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James Watkins
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:30 am Post subject:
Dynamic IP Address |
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It appears that in order to upgrade my SBC DSL speed to the DSL Pro package,
I will have to give up the static IP address I have had for the past 5
years. I have no experience with a dynamic IP address. I don't really need
the static address since I am not running any kind of server, but I do have
some questions about the dynamic IP setup. Do you have to log on whenever
you need to access the internet or is it always on and transparent the way
my static IP is? Will it time out after some period of no traffic requiring
some action to re-establish the connection? How often is a new IP address
assigned, daily, weekly, hourly? Do I need to use SBC software or can I
configure Windows XP Pro to operate without any of their software? The main
thing I want to know is whether from a users point of view there will be any
noticeable differences in how my internet connection works. Ideally it
would be absolutely transparent like it is now with a static IP.
Thanks,
--Jim |
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Neil W Rickert
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:30 am Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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"James Watkins" <vanillagorilla2@excite.com> writes:
| Quote: | It appears that in order to upgrade my SBC DSL speed to the DSL Pro package,
I will have to give up the static IP address I have had for the past 5
years. I have no experience with a dynamic IP address. I don't really need
the static address since I am not running any kind of server, but I do have
some questions about the dynamic IP setup. Do you have to log on whenever
you need to access the internet or is it always on and transparent the way
my static IP is?
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If you use the 5100b modem (the one SBC usually provides), then you enter
the account and password info into the modem. It will login as needed.
If you leave your modem turned on all the time, then you will stay
connected until there is some disruption. Only after such a
disruption will your modem need to login again. Your IP address will
probably change at that time.
| Quote: | Will it time out after some period of no traffic requiring
some action to re-establish the connection?
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There might be a modem setting that would do this. As far as I know,
the default is to stay connected.
| Quote: | How often is a new IP address
assigned, daily, weekly, hourly?
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Some people report keeping the IP for months. I have trouble keeping
it for a day. But that's because I am near the limit of distance
from the CO, and it seems that there is a neighborhood source of
interference which disrupts my connection for a few minutes most
afternoons.
| Quote: | Do I need to use SBC software or can I
configure Windows XP Pro to operate without any of their software?
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The experienced people are advising that you DO NOT use (or even
install) the software.
| Quote: | The main
thing I want to know is whether from a users point of view there will be any
noticeable differences in how my internet connection works.
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Except for the initial setup (putting the account info into the
modem) it should just work.
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Pete Stephenson
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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In article <Twrwd.34942$zx1.22602@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
"James Watkins" <vanillagorilla2@excite.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I have no experience with a dynamic IP address.
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You shouldn't really notice any significant difference.
| Quote: | I don't really need the static address since I am not running any
kind of server, but I do have some questions about the dynamic IP
setup.
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Be glad to help out however I can.
| Quote: | Do you have to log on whenever you need to access the internet or is
it always on and transparent the way my static IP is?
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I believe that SBC requires PPPoE, and thus you would need to log on
with your username and password. At least that's how the dynamic IP
setup is with my friend's computer.
Either use the software they provide, configure your computer to
automatically transmit that information (some do, I'm not sure about
all OS'), or get a $50 NAT router/firewall (i.e. a Linksys router) that
will do it automatically.
| Quote: | Will it time out after some period of no traffic requiring some
action to re-establish the connection?
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I believe so.
| Quote: | How often is a new IP address assigned, daily, weekly, hourly?
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I believe SBC only assigns new IP addresses whenever you log off and
back on again.
| Quote: | Do I need to use SBC software or can I configure Windows XP Pro to
operate without any of their software?
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I believe that Windows XP Pro can do it, but I'm not 100% sure -- I'm a
Mac user.
That said, having a Windows machine directly connected to the internet
is an Extremely Unwise Idea(tm), what with the large number of viruses,
worms, and other vulnerabilities inherent in Windows. A $50 NAT box
would serve you well.
| Quote: | The main thing I want to know is whether from a users point of view
there will be any noticeable differences in how my internet
connection works. Ideally it would be absolutely transparent like it
is now with a static IP.
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I suspect that it will work nearly as transparently as it does right
now, even more so if you get a NAT box to automatically enter the
login/password whenever you use your network connection. If you're not
presently logged onto SBC's network, it may take up to five seconds or
so to log on, after which there should be no delays until the connection
is idle for long enough to disconnect.
Cheers!
--
Pete Stephenson
HeyPete.com |
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Erik Freitag
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:57 am Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:30:11 +0000, James Watkins wrote:
| Quote: | It appears that in order to upgrade my SBC DSL speed to the DSL Pro package,
I will have to give up the static IP address I have had for the past 5
years. I have no experience with a dynamic IP address. I don't really need
the static address since I am not running any kind of server, but I do have
some questions about the dynamic IP setup. Do you have to log on whenever
you need to access the internet or is it always on and transparent the way
my static IP is? Will it time out after some period of no traffic requiring
some action to re-establish the connection? How often is a new IP address
assigned, daily, weekly, hourly? Do I need to use SBC software or can I
configure Windows XP Pro to operate without any of their software? The main
thing I want to know is whether from a users point of view there will be any
noticeable differences in how my internet connection works. Ideally it
would be absolutely transparent like it is now with a static IP.
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I've worked with a couple of SBC DSL connections and I don't think you'll
see any difference (unless DSL Pro is faster). The DHCP negotiation is
between your DSL interface and SBC's DHCP server - you shouldn't see
anything. I don't know what the renewal time is, but I seem to remember it
is around 24 hours, so DHCP would try to renew in 12 hours. You
frequently/almost always get the same address after the renewal, but that
should make no difference. |
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Clark W. Griswold, Jr.
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:57 am Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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"James Watkins" <vanillagorilla2@excite.com> wrote:
| Quote: | It appears that in order to upgrade my SBC DSL speed to the DSL Pro package,
I will have to give up the static IP address I have had for the past 5
years. I have no experience with a dynamic IP address. I don't really need
the static address since I am not running any kind of server, but I do have
some questions about the dynamic IP setup. Do you have to log on whenever
you need to access the internet or is it always on and transparent the way
my static IP is? Will it time out after some period of no traffic requiring
some action to re-establish the connection? How often is a new IP address
assigned, daily, weekly, hourly? Do I need to use SBC software or can I
configure Windows XP Pro to operate without any of their software? The main
thing I want to know is whether from a users point of view there will be any
noticeable differences in how my internet connection works. Ideally it
would be absolutely transparent like it is now with a static IP.
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WinXP will work fine and you don't need any SBC software. You really ought to
have a router though. It can also handle the logging in transparently and
provides a certain level of protection from outside probes. Both a straight
WinXP and router connection will make things work the same as they do now.
I had static addresses for years, but finally gave them up about a year ago.
There was no need for a static address when I moved the web stuff to a web
hosting company.
If you decide you ever do need access to your home machine, dynamic IPs don't
usually change that often. You can just use the IP address or sign up for one of
the free dyndns services. |
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Clark W. Griswold, Jr.
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:58 am Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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Pete Stephenson <pete+usenet@heypete.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I believe that SBC requires PPPoE, and thus you would need to log on
with your username and password. At least that's how the dynamic IP
setup is with my friend's computer.
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They do, but WinXP provides native support for it. Once the connection is set
up, no further operator action is required. |
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Clark W. Griswold, Jr.
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:58 am Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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Pete Stephenson <pete+usenet@heypete.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I believe SBC only assigns new IP addresses whenever you log off and
back on again.
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Not even that often. A relative uses SBC and their IP rarely changes. |
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Pete Stephenson
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:33 am Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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In article <89m4s05phn6l3q9k9q1mn68o3q4h067uil@4ax.com>,
"Clark W. Griswold, Jr." <spamtrap100@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | They do, but WinXP provides native support for it. Once the
connection is set up, no further operator action is required.
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Ah, excellent.
I run a Mac-and-Linux shop here and refuse to do anything with Windows.
Still, that's nice that they're including PPPoE now.
--
Pete Stephenson
HeyPete.com |
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Kay Archer
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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"James Watkins" <vanillagorilla2@excite.com> wrote in message
news:Twrwd.34942$zx1.22602@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
| Quote: | It appears that in order to upgrade my SBC DSL speed to the DSL Pro
package,
I will have to give up the static IP address I have had for the past 5
years. I have no experience with a dynamic IP address. I don't really
need
the static address since I am not running any kind of server, but I do
have
some questions about the dynamic IP setup. Do you have to log on whenever
you need to access the internet or is it always on and transparent the way
my static IP is?
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Depends on which modem you use, the current 5100b and HomePortal modems stay
connected all the time. Older modems depend on software on the computer to
authenticate.
Will it time out after some period of no traffic requiring
| Quote: | some action to re-establish the connection?
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No. Or only if you disconnect.
How often is a new IP address
| Quote: | assigned, daily, weekly, hourly?
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"As often as every 4 hours." Your mileage may vary.
Do I need to use SBC software or can I
| Quote: | configure Windows XP Pro to operate without any of their software?
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The current modems (see above) only require a Java enabled browser to set
them up.
The main
| Quote: | thing I want to know is whether from a users point of view there will be
any
noticeable differences in how my internet connection works. Ideally it
would be absolutely transparent like it is now with a static IP.
Probably no difference (once you are setup) |
P.S., as a previously Static customer changing to Dynamic, only Tier 2
support should help you with the changeover. |
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Some One
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:58 am Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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"Clark W. Griswold, Jr." <spamtrap100@comcast.net> wrote in
news:nam4s0duhhrdneqkn5os6eaequ8t6ji7k9@4ax.com:
| Quote: | Pete Stephenson <pete+usenet@heypete.com> wrote:
I believe SBC only assigns new IP addresses whenever you log off and
back on again.
Not even that often. A relative uses SBC and their IP rarely changes.
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I have SBC and I get a different address every time I establish a
connection. Maybe it depends on where in the country you are. |
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David Efflandt
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:53 am Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Pete Stephenson <pete+usenet@heypete.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <89m4s05phn6l3q9k9q1mn68o3q4h067uil@4ax.com>,
"Clark W. Griswold, Jr." <spamtrap100@comcast.net> wrote:
They do, but WinXP provides native support for it. Once the
connection is set up, no further operator action is required.
Ah, excellent.
I run a Mac-and-Linux shop here and refuse to do anything with Windows.
Still, that's nice that they're including PPPoE now.
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I have been using Linux for SBC dynamic PPPoE for years. You only get a
new IP if you are dropped or disconnect. If you set idle 0 for ppp
options (or whatever PPPoE to not disconnect) it will remain connected
until dropped. The current 5100b by default acts as modem/router (which
automatically connects as needed), but you can change that to do your own
PPPoE.
I use no-ip.com for dynamic DNS and run their Unix update client from
/etc/ppp/ip-up (which runs automatically whenever pppd gets an IP).
The best place for assistance is SBC and other forums on
http://www.broadbandreports.com/ alias http://www.dslreports.com/ |
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NormanM
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject:
Re: Dynamic IP Address |
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In article <H4ednQxvWJYOy17cRVn-sA@giganews.com>, Some One says...
| Quote: | "Clark W. Griswold, Jr." <spamtrap100@comcast.net> wrote in
news:nam4s0duhhrdneqkn5os6eaequ8t6ji7k9@4ax.com:
Pete Stephenson <pete+usenet@heypete.com> wrote:
I believe SBC only assigns new IP addresses whenever you log off and
back on again.
Not even that often. A relative uses SBC and their IP rarely changes.
I have SBC and I get a different address every time I establish a
connection. Maybe it depends on where in the country you are.
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It depends on how long you stay connected. If you shut down the connection
every night, you will get a new IP address every time you get a new
connection. Some people don't disconnect every night. My router status
includes the following information:
Connection Time 101:30:58
That's four days, five hours, thirty-one minutes; more or less. I wouldn't
leave a Windows computer directly connected when I wasn't at the console;
and it would have a software firewall in place before I connected. I am not
so worried about my router.
--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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