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troydavidsmith
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:56 pm Post subject:
Cat 5 for phone and ethernet? |
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I moved into a small apartment with Cat 5 run throughout and want to run
phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time trying to get
this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has any
advice?
The set up is:
I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in the
garage. The garage line carries the DSL service.
From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack.
I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack.
DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out.
DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router.
Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down block....)
Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from the rest
allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I plug this
into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the phone jack
and works great.
I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and cut them
about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack into
1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the other
end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK.
Help??
Thanks!!!
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:28 am Post subject:
Re: Cat 5 for phone and ethernet? |
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troydavidsmith wrote:
| Quote: | I moved into a small apartment with Cat 5 run throughout and want to run
phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time trying to
get
this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has any
advice?
The set up is:
I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in the
garage. The garage line carries the DSL service.
From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack.
I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack.
DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out.
DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router.
Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down
block....)
Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from the
rest
allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I plug
this
into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the phone
jack
and works great.
I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and cut
them
about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack into
1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the other
end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK.
Help??
Thanks!!!
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Does your router have a DSL modem built-in? In the description of your
setup I could not find that part about the modem that should have received
the DSL out from the splitter and then give out an Ethernet connection to
your router. Sometimes these DSL modem and the router are combined in one
device, and you don't need that additional connection. But if they are not
- that the problem right there.
The other thing is: what exactly did not work? Did you observe a link
light on the PC? on the corresponding port of the router? Did you not have
ability to browse Internet? How exactly the problem manifested itself?
Also, check on how the CAT5 is pulled and terminated: if all your cables
are bridged together like they used to do for a phone line, it's not going
to work for Ethernet as it requires point-to-point cabling
--
Dmitri Abaimov, RCDD
http://www.cabling-design.com
Cabling Forum, color codes, pinouts and other useful resources for
premises cabling users and pros
http://www.cabling-design.com/homecabling
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troydavidsmith
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:23 am Post subject:
Re: Cat 5 for phone and ethernet? |
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Hi! I overlooked the modem - yes I have it and it is plugged into the
router.
I didn't observe the green light on the laptop that indicates I have a
network connection and I couldn't gain access to the internet.
I will try again tonight with some other cable. This should work, right?
Thanks
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com wrote:
| Quote: | troydavidsmith wrote:
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| Quote: | I moved into a small apartment with Cat 5 run throughout and want
to run
phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time
trying to
get
this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has
any
advice?
The set up is:
I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in
the
garage. The garage line carries the DSL service.
From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack.
I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack.
DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out.
DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router.
Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down
block....)
Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from
the
rest
allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I
plug
this
into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the
phone
jack
and works great.
I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and
cut
them
about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack
into
1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the
other
end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK.
Help??
Thanks!!!
Does your router have a DSL modem built-in? In the description of your
setup I could not find that part about the modem that should have
received
the DSL out from the splitter and then give out an Ethernet connection
to
your router. Sometimes these DSL modem and the router are combined in
one
device, and you don't need that additional connection. But if they are
not
- that the problem right there.
The other thing is: what exactly did not work? Did you observe a link
light on the PC? on the corresponding port of the router? Did you not
have
ability to browse Internet? How exactly the problem manifested itself?
Also, check on how the CAT5 is pulled and terminated: if all your
cables
are bridged together like they used to do for a phone line, it's not
going
to work for Ethernet as it requires point-to-point cabling
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troydavidsmith
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:24 am Post subject:
Re: Cat 5 for phone and ethernet? |
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Hi! I overlooked the modem - yes I have it and it is plugged into the
router.
I didn't observe the green light on the laptop that indicates I have a
network connection and I couldn't gain access to the internet.
I will try again tonight with some other cable. This should work, right?
Thanks
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com wrote:
| Quote: | troydavidsmith wrote:
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| Quote: | I moved into a small apartment with Cat 5 run throughout and want
to run
phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time
trying to
get
this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has
any
advice?
The set up is:
I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in
the
garage. The garage line carries the DSL service.
From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack.
I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack.
DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out.
DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router.
Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down
block....)
Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from
the
rest
allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I
plug
this
into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the
phone
jack
and works great.
I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and
cut
them
about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack
into
1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the
other
end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK.
Help??
Thanks!!!
Does your router have a DSL modem built-in? In the description of your
setup I could not find that part about the modem that should have
received
the DSL out from the splitter and then give out an Ethernet connection
to
your router. Sometimes these DSL modem and the router are combined in
one
device, and you don't need that additional connection. But if they are
not
- that the problem right there.
The other thing is: what exactly did not work? Did you observe a link
light on the PC? on the corresponding port of the router? Did you not
have
ability to browse Internet? How exactly the problem manifested itself?
Also, check on how the CAT5 is pulled and terminated: if all your
cables
are bridged together like they used to do for a phone line, it's not
going
to work for Ethernet as it requires point-to-point cabling
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Carl Navarro
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:01 am Post subject:
Re: Cat 5 for phone and ethernet? |
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:08 GMT,
troydavidsmith_at_hotmail_dot_com@foo.com (troydavidsmith) wrote:
| Quote: | Hi! I overlooked the modem - yes I have it and it is plugged into the
router.
I didn't observe the green light on the laptop that indicates I have a
network connection and I couldn't gain access to the internet.
I will try again tonight with some other cable. This should work, right?
Thanks
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Beats me. The first thing you should do is plug the DSL modem into
the line and see if you get 3 or 4 green lights that show you are
synch'ed with the DSL provider. At that point, you can probably plug
in the router and see if the ethernet light comes on in the DSL modem.
You may be able to plug your computer directly into the DSL modem with
a straight through cable if the port is auto sensing, or you may have
to use a crossover cable. Sometimes the DSL is supplied with a
crossover cable and you have to supply the straight-through cable.
For the price, I just carry around a 5 port auto sensing switch and I
don't have to worry about crossover cables :-)
Carl Navarro
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com wrote:
troydavidsmith wrote:
I moved into a small apartment with Cat 5 run throughout and want
to run
phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time
trying to
get
this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has
any
advice?
The set up is:
I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in
the
garage. The garage line carries the DSL service.
From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack.
I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack.
DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out.
DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router.
Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down
block....)
Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from
the
rest
allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I
plug
this
into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the
phone
jack
and works great.
I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and
cut
them
about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack
into
1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the
other
end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK.
Help??
Thanks!!!
Does your router have a DSL modem built-in? In the description of your
setup I could not find that part about the modem that should have
received
the DSL out from the splitter and then give out an Ethernet connection
to
your router. Sometimes these DSL modem and the router are combined in
one
device, and you don't need that additional connection. But if they are
not
- that the problem right there.
The other thing is: what exactly did not work? Did you observe a link
light on the PC? on the corresponding port of the router? Did you not
have
ability to browse Internet? How exactly the problem manifested itself?
Also, check on how the CAT5 is pulled and terminated: if all your
cables
are bridged together like they used to do for a phone line, it's not
going
to work for Ethernet as it requires point-to-point cabling
##-----------------------------------------------##
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