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Joe S.
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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I just switched from cable service to BellSouth DSL. DSL setup and
installation went perfectly and my Internet connection is fine -- browser,
e-mail, and newsgroups.
With the cable modem, I was running the cable modem into an SMC Barricade
Router. Outputs from the router went to my desktop computer and to a
wireless access point.
When I plug the output of the DSL modem into the SMC router, I cannot access
anything from my computer -- the modem and router are not recognizing each
other. The modem is a Westell model ????? provided by BellSouth. With the
CAt 5 cable from the modem going directly to the Ethernet connection on the
computer everything works fine.
Is there a trick to getting the modem and the router to work together, or,
does BellSouth configure their modems not to work through common routers
thereby forcing me to sign up for their home networking option?
Thanks
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Joe S. |
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Neil W Rickert
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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"Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net> writes:
| Quote: | When I plug the output of the DSL modem into the SMC router, I cannot access
anything from my computer -- the modem and router are not recognizing each
other. The modem is a Westell model ????? provided by BellSouth. With the
CAt 5 cable from the modem going directly to the Ethernet connection on the
computer everything works fine.
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You don't help much when you don't give the Westell model number.
The modem might already be a router, depending on model. For
example, the 2200 is a router.
If the modem is a router, one possibility is that there is a conflict
between the modem LAN address (becomes your SMC WAN address), and the
SMC LAN address. From what I know of SMC and Westell equipment, I
doubt that is your problem.
If the modem is not a router, then maybe you are running PPPoE
software on your computer. In that case, you would have to set your
SMC router to do PPPoE, and reconfigure your computer to not do
PPPoE. |
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Rick Wintjen
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:20 am Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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Joe S. wrote:
| Quote: | I just switched from cable service to BellSouth DSL. DSL setup and
installation went perfectly and my Internet connection is fine -- browser,
e-mail, and newsgroups.
With the cable modem, I was running the cable modem into an SMC Barricade
Router. Outputs from the router went to my desktop computer and to a
wireless access point.
When I plug the output of the DSL modem into the SMC router, I cannot access
anything from my computer -- the modem and router are not recognizing each
other. The modem is a Westell model ????? provided by BellSouth. With the
CAt 5 cable from the modem going directly to the Ethernet connection on the
computer everything works fine.
Is there a trick to getting the modem and the router to work together, or,
does BellSouth configure their modems not to work through common routers
thereby forcing me to sign up for their home networking option?
Thanks
Does your PC run PPPoE software when it is connected to the modem (modem |
in bridge mode)? If so, the login info that your PC uses must be entered
into the router, after it is set to use PPPoE.
If your PC is set to get an IP from the modem, the modem is performing
as a router. If this is the case, the modem should be connected to a LAN
port of the router, and the router's LAN address set to one in the
subnet of the modem (and DHCP turned off). |
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Joe S.
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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Okay -- here's another dumb question -- if my Westell DSL Router is, in
fact, a router, then instead of connecting its output to another router (my
SMC Barricade), should I get an Ethernet hub or switch, connect the
hub/switch to the output of the Westell then connect my desktop and my
wireless access point to the hub/switch?
That makes sense -- at least to one with very limited understanding of what
I'm doing!!
Thanks.
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Joe S.
"Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:danem30g0u@news4.newsguy.com...
| Quote: | I just switched from cable service to BellSouth DSL. DSL setup and
installation went perfectly and my Internet connection is fine -- browser,
e-mail, and newsgroups.
With the cable modem, I was running the cable modem into an SMC Barricade
Router. Outputs from the router went to my desktop computer and to a
wireless access point.
When I plug the output of the DSL modem into the SMC router, I cannot
access
anything from my computer -- the modem and router are not recognizing each
other. The modem is a Westell model ????? provided by BellSouth. With
the
CAt 5 cable from the modem going directly to the Ethernet connection on
the
computer everything works fine.
Is there a trick to getting the modem and the router to work together, or,
does BellSouth configure their modems not to work through common routers
thereby forcing me to sign up for their home networking option?
Thanks
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Joe S.
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Joe S.
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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"Rick Wintjen" <rwintjen@N0swbell.5P4M.net.P1E45E> wrote in message
news:oVHze.2563$Ku6.482@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
| Quote: | Joe S. wrote:
I just switched from cable service to BellSouth DSL. DSL setup and
installation went perfectly and my Internet connection is fine --
browser,
e-mail, and newsgroups.
With the cable modem, I was running the cable modem into an SMC
Barricade
Router. Outputs from the router went to my desktop computer and to a
wireless access point.
When I plug the output of the DSL modem into the SMC router, I cannot
access
anything from my computer -- the modem and router are not recognizing
each
other. The modem is a Westell model ????? provided by BellSouth. With
the
CAt 5 cable from the modem going directly to the Ethernet connection on
the
computer everything works fine.
Is there a trick to getting the modem and the router to work together,
or,
does BellSouth configure their modems not to work through common routers
thereby forcing me to sign up for their home networking option?
Thanks
Does your PC run PPPoE software when it is connected to the modem (modem
in bridge mode)? If so, the login info that your PC uses must be entered
into the router, after it is set to use PPPoE.
If your PC is set to get an IP from the modem, the modem is performing
as a router. If this is the case, the modem should be connected to a LAN
port of the router, and the router's LAN address set to one in the
subnet of the modem (and DHCP turned off).
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Not certain if the PC is running PPPoE -- where would I find that?
Modem is model # C90-610030-06. Also, the label on the modem says "DSL
Router" and the icon next to the port where the Cat 5 cable plugs in shows
three little computers -- if that means anything.
The SMC Barricade router has only a WAN port, no LAN port. Hope I don't
have to replace it as it has a parallel printer port built in that allows me
to print from both the desktop and laptop.
Somewhere in the setup for the SMC router is a set of instructions for using
PPPoE -- I'll fiddle around with it and see what happens. Thanks.
Joe S. |
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Joe S.
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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"Neil W Rickert" <rickert+nn@cs.niu.edu> wrote in message
news:danha2$2hd$1@usenet.cso.niu.edu...
| Quote: | "Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net> writes:
When I plug the output of the DSL modem into the SMC router, I cannot
access
anything from my computer -- the modem and router are not recognizing
each
other. The modem is a Westell model ????? provided by BellSouth. With
the
CAt 5 cable from the modem going directly to the Ethernet connection on
the
computer everything works fine.
You don't help much when you don't give the Westell model number.
The modem might already be a router, depending on model. For
example, the 2200 is a router.
If the modem is a router, one possibility is that there is a conflict
between the modem LAN address (becomes your SMC WAN address), and the
SMC LAN address. From what I know of SMC and Westell equipment, I
doubt that is your problem.
If the modem is not a router, then maybe you are running PPPoE
software on your computer. In that case, you would have to set your
SMC router to do PPPoE, and reconfigure your computer to not do
PPPoE.
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Sorry -- model # C90-610030-06. Also, the label on the modem says "DSL
Router" and the icon next to the port where the Cat 5 cable plugs in shows
three little computers -- if that means anything.
Somewhere in the setup for the SMC router is a set of instructions for using
PPPoE -- I'll fiddle around with it and see what happens. Thanks.
Joe S. |
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Neil W Rickert
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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"Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net> writes:
| Quote: | "Neil W Rickert" <rickert+nn@cs.niu.edu> wrote in message
news:danha2$2hd$1@usenet.cso.niu.edu...
You don't help much when you don't give the Westell model number.
Sorry -- model # C90-610030-06. Also, the label on the modem says "DSL
Router" and the icon next to the port where the Cat 5 cable plugs in shows
three little computers -- if that means anything.
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That's a 6100. It's a router. The simplest thing to do would be to
use the 6100 as your router, and put the SMC away until you find a
use for it.
| Quote: | Somewhere in the setup for the SMC router is a set of instructions for using
PPPoE -- I'll fiddle around with it and see what happens. Thanks.
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You would need to disable router functionality of the 6100. Better to
use the 6100 as router.
I think the 6100 has a LAN ip address of 192.168.1.1, and the SMC
probably has a LAN ip of 192.168.2.1. If that's correct, there
should be no conflict, and everything should work using both. But
you are better off using only the 6100 as router. |
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Neil W Rickert
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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"Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net> writes:
| Quote: | Okay -- here's another dumb question -- if my Westell DSL Router is, in
fact, a router, then instead of connecting its output to another router (my
SMC Barricade), should I get an Ethernet hub or switch, connect the
hub/switch to the output of the Westell then connect my desktop and my
wireless access point to the hub/switch?
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That's how I am using my Westell 2200 (verizon version). It works fine.
The 6100 should work the same way for you. |
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John Jones
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 06:38:58 -0500, "Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net>
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| Quote: | The SMC Barricade router has only a WAN port, no LAN port.
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You must be mistaken: I've never seen a router without LAN ports.
John Jones, Detroit |
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Joe S.
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:42 pm Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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"John Jones" <jjetroit000@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:k000d1hun0kdlmp5726u85t7rc0h9f0l6k@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 06:38:58 -0500, "Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net
wrote:
The SMC Barricade router has only a WAN port, no LAN port.
You must be mistaken: I've never seen a router without LAN ports.
John Jones, Detroit
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The SMC Barricade router, model MSC7004ABR has the following ports/jacks:
-- Power
-- WAN (input from the modem)
-- Parallel port (to printer)
-- Serial port (for connecting a dial-up modem)
-- Ports 1, 2, 3, and 4 (for connecting computers, access points, etc.)
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Joe S. |
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Joe S.
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Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:38 am Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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"Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:danem30g0u@news4.newsguy.com...
| Quote: | I just switched from cable service to BellSouth DSL. DSL setup and
installation went perfectly and my Internet connection is fine -- browser,
e-mail, and newsgroups.
With the cable modem, I was running the cable modem into an SMC Barricade
Router. Outputs from the router went to my desktop computer and to a
wireless access point.
When I plug the output of the DSL modem into the SMC router, I cannot
access
anything from my computer -- the modem and router are not recognizing each
other. The modem is a Westell model ????? provided by BellSouth. With
the
CAt 5 cable from the modem going directly to the Ethernet connection on
the
computer everything works fine.
Is there a trick to getting the modem and the router to work together, or,
does BellSouth configure their modems not to work through common routers
thereby forcing me to sign up for their home networking option?
Thanks
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Joe S.
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Thanks to all who replied. I'm not certain what I did but here it is:
-- Got a LinkSys 5-port hub and a LinkSys Wireless-G print server.
-- Plugged the output from the DSL modem/router into the Uplink port of the
hub.
-- Ran a Cat 5 cable from one port of the hub to the Ethernet card in the
desktop PC.
-- Another Cat 5 cable from one port of the hub to my Wireless G access
point.
-- Bingo - browser and e-mail on the desktop work through the hub and the
DSL modem/router.
-- Followed the instructions and set up the print server.
-- Desktop PC prints through the network.
-- Laptop PC, with a Wireless G card, talks to the access point, accesses
Internet and e-mail and prints through the print server or the network --
who cares, it prints.
Life is good. Now if I could just get out of the path of this hurricane.
We're stocked with two big jugs each of scotch, Jack Daniels, and gin plus
assorted mixers and 8 cases of beer, 6 cans of Dinty Moore beef stew, 20
gallons of gas, one 5kw generator, and 20 gallons of water to flush the
toilet. Have I forgotten anything?
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Joe S.
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Rick Wintjen
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Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:40 am Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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Joe S. wrote:
| Quote: | "Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:danem30g0u@news4.newsguy.com...
I just switched from cable service to BellSouth DSL. DSL setup and
installation went perfectly and my Internet connection is fine -- browser,
e-mail, and newsgroups.
With the cable modem, I was running the cable modem into an SMC Barricade
Router. Outputs from the router went to my desktop computer and to a
wireless access point.
When I plug the output of the DSL modem into the SMC router, I cannot
access
anything from my computer -- the modem and router are not recognizing each
other. The modem is a Westell model ????? provided by BellSouth. With
the
CAt 5 cable from the modem going directly to the Ethernet connection on
the
computer everything works fine.
Is there a trick to getting the modem and the router to work together, or,
does BellSouth configure their modems not to work through common routers
thereby forcing me to sign up for their home networking option?
Thanks
--
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Joe S.
Thanks to all who replied. I'm not certain what I did but here it is:
-- Got a LinkSys 5-port hub and a LinkSys Wireless-G print server.
-- Plugged the output from the DSL modem/router into the Uplink port of the
hub.
-- Ran a Cat 5 cable from one port of the hub to the Ethernet card in the
desktop PC.
-- Another Cat 5 cable from one port of the hub to my Wireless G access
point.
-- Bingo - browser and e-mail on the desktop work through the hub and the
DSL modem/router.
-- Followed the instructions and set up the print server.
-- Desktop PC prints through the network.
-- Laptop PC, with a Wireless G card, talks to the access point, accesses
Internet and e-mail and prints through the print server or the network --
who cares, it prints.
Life is good. Now if I could just get out of the path of this hurricane.
We're stocked with two big jugs each of scotch, Jack Daniels, and gin plus
assorted mixers and 8 cases of beer, 6 cans of Dinty Moore beef stew, 20
gallons of gas, one 5kw generator, and 20 gallons of water to flush the
toilet. Have I forgotten anything?
Hope you got your money back on the SMC. If not, you can use it as a |
backup AP.
BTW, ports labeled 1,2,3,4 on it are the LAN ports. You could have used
it as your switch and access point by disabling the router functions and
setting it's LAN side address to the same range as the modem/router,
that is, the first three numbers have to match, and the last is unique.
Problem solved, anyway. |
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Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: DSL modem and SMC Barricade router |
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On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:01:26 -0500, "Joe S." <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I just switched from cable service to BellSouth DSL. DSL setup and
installation went perfectly and my Internet connection is fine -- browser,
e-mail, and newsgroups.
With the cable modem, I was running the cable modem into an SMC Barricade
Router. Outputs from the router went to my desktop computer and to a
wireless access point.
When I plug the output of the DSL modem into the SMC router, I cannot access
anything from my computer -- the modem and router are not recognizing each
other. The modem is a Westell model ????? provided by BellSouth. With the
CAt 5 cable from the modem going directly to the Ethernet connection on the
computer everything works fine.
Is there a trick to getting the modem and the router to work together, or,
does BellSouth configure their modems not to work through common routers
thereby forcing me to sign up for their home networking option?
Thanks
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Joe,
your connection is reverse of mine.
I have a wireless router between the computer and BS modem (Westell 2200).
The modem connects to the telco line.
All telephones, at least here, need to be plugged into a filter then to the
phone jack.
I had a problem with the router one day after a month of using it. had to call
the wireless router company to get back on track.
Good luck. |
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