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L. Hummel
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Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Creating a new network with cabling and wall outlets in 2 bu |
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Hi everybody,
I am quite new to networking, and I need to set up a network of PCs spread out
on two buildings. Building 1 is with 4 floors, and Building 2 with a single
floor.
I want the cabling to be based on wall outlets, with one 2-connector outlet at
each of the floors in Building 1, except on the top floor where only a single
outlet is needed. In building 2 I want one 4-connector outlet (or two
2-connector outlets). I have made a topology diagram below:
Building 1 Building 2
Floor 2 PCs Wall outlets
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------- | --- |
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------- | --- |
-----
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Floor 1 |
| ------- -------
--------- | | | |
------- | --- --- | ------- -------
| |------|| 1 | 2 || ------- -------
------- | --- --- | | | | |
--------- ------- -------
| | |
Floor 0 | \ /
| \ /
--------- --------\ /------
------- | --- --- | | --- --- --- --- |
| |------|| 1 | 2 || || 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 ||
------- | --- --- | | --- --- --- --- |
--------- -----------------
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Basement | | Subnet 192.168.0.0
| |
--------- |
------- | --- --- | -------
| |------|| 1 | 2 || ------| |
------- | --- --- | | -------
--------- |
| | Subnet 192.168.1.0
| |
----------- ---------------
|Cable modem|---|Firewall/Switch|
----------- ---------------
The network should connect to the Internet via a Cable modem and a Firewall/
Switch of the type 3Com® OfficeConnect® VPN Firewall (details can be found
on the following link) :
http://www.3com.com/prod/en_UK_EMEA/detail.jsp?tab=features&sku=3CR870-95
Inside the Firewall, the network is equipped with a 3Com® OfficeConnect®
Gigabit Switch 5 - described on the following link:
http://www.3com.com/prod/en_EU_EMEA/detail.jsp?tab=features&sku=3C1670500A
Now, the question is: How do I construct this network with the fewest
possible cables running - especially between the two buildings? How do I
interconnect the wall outlets? Besides the normal STP cables as well as
the connectors for the wall outlets, what hardware is needed?
I appreciate any answers. Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
L. Hummel, Denmark |
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Al Dykes
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Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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In article <1118757745.618374.131530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Justin Time <a_user2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | For between the buildings, use fiber with an Ethernet switch to drive
the station cables. Two cables to each workstation outlet should be
the minimum. I recommend 3, one phone, one dedicated to Ethernet and
the third that can be used for either voice or data. You never know
when you are going to need a second phone line or a networked printer
in a space that has its network and phone cables in use. Besides,
cable is relatively inexpensive - it is the labor to install,
terminate, and test that is the expensive part of any installation.
Oh, for the fiber, a minimum of 6 strands, even if you only use two,
you never know when you will need more capacity or have more
applications that have to flow between the buildings.
Rodgers Platt
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Why did you delete the OP question ? There is more and more of this
recently all over Usent. I suspect the new verison of some software
has this as a default. Nothing personal.
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Justin Time
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Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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For between the buildings, use fiber with an Ethernet switch to drive
the station cables. Two cables to each workstation outlet should be
the minimum. I recommend 3, one phone, one dedicated to Ethernet and
the third that can be used for either voice or data. You never know
when you are going to need a second phone line or a networked printer
in a space that has its network and phone cables in use. Besides,
cable is relatively inexpensive - it is the labor to install,
terminate, and test that is the expensive part of any installation.
Oh, for the fiber, a minimum of 6 strands, even if you only use two,
you never know when you will need more capacity or have more
applications that have to flow between the buildings.
Rodgers Platt |
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Justin Time
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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Al,
I didn't delete anything. I just clicked on reply - as I did with your
message - using Google Groups. |
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Al Dykes
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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In article <1118843266.398210.13360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Justin Time <a_user2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Al,
I didn't delete anything. I just clicked on reply - as I did with your
message - using Google Groups.
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Well, it's not including the message you are responding to and that is
not good,
What software are you using ?
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Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. |
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Mike Hunt
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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On 2005-06-15, Al Dykes <adykes@panix.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <1118843266.398210.13360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Justin Time <a_user2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Al,
I didn't delete anything. I just clicked on reply - as I did with your
message - using Google Groups.
Well, it's not including the message you are responding to and that is
not good,
What software are you using ?
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He's using Google Groups, just incorrectly.
When you want to respond to a message, DON'T hit the Reply link - it is
busted for any real Usenet purpose. Instead, hit the 'show options' and
select Reply from there.
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This is my .sig |
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Justin
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Creating a new network with cabling and wall outlets in |
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L. Hummel wrote:
| Quote: | Hi everybody,
I am quite new to networking, and I need to set up a network of PCs spread out
on two buildings. Building 1 is with 4 floors, and Building 2 with a single
floor.
I want the cabling to be based on wall outlets, with one 2-connector outlet at
each of the floors in Building 1, except on the top floor where only a single
outlet is needed. In building 2 I want one 4-connector outlet (or two
2-connector outlets). I have made a topology diagram below:
Building 1 Building 2
Floor 2 PCs Wall outlets
-----
------- | --- |
| |------|| 1 ||
------- | --- |
-----
|
Floor 1 |
| ------- -------
--------- | | | |
------- | --- --- | ------- -------
| |------|| 1 | 2 || ------- -------
------- | --- --- | | | | |
--------- ------- -------
| | |
Floor 0 | \ /
| \ /
--------- --------\ /------
------- | --- --- | | --- --- --- --- |
| |------|| 1 | 2 || || 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 ||
------- | --- --- | | --- --- --- --- |
--------- -----------------
| |
Basement | | Subnet 192.168.0.0
| |
--------- |
------- | --- --- | -------
| |------|| 1 | 2 || ------| |
------- | --- --- | | -------
--------- |
| | Subnet 192.168.1.0
| |
----------- ---------------
|Cable modem|---|Firewall/Switch|
----------- ---------------
The network should connect to the Internet via a Cable modem and a Firewall/
Switch of the type 3Com® OfficeConnect® VPN Firewall (details can be found
on the following link) :
http://www.3com.com/prod/en_UK_EMEA/detail.jsp?tab=features&sku=3CR870-95
Inside the Firewall, the network is equipped with a 3Com® OfficeConnect®
Gigabit Switch 5 - described on the following link:
http://www.3com.com/prod/en_EU_EMEA/detail.jsp?tab=features&sku=3C1670500A
Now, the question is: How do I construct this network with the fewest
possible cables running - especially between the two buildings? How do I
interconnect the wall outlets? Besides the normal STP cables as well as
the connectors for the wall outlets, what hardware is needed?
I appreciate any answers. Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
L. Hummel, Denmark
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Sounds like you need to hire a telecom cabling engineer to design the
infrastructure and an appropriately qualified contractor to install it
(could be the same person). Any cabling project larger than a couple
drops, to be done properly is not a DIY project. Hire a professional,
you'll be happier with the results (meaning it might actually work) and
you'll only have to pay once to get it done (assuming you go with a
quality installer as opposed to the cheapest).
Justin |
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L. Hummel
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Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Creating a new network with cabling and wall outlets in |
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Justin <jtoddDELETETHIS5dot1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<OFZre.33$W4.19847@okeanos.csu.net>...
| Quote: | L. Hummel wrote:
Hi everybody,
I am quite new to networking, and I need to set up a network of PCs spread out
on two buildings. Building 1 is with 4 floors, and Building 2 with a single
floor.
I want the cabling to be based on wall outlets, with one 2-connector outlet at
each of the floors in Building 1, except on the top floor where only a single
outlet is needed. In building 2 I want one 4-connector outlet (or two
2-connector outlets). I have made a topology diagram below:
Building 1 Building 2
Floor 2 PCs Wall outlets
-----
------- | --- |
| |------|| 1 ||
------- | --- |
-----
|
Floor 1 |
| ------- -------
--------- | | | |
------- | --- --- | ------- -------
| |------|| 1 | 2 || ------- -------
------- | --- --- | | | | |
--------- ------- -------
| | |
Floor 0 | \ /
| \ /
--------- --------\ /------
------- | --- --- | | --- --- --- --- |
| |------|| 1 | 2 || || 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 ||
------- | --- --- | | --- --- --- --- |
--------- -----------------
| |
Basement | | Subnet 192.168.0.0
| |
--------- |
------- | --- --- | -------
| |------|| 1 | 2 || ------| |
------- | --- --- | | -------
--------- |
| | Subnet 192.168.1.0
| |
----------- ---------------
|Cable modem|---|Firewall/Switch|
----------- ---------------
The network should connect to the Internet via a Cable modem and a Firewall/
Switch of the type 3Com® OfficeConnect® VPN Firewall (details can be found
on the following link) :
http://www.3com.com/prod/en_UK_EMEA/detail.jsp?tab=features&sku=3CR870-95
Inside the Firewall, the network is equipped with a 3Com® OfficeConnect®
Gigabit Switch 5 - described on the following link:
http://www.3com.com/prod/en_EU_EMEA/detail.jsp?tab=features&sku=3C1670500A
Now, the question is: How do I construct this network with the fewest
possible cables running - especially between the two buildings? How do I
interconnect the wall outlets? Besides the normal STP cables as well as
the connectors for the wall outlets, what hardware is needed?
I appreciate any answers. Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
L. Hummel, Denmark
Sounds like you need to hire a telecom cabling engineer to design the
infrastructure and an appropriately qualified contractor to install it
(could be the same person). Any cabling project larger than a couple
drops, to be done properly is not a DIY project. Hire a professional,
you'll be happier with the results (meaning it might actually work) and
you'll only have to pay once to get it done (assuming you go with a
quality installer as opposed to the cheapest).
Justin
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Hi all;
I think I got the information I needed - thank you all for your help.
Best regards,
L. Hummel, Denmark |
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