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Nik Futter
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Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Private ILS server substitute |
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Does anybody know how to install a private ILS server substitute ? Most
public ILS servers are overfilled with sex webcams. I would like to
establish an own one for friends. I have read that I would need a server
with "Windows 2000 Server" for this. This could be installed in a local
network and the firewall of the router must given free path through. But
1st I do not have "Windows 2000 Server" and 2nd I don't like to run a
separate computer day and night.
Is there any alternative ? E.g. go over a web page?
As a solution trial I imagined:
There are some PHP scripts on the basis of "Counters" which save the
IP-address of visitors of a web page in a MySQL database (to count how
many visitors are just online on this web page) and delete this
IP-addresses after a configurable time (e.g. 10 minutes). The Login name
then should be saved there, too. An internet page then can display all
users with IP-address who are just online.
In addition a batch file would be necessary on the respective client
computer which writes down the user IP-address on the database
automatically whenever he is online and repeats this entry e.g. every 10
minutes. It would be better (more simply) when the user can use the
service "directory logon" of Netmeeting for this.
Can help somebody and mention scripts to me, which are be able to do
this or easy can be modified ? |
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Brian Sullivan
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Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:24:10 +0200, Nik Futter wrote:
| Quote: | Does anybody know how to install a private ILS server substitute ? Most
public ILS servers are overfilled with sex webcams. I would like to
establish an own one for friends. I have read that I would need a server
with "Windows 2000 Server" for this. This could be installed in a local
network and the firewall of the router must given free path through. But
1st I do not have "Windows 2000 Server" and 2nd I don't like to run a
separate computer day and night.
Is there any alternative ? E.g. go over a web page?
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The only option that I know of for an ILS on a Microsoft product is using a
Win2000 server -- so if you have no access to such a server you are
probably out of luck.
As to whether you have to run it day and night -- you would only have to
run it when the service was required.
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As a solution trial I imagined:
There are some PHP scripts on the basis of "Counters" which save the
IP-address of visitors of a web page in a MySQL database (to count how
many visitors are just online on this web page) and delete this
IP-addresses after a configurable time (e.g. 10 minutes). The Login name
then should be saved there, too. An internet page then can display all
users with IP-address who are just online.
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That basic strategy would work -- it would have to be based on a browser
visit. There are some web based directories for NetMeeting that use that
strategy (Neil Smith's Fresh Toast -
http://www.fresh-toast.uklinux.net/netmeeting/index.html is a sample).
This still requires that you run an accessible server of some kind for all
the time the service is required.
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In addition a batch file would be necessary on the respective client
computer which writes down the user IP-address on the database
automatically whenever he is online and repeats this entry e.g. every 10
minutes. It would be better (more simply) when the user can use the
service "directory logon" of Netmeeting for this.
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I can't think of anyway that NetMeeting can be directly involved in this --
it would have to be browser visit based.
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Can help somebody and mention scripts to me, which are be able to do
this or easy can be modified ?
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I don't think there is any set of canned php or other server script around
to do this. |
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Nik Futter
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Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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On search for an ILS server substitute for my own I now have build
the following "work around":
The free, German program "Netmeeting-Connector" offers as a base the
following function: Either a "Netmeeting.cnf" or a "Netmeeting.txt" file
which contains my own IP-address will be send by FTP every 2 minutes
onto my own web page. I can install a link on the home page with one of
this two Netmeeting files so that visitors of the internet page only
need to select the link and Netmeeting then tries to build up a
connection to this IP-address. Quite good before, if someone wants to
offer his services as a Netmeeting interlocutor. But many of my friends
don't have an own internet page and therefore cannot offer this link at
all. And even if they would have a web page of their own I had to go
from website to website to see if there is someone online.
So now I have created the following "service" for my friends:
On my own web page I have created a subdirectory for every friend. At my
Webspace I can allocate a FTP-Login with Login name and password for
each subdirectory. Now each of my friends can upload its Netmeeting file
with "Netmeeting-Connector" by FTP into "his" directory. This goes
automatically with "Netmeeting-Connector" in 2 minutes intervals. On a
separate HTML page I list all my friends and their current IP-address
with date and time of the last Netmeeting file in a table. I also have
decorated the table with small photos and names and direct link to
Netmeeting (for a short time: see this screenshot
www.forum.ccsev.de/Netmeeting.jpg). And I also have installed a PHP
routine which deletes all Netmeeting files which are older than 2
minutes from the HTML overview page. So everyone can see at once who is
still online or not.
Of course the whole is still quite circumstantial. Because I must
manually change the HTML overview page with another table line every
time when new friends joining (although this is quite simply with "Copy
and paste"). It would be natural better if the whole overview page could
be generated from a MySQL database. But for this I first must find a
program that works similarly like "Netmeeting-Connector". But the
"logon" should not be made as FTP-Uplaod of a file but as an entry in
the MySQL database.
This "Netmeeting-Connector" substitute then also should support the
function that it recognize whether an Internet connection already exist
or not. Otherwise dialing-up users who don't have permanent Internet
connection will always get a dial-in window when updating their
IP-Address. |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:51:49 +0200, "Nik Futter" <spam@unawave.de>
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| Quote: | Of course the whole is still quite circumstantial. Because I must
manually change the HTML overview page with another table line every
time when new friends joining (although this is quite simply with "Copy
and paste"). It would be natural better if the whole overview page could
be generated from a MySQL database. But for this I first must find a
program that works similarly like "Netmeeting-Connector". But the
"logon" should not be made as FTP-Uplaod of a file but as an entry in
the MySQL database.
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All the points you mention have been addressed (as Brian said) at
http://www.fresh-toast.net : You're welcome to use it as you wish.
Also, note that you may add contacts who are online to a 'buddy list',
and send email invites (which also adds the invitee to your buddy list
when they get an account name). Contacts on your buddy list can then
meet in your private room, which is not publically accessible.
The whole lot runs off MySQL/PHP with about a 3 minute timeout cycle
of page refreshes. No need to upload .cnf files (in fact the site can
generate a .cnf file for you if you need to email it to somebody).
So it would save you a lot of work to just use this rather than
reinvent it ;-)
Cheers - Neil |
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Nik Futter
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Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:28 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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| Quote: | All the points you mention have been addressed (as Brian said) at
http://www.fresh-toast.net : You're welcome to use it as you wish.
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Thank you for you answer.
| Quote: | The whole lot runs off MySQL/PHP with about a 3 minute timeout cycle
of page refreshes.
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I read on your page:
| Quote: | If you log out or leave the site for more than 15 minutes, your
display entry will not be visible until you return.
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So the user must be logged in to been shown as "online".
Many of my friends don't want every time, when they are connected to the
internet, go to your homepage, log in and keep your homepage permanently
open. With my "quick and dirty" solutions they have nothing to do - only
run the program "Netmeeting-Connector" as a resident background program
every time when the PC starts. And, when they are connected to the
internet, they are shown the whole time as "online". And this is it what
they want. They always can go to my homepage and see: Who is online and
ready for a video chat. |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:28:04 +0200, "Nik Futter" <spam@unawave.de>
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| Quote: | All the points you mention have been addressed (as Brian said) at
http://www.fresh-toast.net : You're welcome to use it as you wish.
Thank you for you answer.
The whole lot runs off MySQL/PHP with about a 3 minute timeout cycle
of page refreshes.
I read on your page:
If you log out or leave the site for more than 15 minutes, your
display entry will not be visible until you return.
So the user must be logged in to been shown as "online".
Many of my friends don't want every time, when they are connected to the
internet, go to your homepage, log in and keep your homepage permanently
open. With my "quick and dirty" solutions they have nothing to do - only
run the program "Netmeeting-Connector" as a resident background program
every time when the PC starts. And, when they are connected to the
internet, they are shown the whole time as "online". And this is it what
they want. They always can go to my homepage and see: Who is online and
ready for a video chat.
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Well sure, but are you awake 24 hours a day ? Because, you said
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"Of course the whole is still quite circumstantial. Because I must
manually change the HTML overview page with another table line every
time when new friends joining (although this is quite simply with
"Copy and paste")
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So unless you are awake 24 hours per day, how will you achieve the
copy & paste ? That's what computers are for ;-))
Cheers - Neil |
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Nik Futter
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Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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| Quote: | Well sure, but are you awake 24 hours a day ? Because, you said
"Of course the whole is still quite circumstantial. Because I must
manually change the HTML overview page with another table line every
time when new friends joining (although this is quite simply with
"Copy and paste")
So unless you are awake 24 hours per day, how will you achieve the
copy & paste ? That's what computers are for ;-))
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Of course I'm not awake 24 hours a day.
My intervention confines itself in creating new access data (create FTP
folder, login name and password and add one line to the HTML overview
site). Because I only have a limited amount of users (now 6, later
perhaps 20 ?) I can do it every time if necessary (when I'm awake). The
"online" status is set automatically by the user who is using the
program "Netmeeting-Connector".
It's not so comfortable like your solution, where users can register day
and night.
But it's more comfortable for the user because they do not need to
login. |
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Nik Futter
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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I still want to try to build an easy substitute for a private
"ILS"-Server – without need for running a "Windows 2003 Server".
Is it possible to let "Netmeetings directory service" point to a private
Website ? E.G. to "mydomain.com:80" instead of
"ils.netmeeting1.de" (port 389) ?
Can a PHP site of "mydomain.com" answer the request from Netmeeting with
data from my own MySQL database ?
I modified a PHP script so that I have access to the data of an public
ILS server (see script below). But what "communication" exist between
"Netmeeting" and a regular ILS server ? I read that this communication
runs with protocol "LDAP". Is it possible that a PHP site can
communicate with "Netmeetings directory service" and answer the requests
in the right way ?
Script for access to ILS servers. Try:
ils.netmeeting24.de
ils.nt-gmbh.de (IP is always 0.0.0.0)
ils.eunet.fi (long timeouts: 20 Min, no Audio/Video indicator)
<HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY>
<?php
// basic sequence with LDAP is connect, bind, search,
// interpret search result, close connection
echo "<h3>LDAP query test</h3>";
echo "Connecting ...";
$ds=ldap_connect("ils.netmeeting24.de","389" ); // must be a valid LDAP
server!
echo "connect result is ".$ds."<p>";
if ($ds) {
echo "Binding ...";
$r=ldap_bind($ds); // this is an "anonymous" bind, typically read-only access
echo "Bind result is ".$r."<p>";
// Search
$sr=ldap_search($ds,"objectclass=rtperson","cn=%");
echo "Number of entires returned is ".ldap_count_entries($ds,$sr)."<p>";
echo "Getting entries ...<p>";
$info = ldap_get_entries($ds, $sr);
echo "Data for ".$info["count"]." items returned:<p>";
for ($i=0; $i<$info["count"]; $i++) {
echo "Entry: " . $i ."<br>";
echo "dn is: ". $info[$i]["dn"] ."<br>";
echo "first cn entry is: ". $info[$i]["cn"][0] ."<br>";
echo "first email entry is: ". $info[$i]["mail"][0] ."<br>";
echo "next timeout in minutes: ". $info[$i]["sttl"][0] ."<br>";
echo "sipaddress: ". $info[$i]["sipaddress"][0];
list($a, $b, $c, $d) = explode(".", long2ip ($info[$i]["sipaddress"][0]));
echo " (".$d.".".$c.".".$b.".".$a.")<br>";
echo "personal/business/adult?: ". $info[$i]["ilsa39321630"][0] ."<br>";
echo "audio capable?: ". $info[$i]["ilsa32833566"][0] ."<br>";
echo "video capable?: ". $info[$i]["ilsa32964638"][0] ."<br>";
echo "in a call?: ". $info[$i]["ilsa26214430"][0] ."<br>";
echo "comment: ". $info[$i]["comment"][0] ."<p>";
}
echo "Closing connection";
ldap_close($ds); }
else { echo "<h4>Unable to connect to LDAP server</h4>"; }
?>
</BODY></HTML> |
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Brian Sullivan
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:16:00 +0200, Nik Futter wrote:
| Quote: | I still want to try to build an easy substitute for a private
"ILS"-Server ¡V without need for running a "Windows 2003 Server".
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Windows 2003 server doesn't have an available ILS server -- are you
thinking 2000 perhaps
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Is it possible to let "Netmeetings directory service" point to a private
Website ? E.G. to "mydomain.com:80" instead of
"ils.netmeeting1.de" (port 389) ?
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I think it is possible to configure NetMeeting so its default "directory
service" is other than the messenger page you normally see ( I am not sure
where ils.netmeeting.de comes into it), but that doesn't do any login --
that function only displays a web page.
The configuration though is not something a remote operator can manipulate,
nor is it easy for the user to configure.
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Can a PHP site of "mydomain.com" answer the request from Netmeeting with
data from my own MySQL database ?
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What request? The login to a server and the viewing the directory of a
server are two separate unconnected actions. The login currently requires
the remote server be a LDAP server operating either on tcp 1002 or 389.
Viewing the directory requires either an LDAP server on one of those ports
or the "NetMeeting directory server" which is an http server.
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I modified a PHP script so that I have access to the data of an public
ILS server (see script below). But what "communication" exist between
"Netmeeting" and a regular ILS server ? I read that this communication
runs with protocol "LDAP". Is it possible that a PHP site can
communicate with "Netmeetings directory service" and answer the requests
in the right way ?
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I am not sure what you are asking here --yes a server scripting language
(php, asp or whatever) can potentially access the LDAP ILS server using
whatever LDAP access the functions the language has and display information
from it but that still doesn't remove the need for an LDAP ILS server to
handle NetMeeting login functions. |
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Nik Futter
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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| Quote: | Is it possible to let "Netmeetings directory service" point to a
private Website ? E.G. to "mydomain.com:80" instead of
"ils.netmeeting1.de" (port 389) ?
I think it is possible to configure NetMeeting so its default
"directory service" is other than the messenger page you normally see
( I am not sure where ils.netmeeting.de comes into it),
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OK - I probably use the wrong term. I mean: In Netmeeting you can enter
ILS server in "Tools" - "Options" - "General" - "Directory settings" -
"Directory" (e.g. "ils.netmeeting1.de" instead of "Microsoft Internet
Directory")
See the two pictures on your homepage
www.meetingbywire.com/NetMeeting101.htm
| Quote: | Can a PHP site of "mydomain.com" answer the request from Netmeeting
with data from my own MySQL database ?
What request? The login to a server and the viewing the directory of a
server are two separate unconnected actions.
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OK - to not make it to much complicated I want to drop the "login"
function. I only want to see logged in users.
| Quote: | The login currently requires the remote server be a LDAP server
operating either on tcp 1002 or 389. Viewing the directory requires
either an LDAP server on one of those ports or the "NetMeeting
directory server" which is an http server.
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OK - you say: EITHER
a) LDAP server operating on tcp 1002 or 389 or
b) "NetMeeting directory server" which is an http server
Here is my point: "http server"
| Quote: | yes a server scripting language (php, asp or whatever) can potentially
access the LDAP ILS server using whatever LDAP access the functions
the language has and display information from it
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And this was my idea: I want Netmeeting to access my website (http
server) and get from script language (PHP) the required data to build an
address list |
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Brian Sullivan
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:11:34 +0200, Nik Futter wrote:
| Quote: | Is it possible to let "Netmeetings directory service" point to a
private Website ? E.G. to "mydomain.com:80" instead of
"ils.netmeeting1.de" (port 389) ?
I think it is possible to configure NetMeeting so its default
"directory service" is other than the messenger page you normally see
( I am not sure where ils.netmeeting.de comes into it),
OK - I probably use the wrong term. I mean: In Netmeeting you can enter
ILS server in "Tools" - "Options" - "General" - "Directory settings" -
"Directory" (e.g. "ils.netmeeting1.de" instead of "Microsoft Internet
Directory")
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No -- you can't do that with the Microsoft Internet Directory afaik. It has
special status and is handled differently from other directories in the
list.
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Can a PHP site of "mydomain.com" answer the request from Netmeeting
with data from my own MySQL database ?
What request? The login to a server and the viewing the directory of a
server are two separate unconnected actions.
OK - to not make it to much complicated I want to drop the "login"
function. I only want to see logged in users.
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Well you have to have some way to determine if they are logged in and when
they logout or leave. If not the ils server then it would have to be some
http based method. As I said if you look at Neil Smith's site
_http://www.fresh-toast.uklinux.net/netmeeting/index.html you can see an
http based strategy.
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The login currently requires the remote server be a LDAP server
operating either on tcp 1002 or 389. Viewing the directory requires
either an LDAP server on one of those ports or the "NetMeeting
directory server" which is an http server.
OK - you say: EITHER
a) LDAP server operating on tcp 1002 or 389 or
b) "NetMeeting directory server" which is an http server
Here is my point: "http server"
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But the http server used in the NetMeeting directory server scheme does not
log you in to anything-- the most it can do is show a directory list of
users that have logged into a directory of some kind. The only method
provided in standard NetMeeting is to login to an ILS server.
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yes a server scripting language (php, asp or whatever) can potentially
access the LDAP ILS server using whatever LDAP access the functions
the language has and display information from it
And this was my idea: I want Netmeeting to access my website (http
server) and get from script language (PHP) the required data to build an
address list
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But even if you succeeded you would only be solving the problem of viewing
a directory -- the more difficult problem of logging the user readiness to
receive NetMeeting calls, his IP to allow call initiation and determining
when he logs out or is no longer available to receive a call is not
handled. |
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Nik Futter
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Sat Jul 02, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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As I wrote it some messages before: This method has the following
disadvantage for me:
a) The user must open the internet site
b) The user must login
c) The user should not close this site
Otherwise the user is not shown to be online
| Quote: | Here is my point: "http server"
And this was my idea: I want Netmeeting to access my website (http
server) and get from script language (PHP) the required data to build
an address list
But even if you succeeded you would only be solving the problem of
viewing a directory
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This is it what I want !
| Quote: | -- the more difficult problem of logging the user readiness to
receive NetMeeting calls, his IP to allow call initiation and
determining
when he logs out or is no longer available to receive a call is not
handled.
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This problem I have solved (still without using Netmeeting):
a) A small program (runs as background task in systray) calls e.g.
every 2 minutes my internet site like this:
www.mydomain.com/netmeeting.php?name=username&password=userpassword
b) The PHP script do the following:
b1) Checks if name and password valid in my MySQL database
b2) If "yes", read the IP address from the calling client (from
HTTP-Referrer, getenv("REMOTE_ADDR")) and save this IP address and
timestamp into the database
c) If the user wants to see what other user are online, he calls the
same site with his internet browser:
c2) The internet site then shows also a list of all users with timestamp
is not older then 3 minutes.
This works. And has the advantage that the user must not call a internet
site and keep them open to sign in as "online". The user only must run
the small program with "autostart".
But I want to integrate the same function into Netmeeting so that the
user has the list into Netmeeting as shown on your site
www.meetingbywire.com/NetMeeting101.htm , last picture. |
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Brian Sullivan
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Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:22:00 +0200, Nik Futter wrote:
| Quote: | If not the ils server then it would have to be some http based method.
As I said if you look at Neil Smith's site
http://www.fresh-toast.uklinux.net/netmeeting/index.html you can see
an http based strategy.
As I wrote it some messages before: This method has the following
disadvantage for me:
a) The user must open the internet site
b) The user must login
c) The user should not close this site
Otherwise the user is not shown to be online
Here is my point: "http server"
And this was my idea: I want Netmeeting to access my website (http
server) and get from script language (PHP) the required data to build
an address list
But even if you succeeded you would only be solving the problem of
viewing a directory
This is it what I want !
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The only way I can think to do it is to replace the registry entry that
contains the url of Microsoft Internet Directory on the user's machine (I
am not sure that can be done though-- I experimented a few years ago and
as I recall was not able to do what you intend)-- you would have to come up
with a procedure for doing that and convince the user to execute it.
Perhaps in your "small program"?
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-- the more difficult problem of logging the user readiness to
receive NetMeeting calls, his IP to allow call initiation and
determining
when he logs out or is no longer available to receive a call is not
handled.
This problem I have solved (still without using Netmeeting):
a) A small program (runs as background task in systray) calls e.g.
every 2 minutes my internet site like this:
www.mydomain.com/netmeeting.php?name=username&password=userpassword
b) The PHP script do the following:
b1) Checks if name and password valid in my MySQL database
b2) If "yes", read the IP address from the calling client (from
HTTP-Referrer, getenv("REMOTE_ADDR")) and save this IP address and
timestamp into the database
c) If the user wants to see what other user are online, he calls the
same site with his internet browser:
c2) The internet site then shows also a list of all users with timestamp
is not older then 3 minutes.
This works. And has the advantage that the user must not call a internet
site and keep them open to sign in as "online". The user only must run
the small program with "autostart".
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If you can convince your users to install and run a program then you can do
anything you want -- you could produce a new version of NetMeeting based on
the SDK that implements a solution to all your issues if you so desired.
The only way you can have a list in NetMeeting is to appropriate the
Microsoft Internet Directory page and display a web page that shows what
you want(I am not sure that is possible though -- I think it is identified
by it's dns name). The directory listing mechanism you see there is only
for LDAP/ILS servers.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Conferencing and
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Conferencing are the registry entries
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Nik Futter
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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| Quote: | The only way I can think to do it is to replace the registry entry
that contains the url of Microsoft Internet Directory on the user's
machine
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Perhaps I have found a way ...
| Quote: | you could produce a new version of NetMeeting based on the SDK that
implements a solution to all your issues if you so desired.
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At www.microsoft.com/windows/NetMeeting/Corp/reskit/Chapter2/default.asp
I see a good list of possibilities of the Netmeeting SDK. Especially
this seems to be interesting:
| Quote: | Step 2: Configuring Calling Options" - "Setting the Directory Server
List
Set Web View: Specifies a Web View OTHER than the default Microsoft
Internet Directory. The new server name, friendly name, and base URL
are required.
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I download the "Netmeeting Software Development Kit" from
www.microsoft.com/windows/netmeeting/authors/SDK/
But I don't find the "NetMeeting Resource Kit Wizard" as shown on:
www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/netmting/reskit/netmtg3/part2/chapter2.mspx
So I can not create a Netmeeting version that has the function "Set Web
View" enabled.
On the page www.netmeetinghq.com/downloads/downloads.phtml I found a
tool "NetMeeting Super Enhancer (NMSE) 2.0" which should allow "Ability
to change Web directories". I test this program (on a separate test
computer) with my installed version of "NetMeeting Version 3.01
(5.1.2600.2180)". But the settings/configuration shows no effect – the
Web directory page is not changed.
But I see in the registry that there appears a new entry "Policies":
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Conferencing\Policies]
"IntranetWebDirName"="MyName"
"IntranetWebDirServer"="www.mydomain.com"
"IntranetWebDirURL"="http://www.mydomain.com/netmeeting/index.php"
But, however, this entry has no effect.
On the same download page is offered a special version of Netmeeting
"NetMeeting 3.01 - Special NetMeetingHQ Build 3388" – perhaps a special
version made with Netmeeting SDK and perhaps this version works with
"NetMeeting Super Enhancer (NMSE) 2.0". But the offered download link
"www.netmeetinghq.com/downloads/Nm3c.exe" leads always to this internet
page "http://www.netmeetinghq.com/"
So I searched the Internet and found an other "Nm3c.exe". But when I
try to install this version it says:
| Quote: | Windows NetMeeting 3.01:
This version of NetMeeting cannot be installed on this version of
Windows.
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OK – nevertheless with some dirty tricks I installed this version:
I fetched the unpacked files (from a temp folder) whilst the message box
appears and copied them to a separate folder (after the message box
disappears the unpacked file are deleted from the temporally folder).
Then I installed this version with the included "inf" file. This works.
But after a short time "Windows file protection" replaces the files with
the original Netmeeting version. So I start Windows in "save" mode and
copied the unpacked file to the Netmeeting folder. Now "Windows file
protection" don't replaces the files with the original version.
Now I have a Netmeeting Version 3.01 (4.4.3385) on my test computer
instead of Version 3.01 (5.1.2600.2180).
Nevertheless – the program "NetMeeting Super Enhancer (NMSE) 2.0" shows
no effect. I fiddle around a little in the registry tree of
"Conferencing" – and suddenly it works. Instead of the Microsoft Windows
page ("msn Messenger - Service don't work - please download MSN
Messenger...") I see my own homepage (or www.google.com or what else I
want). And I can not only call domains, but also internet pages; e.g.
www.mydomain.com/netmeeting/index.php or
www.mydomain.com/netmeeting/index.php?name=username&password=userpassword.
Now I am trying to transfer this settings from my test computer to my
work computer by using the original Netmeeting Version 3.01
(5.1.2600.2180). Perhaps I don't need a modified version of Netmeeting –
I think it's all configured in the registry and I must fiddle it out. |
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Brian Sullivan
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Private ILS server substitute |
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On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:04:37 +0200, Nik Futter wrote:
| Quote: | The only way I can think to do it is to replace the registry entry
that contains the url of Microsoft Internet Directory on the user's
machine
Perhaps I have found a way ...
you could produce a new version of NetMeeting based on the SDK that
implements a solution to all your issues if you so desired.
At www.microsoft.com/windows/NetMeeting/Corp/reskit/Chapter2/default.asp
I see a good list of possibilities of the Netmeeting SDK. Especially
this seems to be interesting:
Step 2: Configuring Calling Options" - "Setting the Directory Server
List
Set Web View: Specifies a Web View OTHER than the default Microsoft
Internet Directory. The new server name, friendly name, and base URL
are required.
I download the "Netmeeting Software Development Kit" from
www.microsoft.com/windows/netmeeting/authors/SDK/
But I don't find the "NetMeeting Resource Kit Wizard" as shown on:
www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/netmting/reskit/netmtg3/part2/chapter2.mspx
So I can not create a Netmeeting version that has the function "Set Web
View" enabled.
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The resource kit will only produce versions for pre Win2000 systems. The
same features control for XP/2000 is found in the policy editor.
| Quote: | On the page www.netmeetinghq.com/downloads/downloads.phtml I found a
tool "NetMeeting Super Enhancer (NMSE) 2.0" which should allow "Ability
to change Web directories". I test this program (on a separate test
computer) with my installed version of "NetMeeting Version 3.01
(5.1.2600.2180)". But the settings/configuration shows no effect ¡V the
On the same download page is offered a special version of Netmeeting
"NetMeeting 3.01 - Special NetMeetingHQ Build 3388" ¡V perhaps a special
version made with Netmeeting SDK and perhaps this version works with
"NetMeeting Super Enhancer (NMSE) 2.0". But the offered download link
"www.netmeetinghq.com/downloads/Nm3c.exe" leads always to this internet
page "http://www.netmeetinghq.com/"
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| Quote: |
So I searched the Internet and found an other "Nm3c.exe". But when I
try to install this version it says:
Windows NetMeeting 3.01:
This version of NetMeeting cannot be installed on this version of
Windows.
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Both this program and the builds of NM mentioned are very old -- at least 5
years. No downloadable version of NM will install and run on XP or 2000.
| Quote: |
OK ¡V nevertheless with some dirty tricks I installed this version:
I fetched the unpacked files (from a temp folder) whilst the message box
appears and copied them to a separate folder (after the message box
disappears the unpacked file are deleted from the temporally folder).
Then I installed this version with the included "inf" file. This works.
But after a short time "Windows file protection" replaces the files with
the original Netmeeting version. So I start Windows in "save" mode and
copied the unpacked file to the Netmeeting folder. Now "Windows file
protection" don't replaces the files with the original version.
Now I have a Netmeeting Version 3.01 (4.4.3385) on my test computer
instead of Version 3.01 (5.1.2600.2180).
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Even if this version runs it is filled with bugs and problems I think.
Probably by installing and running it you have fouled the registry for the
proper version. |
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