to do doo
much, like also crimp RJ-11. They have cut corners, so they do not seat
the gold plated pins well, so that the teeth don't pierce the wire
insulation fully and make good contact.

Also, you will never get better than cat5 quality cables. Since
currently virtually all contractors are installing cat6, IMHO you will
never get the full channel up to cat6 if you use anything but the best
cripmers that do the special cat6 connectors. And it's also so cheap to
buy your patch cords premade, with cat6 cable and connectors, so doing
your own crimping is not the best idea nowadays.
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: best RJ45 crimper under $100? Reply with quote
"Smowk" <SmowkOne@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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maxim2k <maxim2k@gmail.com> wrote in news:42ff1c75$0$849$afc38c87
@news.easynet.it:

Hi,

Can you recommend a good crimping tool for RJ45 plugs under $100?

I'll use it mostly for me and friends, not for professional work.

Thanks.

Ideal makes a really nice one for 60 or 70 dollars. which i believe
is
their most expensive rj45 and rj11 crimper. also cuts and strips...

smowk

ps - also at home depot and the likes

Warning about this - see my other followup.
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