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Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
Network in new house |
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Hi there folkes,
I'm currently in the process of adding an extension to my home and I'm
interested in adding network connections in each bedroom.
At the moment I connect to the internet using a 56k modem via my
telephone line. Depending on where in the house the internet is needed,
we have to run a long phone cable from the telephone's wall socket to
the room in question.
I'm also trying to establish at the moment if broadband is available in
my location - I think it is, or will be soon. A friend of mine has it
and his telephone company (the same as mine) supplied him with a
netopia 3341 asdl modem which he connects to his telephone line.
http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/Netopia_3341/3341/713226/
This device has an a Ethernet, a dsl, and a usb interface. I've had a
look at the various PCs and laptops in my house and two of the PCs have
a
Intel PRO/100 VE Network Controller, one has a
Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller (also has a Intel PRO /
Wireless 2200BG N C) , and another has a
Via Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adaptor.
My PC has no LAN connection but I have usb connections and I could
always buy an adapter for it.
We also have a Belkin 802.11g - 54Mbps wireless usb net adaptor.
As far as I can figure out, the Netopia is for use with a single PC.
I think I'm also right in saying that I have two options here, one is
an ethernet LAN and the second is a wireless network. Can anyone
suggest which is the most sensible for my situation?
Lets say I was to go with a Lan. I think I'm right in saying that this
will require a star topology with one room acting as the hub. I will
then need to install rj-45 sockets in each room, with each of these
rooms then connected to the hub room, using UTP (10baseT) cables,
correct? Therefore the hub room will need multiple rj-45 sockets
installed in the wall, in order for each room to connect separately to
the hub, correct? I would therefore need to install a wall plate
similar to this -
http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=4336&PRICECOMPARISONSID=33022f1f8157b47bd61f026d9e3fac5c
I will also need to install the telephone line in the hub room so that
I can interface it to the internet connection. My friend also got an
In-Line DSL Filter with his internet connection package.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=112632
So I could use this to split my telephone line, in order to continue
using my telephone as normal and direct the ASDL to the hub room. Am I
making sense?
An electrician is calling out during the week and he will be installing
the conduits etc. for the light switches, before the walls are
plastered, so I'd need to make up my mind pretty fast as to whether I
need him to add conduits to carry the utp cables to the rj-45 network
ports etc.
If anyone can offer me advice, or correct me on any of the information
I gave above, I'd love to hear it. Any suggestions regarding a hub
(switch). I think I will be connecting 5 rooms in total to the hub
room.
Thanks,
Barry. |
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Ed Nielsen
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Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
Re: Network in new house |
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bg_ie@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Hi there folkes,
I'm currently in the process of adding an extension to my home and I'm
interested in adding network connections in each bedroom.
At the moment I connect to the internet using a 56k modem via my
telephone line. Depending on where in the house the internet is needed,
we have to run a long phone cable from the telephone's wall socket to
the room in question.
I'm also trying to establish at the moment if broadband is available in
my location - I think it is, or will be soon. A friend of mine has it
and his telephone company (the same as mine) supplied him with a
netopia 3341 asdl modem which he connects to his telephone line.
http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/Netopia_3341/3341/713226/
This device has an a Ethernet, a dsl, and a usb interface. I've had a
look at the various PCs and laptops in my house and two of the PCs have
a
Intel PRO/100 VE Network Controller, one has a
Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller (also has a Intel PRO /
Wireless 2200BG N C) , and another has a
Via Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adaptor.
My PC has no LAN connection but I have usb connections and I could
always buy an adapter for it.
We also have a Belkin 802.11g - 54Mbps wireless usb net adaptor.
As far as I can figure out, the Netopia is for use with a single PC.
I think I'm also right in saying that I have two options here, one is
an ethernet LAN and the second is a wireless network. Can anyone
suggest which is the most sensible for my situation?
Lets say I was to go with a Lan. I think I'm right in saying that this
will require a star topology with one room acting as the hub. I will
then need to install rj-45 sockets in each room, with each of these
rooms then connected to the hub room, using UTP (10baseT) cables,
correct? Therefore the hub room will need multiple rj-45 sockets
installed in the wall, in order for each room to connect separately to
the hub, correct? I would therefore need to install a wall plate
similar to this -
http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=4336&PRICECOMPARISONSID=33022f1f8157b47bd61f026d9e3fac5c
I will also need to install the telephone line in the hub room so that
I can interface it to the internet connection. My friend also got an
In-Line DSL Filter with his internet connection package.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=112632
So I could use this to split my telephone line, in order to continue
using my telephone as normal and direct the ASDL to the hub room. Am I
making sense?
An electrician is calling out during the week and he will be installing
the conduits etc. for the light switches, before the walls are
plastered, so I'd need to make up my mind pretty fast as to whether I
need him to add conduits to carry the utp cables to the rj-45 network
ports etc.
If anyone can offer me advice, or correct me on any of the information
I gave above, I'd love to hear it. Any suggestions regarding a hub
(switch). I think I will be connecting 5 rooms in total to the hub
room.
Thanks,
Barry.
Run 2 RG 6 coax and 2 CAT5e cables to each room from a central location. |
That will be the center of your star topology. Your cable TV,
telephone, and network will originate at that point.
I would suggest running a CAT5e from the telephone demarc to your
"hubroom" and placing the DSL filter there, with the "phone" port going
to a punchdown block for the telephone cables to your new rooms, and the
"DSL/HPN" port going to your Netopia 3341, which will then go out to
your outlets. You will probably need to place a switch on one of the
ports of your 3341, as it only has a 4-port switch and you are going to
have 5 network outlets.
CIAO!
Ed N. |
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Dale Farmer
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Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:33 am Post subject:
Re: Network in new house |
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Ed Nielsen wrote:
| Quote: | bg_ie@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi there folkes,
I'm currently in the process of adding an extension to my home and I'm
interested in adding network connections in each bedroom.
Run 2 RG 6 coax and 2 CAT5e cables to each room from a central location.
That will be the center of your star topology. Your cable TV,
telephone, and network will originate at that point.
I would suggest running a CAT5e from the telephone demarc to your
"hubroom" and placing the DSL filter there, with the "phone" port going
to a punchdown block for the telephone cables to your new rooms, and the
"DSL/HPN" port going to your Netopia 3341, which will then go out to
your outlets. You will probably need to place a switch on one of the
ports of your 3341, as it only has a 4-port switch and you are going to
have 5 network outlets.
CIAO!
Ed N.
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Rather than run cables everywhere, I'd run empty conduit everywhere
from a central location where you can put your central electronics. You
can do plastic conduit easily yourself, the only tool you need is a saw and
a hammer. Leave the empty boxes behind the unbroken plaster, and
put an iron nail in each corner of the box so you can locate it with a
magnetic stud-finder later. Staple a copy of the as-built drawing to the
wall in your wiring closet area showing the box locations.
When you need some sort of cable someplace, locate the nearest
available box and cut through the wall to gain access to the box. Pull in
the cable and slap a wall plate with connector on it. Do be careful to
maintain fire stops.
--Dale |
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James Knott
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Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:49 am Post subject:
Re: Network in new house |
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bg_ie@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Lets say I was to go with a Lan. I think I'm right in saying that this
will require a star topology with one room acting as the hub. I will
then need to install rj-45 sockets in each room, with each of these
rooms then connected to the hub room, using UTP (10baseT) cables,
correct? Therefore the hub room will need multiple rj-45 sockets
installed in the wall, in order for each room to connect separately to
the hub, correct? I would therefore need to install a wall plate
similar to this -
http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=4336&PRICECOMPARISONSID=33022f1f8157b47bd61f026d9e3fac5c
I will also need to install the telephone line in the hub room so that
I can interface it to the internet connection. My friend also got an
In-Line DSL Filter with his internet connection package.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=112632
So I could use this to split my telephone line, in order to continue
using my telephone as normal and direct the ASDL to the hub room. Am I
making sense?
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Run cat 5 to the desired locations. WiFi is fine for those locations where
you can't run cable. You can get patch panels, where you can terminate
several cables. The cat 5 cable can be used for lan, phone and adsl.
Place the filter near where the phone line enters, then connect the adsl
modem to a firewall/router box and then from the box to the jacks. You may
need an additional switch or hub, if your firewall/router doesn't have
sufficient ports. You can use the same cat5 cable for both ethernet
(except gigabit) and phone. |
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Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Network in new house |
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Thanks very much for your help everyone. I have one problem remaining.
I can get my hands on a single or double Cat5 modular wall plate easily
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http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=12114&doy=13m6
But in the hub room I will need at least 5 rj-45 plugs connecting each
of the rooms to the hub. How should I handle this? I was trying to
locate a 6 gang Cat5 Wall Plate but they seem impossible to find. Any
other tidy way I might approach this?
Cheers,
Barry.
James Knott wrote:
| Quote: | bg_ie@yahoo.com wrote:
Lets say I was to go with a Lan. I think I'm right in saying that this
will require a star topology with one room acting as the hub. I will
then need to install rj-45 sockets in each room, with each of these
rooms then connected to the hub room, using UTP (10baseT) cables,
correct? Therefore the hub room will need multiple rj-45 sockets
installed in the wall, in order for each room to connect separately to
the hub, correct? I would therefore need to install a wall plate
similar to this -
http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=4336&PRICECOMPARISONSID=33022f1f8157b47bd61f026d9e3fac5c
I will also need to install the telephone line in the hub room so that
I can interface it to the internet connection. My friend also got an
In-Line DSL Filter with his internet connection package.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=112632
So I could use this to split my telephone line, in order to continue
using my telephone as normal and direct the ASDL to the hub room. Am I
making sense?
Run cat 5 to the desired locations. WiFi is fine for those locations where
you can't run cable. You can get patch panels, where you can terminate
several cables. The cat 5 cable can be used for lan, phone and adsl.
Place the filter near where the phone line enters, then connect the adsl
modem to a firewall/router box and then from the box to the jacks. You may
need an additional switch or hub, if your firewall/router doesn't have
sufficient ports. You can use the same cat5 cable for both ethernet
(except gigabit) and phone. |
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James Knott
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Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Network in new house |
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bg_ie@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks very much for your help everyone. I have one problem remaining.
I can get my hands on a single or double Cat5 modular wall plate easily
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http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=12114&doy=13m6
But in the hub room I will need at least 5 rj-45 plugs connecting each
of the rooms to the hub. How should I handle this? I was trying to
locate a 6 gang Cat5 Wall Plate but they seem impossible to find. Any
other tidy way I might approach this?
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Any place that sells networking stuff should have the various keystone
modules, panel, boxes etc. I've seen boxes that hold several modules.
Another possibility, is a patch panel, where you bring the cables into one
side and the jacks appear on the other. There are also wall plates that
handle two or three modules. Any reason why you couldn't use multiple
plates?
You can get some ideas from here:
http://www.aedwis.com/cat5.html |
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