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Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
RJ45 Cat5e cables - male one one end, female (keystone) on o |
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I'm going to be doing a Cat5e wiring project in my home. I plan on
having wall plates in various places, including the home office. These
will all have keystone jacks. The other ends of the cables will all
terminate in the basement, to be plugged into a switch. These ends
will all have male RJ45 connectors.
My question is this: when I wire the keystone jacks, do I follow their
wiring diagram, or go opposite of it, as the other end won't have a
keystone jack but a male RJ45 connector. I realize I want all the
wiring to end up straight-through.
(The keystone jack in the office will be used to attach to a router via
a patch cable. The router connects to a cable modem and other
computers in the office.) |
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Doug McIntyre
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Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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pjhartman@gmail.com writes:
| Quote: | I'm going to be doing a Cat5e wiring project in my home. I plan on
having wall plates in various places, including the home office. These
will all have keystone jacks. The other ends of the cables will all
terminate in the basement, to be plugged into a switch. These ends
will all have male RJ45 connectors.
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I'd recommend against that. Spend the $100 on a patch-panel for the
basement, and terminate your cable into that. A couple years down the
road, you won't have to be redoing the ends, because solid crimps that
flex (ie. into a switch) just don't hold up for years and years.
| Quote: | My question is this: when I wire the keystone jacks, do I follow their
wiring diagram, or go opposite of it, as the other end won't have a
keystone jack but a male RJ45 connector. I realize I want all the
wiring to end up straight-through.
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Its all straight-through. |
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James Knott
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Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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pjhartman@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | I'm going to be doing a Cat5e wiring project in my home. I plan on
having wall plates in various places, including the home office. These
will all have keystone jacks. The other ends of the cables will all
terminate in the basement, to be plugged into a switch. These ends
will all have male RJ45 connectors.
My question is this: when I wire the keystone jacks, do I follow their
wiring diagram, or go opposite of it, as the other end won't have a
keystone jack but a male RJ45 connector. I realize I want all the
wiring to end up straight-through.
(The keystone jack in the office will be used to attach to a router via
a patch cable. The router connects to a cable modem and other
computers in the office.)
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What you should do, is visualize the conductors passing through the
connectors. Do they match up?
Yes, you follow the standard wiring. |
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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pjhartman@gmail.com wrote:
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I'm going to be doing a Cat5e wiring project in my home. I plan on
having wall plates in various places, including the home office. These
will all have keystone jacks. The other ends of the cables will all
terminate in the basement, to be plugged into a switch. These ends
will all have male RJ45 connectors.
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Don't do that. Either get a patch panel or, if you don't have too many
cables, more keystone jacks, and then use patch cables to connect to the
switch.
-Larry Jones
He's just jealous because I accomplish so much more than he does. -- Calvin |
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:55 pm Post subject:
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<pjhartman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121975310.737073.278260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I'm going to be doing a Cat5e wiring project in my home. I plan on
having wall plates in various places, including the home office.
These
will all have keystone jacks. The other ends of the cables will all
terminate in the basement, to be plugged into a switch. These ends
will all have male RJ45 connectors.
My question is this: when I wire the keystone jacks, do I follow their
wiring diagram, or go opposite of it, as the other end won't have a
keystone jack but a male RJ45 connector. I realize I want all the
wiring to end up straight-through.
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We don't use male RJ-45 connectors on solid conductor cable, we punch
down this cable to a patch panel. If a patch panel is too expensive,
then install a 4 0r 6 port faceplate and use keystone jacks. Then use
patch cords from the panel to the switch.
Crimping on RJ-45s to solid conductor cable is unreliable and considered
unprofessional. And you end up with a poorly labeled mess.
| Quote: | (The keystone jack in the office will be used to attach to a router
via
a patch cable. The router connects to a cable modem and other
computers in the office.)
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pjhartman@gmail.com
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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Just a follow-up on how the wiring project went.
I decided to take the advice of the knowledgeable folks here, and
terminated both ends of all Cat5e UTP solid core with keystones; I
didn't have enough (6) to really necessitate a patch panel. I then
used short patch cables to connect to the switch. All of the lines
tested out on the first try, and she's up and running. The only
casualty was about 2 lbs of water weight that came out as sweat as I
ran lines to & from the very hot attic.
Thanks to all who offered their advice on my project. |
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donnyboy
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Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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I was thinking of doing the same thing at home, skipping the patch panel
mostly to not have the additional cost. However, since everyone seems to
think that the RJ45 to keystone isn't a good idea, I'll go ahead and get a
patch panel.
The one question I have is, is there a preferred cable to use for this
setup? I'm going with Cat5e, but am not sure about solid, UTP, shielded,
plenum, etc. Any information would be most appreciated.
Cheers.
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
| Quote: | pjhartman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121975310.737073.278260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I'm going to be doing a Cat5e wiring project in my home. I plan
on
having wall plates in various places, including the home office.
These
will all have keystone jacks. The other ends of the cables will
all
terminate in the basement, to be plugged into a switch. These
ends
will all have male RJ45 connectors.
My question is this: when I wire the keystone jacks, do I follow
their
wiring diagram, or go opposite of it, as the other end won't have
a
keystone jack but a male RJ45 connector. I realize I want all the
wiring to end up straight-through.
We don't use male RJ-45 connectors on solid conductor cable, we punch
down this cable to a patch panel. If a patch panel is too expensive,
then install a 4 0r 6 port faceplate and use keystone jacks. Then use
patch cords from the panel to the switch.
Crimping on RJ-45s to solid conductor cable is unreliable and
considered
unprofessional. And you end up with a poorly labeled mess.
(The keystone jack in the office will be used to attach to a
router
via
a patch cable. The router connects to a cable modem and other
computers in the office.)
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Robert Redelmeier
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Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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donnyboy <domsmith1011_at_yahoo_dot_com@foo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I was thinking of doing the same thing at home, skipping the
patch panel mostly to not have the additional cost. However,
since everyone seems to think that the RJ45 to keystone
isn't a good idea, I'll go ahead and get a patch panel.
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You can build a small patch-panel equivalent very inexpensively
with a double-gange electrical box (cut out back) with two
6-keystone plates.
| Quote: | The one question I have is, is there a preferred cable to
use for this setup? I'm going with Cat5e, but am not sure
about solid, UTP, shielded, plenum, etc. Any information
would be most appreciated.
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Solid (to make punchdowns work), non-plenum (cheaper and fine
for residential use in most places). UTP is fine, shielded is
overkill unless you do a lot of arc welding.
-- Robert |
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Dale Farmer
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:07 am Post subject:
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Robert Redelmeier wrote:
| Quote: | donnyboy <domsmith1011_at_yahoo_dot_com@foo.com> wrote:
I was thinking of doing the same thing at home, skipping the
patch panel mostly to not have the additional cost. However,
since everyone seems to think that the RJ45 to keystone
isn't a good idea, I'll go ahead and get a patch panel.
You can build a small patch-panel equivalent very inexpensively
with a double-gange electrical box (cut out back) with two
6-keystone plates.
The one question I have is, is there a preferred cable to
use for this setup? I'm going with Cat5e, but am not sure
about solid, UTP, shielded, plenum, etc. Any information
would be most appreciated.
Solid (to make punchdowns work), non-plenum (cheaper and fine
for residential use in most places). UTP is fine, shielded is
overkill unless you do a lot of arc welding.
-- Robert
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Plenum is more expensive, because it produces less toxic smoke
when it is burned. Named after air handling plenum spaces that is
common above suspended ceiling offices. Harder to work with.
Solid works better with punchdown terminations, and is less
expensive. this is what most folks use in the walls.
Shielded is useful if you are in a RFI rich environment. Arc welders,
radio transmission towers, thermoelectric welders and so on.
--Dale |
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Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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Dale Farmer <dale@cybercom.net> wrote:
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Plenum is more expensive, because it produces less toxic smoke
when it is burned.
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A common misconception. Plenum rating has to do with *visible* smoke
and flame spreading properties, not toxicity. See:
<http://www.mohawk-cdt.com/tech/whitepapers/PlenumCableFireTesting.pdf>
-Larry Jones
I don't think math is a science, I think it's a religion. -- Calvin |
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