Cat5 568B cable wrong... but right. Huh?
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Cat5 568B cable wrong... but right. Huh?

 
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rh128592
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:40 am    Post subject: Cat5 568B cable wrong... but right. Huh? Reply with quote

Explain this and I'll send you some Christmas cookies...

I have a OEM cat5 cable. On the side it says "EIA-568B".

You and I know that, at the very least, pins 1,2 and 3,6 should match
up. You and I also know what 568B says the wiring order needs to be:

white orange/orange
white green/blue
white blue/green
white brown/brown

But this OEM cable is wired...

white orange/orange
white green/white blue
green/blue
white brown/brown

Here's the kicker: the OEM cable works. From the cable modem to the
router it works. From my laptop NIC to the router it also works. But
the pins don't match: 1,2 ... 3,5 ... 4,6, ... 7,8

In short, I must have some bad info somewhere. I should be happy it
works but I want to understand why this "wrong" cable is working.
Cheers,
Brian
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David Lesher
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: Cat5 568B cable wrong... but right. Huh? Reply with quote

"rh128592" <rh128592@yahoo.com> writes:

Quote:
Explain this and I'll send you some Christmas cookies...

I have a OEM cat5 cable. On the side it says "EIA-568B".

You and I know that, at the very least, pins 1,2 and 3,6 should match
up. You and I also know what 568B says the wiring order needs to be:

white orange/orange
white green/blue
white blue/green
white brown/brown


Quote:
But this OEM cable is wired...

white orange/orange
white green/white blue
green/blue
white brown/brown

If I follow you; then this is wrong.

1 w/or
2 or/w
3 w/gn
4 bl/w
5 w/bl
6 gn/w
7 w/bn
8 bn/w

is from the chart...

Quote:
Here's the kicker: the OEM cable works.

No mystery. On a short cable, in good circumstances; almost anything
works. It's when you have 100 meters, colo with adjacent cables.
slightly kinked, etc. that the spec is vital.

Quote:
In short, I must have some bad info somewhere. I should be happy it
works but I want to understand why this "wrong" cable is working...

Because the Ethernet receiver is able to hear the far end bits even
in the face of local interference. In short, you lucked out.
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Robert Redelmeier
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: Cat5 568B cable wrong... but right. Huh? Reply with quote

rh128592 <rh128592@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
white orange/orange
white green/white blue
green/blue
white brown/brown

OK. So one pair is split, if you can tell the wh-gr from wh-bl.

Quote:
Here's the kicker: the OEM cable works. From the cable modem
to the router it works. From my laptop NIC to the router it
also works. But the pins don't match: 1,2 ... 3,5 ... 4,6,
... 7,8

Not at all surprising from the modem to the router, since
this is short and 10baseT. NIC to router is a bit more
surprising because this usually runs at 100baseTX, but
it may still work for a short cable.

-- Robert
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James Knott
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Cat5 568B cable wrong... but right. Huh? Reply with quote

rh128592 wrote:

Quote:
Here's the kicker: the OEM cable works.  From the cable modem to the
router it works.  From my laptop NIC to the router it also works.  But
the pins don't match: 1,2 ... 3,5 ... 4,6, ... 7,8

It might work for short distance, but not long. It doesn't matter what the
colours are, provided proper pairing is maintained. However, good practice
dictates using EIA/TIA 568A or B. Chuck that cable and get a good one.
Cables are cheap.
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Cat5 568B cable wrong... but right. Huh? Reply with quote

EIA/TIA 568B is a standard not a pin out. T568A and T568B are pin out.
That cable is just saying in meets the EIA/TIA standards. The T is
important people!
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rh128592
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Cat5 568B cable wrong... but right. Huh? Reply with quote

Thanks all. Good to know. I just learned how little I know. And
supposedly I'm the family computer "expert".

Cheers,
Brian
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