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RedRover
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject:
Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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Hi All
I have a customer who uses a dedicated Netgear Router (Not Wireless) to
access the web and use a VPN link to his Employer, this router cannot
and must not be changed.
Using an ethernet cable connection to his router he can access the
internet on another machine but he wants to do this wirelessly for
other computers in his home.
What is the best way to do this, should he use a wireless router with
an ethernet connection to his existing router? or what?
Your help on this will be greatly appreciated.
Patrick |
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James Knott
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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RedRover wrote:
| Quote: | Hi All
I have a customer who uses a dedicated Netgear Router (Not Wireless) to
access the web and use a VPN link to his Employer, this router cannot
and must not be changed.
Using an ethernet cable connection to his router he can access the
internet on another machine but he wants to do this wirelessly for
other computers in his home.
What is the best way to do this, should he use a wireless router with
an ethernet connection to his existing router? or what?
Your help on this will be greatly appreciated.
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He can access the internet, with cascased routers, as you describe.
However, he might have issues with local networking. He could put an
access point on his local network though. |
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DCT Dictator
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | RedRover wrote:
Hi All
I have a customer who uses a dedicated Netgear Router (Not Wireless) to
access the web and use a VPN link to his Employer, this router cannot
and must not be changed.
Using an ethernet cable connection to his router he can access the
internet on another machine but he wants to do this wirelessly for
other computers in his home.
What is the best way to do this, should he use a wireless router with
an ethernet connection to his existing router? or what?
Your help on this will be greatly appreciated.
He can access the internet, with cascased routers, as you describe.
However, he might have issues with local networking. He could put an
access point on his local network though.
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Some consumer routers will run in access point mode. I have one
(Microsoft MN700) hanging off of a Linksys, was cheaper for me and it
works fine. All computers can see each other.
By putting the low voltage power on an unused pair in the CAT5 I was
able to put the MN700 in a central point in the home for better
wireless coverage.
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moblog at http://dctdctator.textamerica.com/ |
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Claude J Ortega
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:34 pm Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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In article <1103202545.092477.140360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
info@psoftuk.com says...
| Quote: | Hi All
I have a customer who uses a dedicated Netgear Router (Not Wireless) to
access the web and use a VPN link to his Employer, this router cannot
and must not be changed.
Using an ethernet cable connection to his router he can access the
internet on another machine but he wants to do this wirelessly for
other computers in his home.
What is the best way to do this, should he use a wireless router with
an ethernet connection to his existing router? or what?
Your help on this will be greatly appreciated.
Patrick
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I have a Netgear 4 port router connected to a cable modem, and a Belkin 54g WAP
plugged into one of the Netgear ports. All of the computers are set with static
IP's in the 192.168.0.x block, and they have no trouble seeing each other, and
connecting to the internet.
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RedRover
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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Thanks to all those who replied
Patrick |
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Ron Hunter
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:43 am Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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RedRover wrote:
| Quote: | Hi All
I have a customer who uses a dedicated Netgear Router (Not Wireless) to
access the web and use a VPN link to his Employer, this router cannot
and must not be changed.
Using an ethernet cable connection to his router he can access the
internet on another machine but he wants to do this wirelessly for
other computers in his home.
What is the best way to do this, should he use a wireless router with
an ethernet connection to his existing router? or what?
Your help on this will be greatly appreciated.
Patrick
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He needs what is called an access point. It is pretty much the same in
size and appearance as a wireless router, but plugs into a wired router
port. The cost is MORE than a wireless router with 4 ports. Go figure.
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Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net |
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mac mac
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:10 am Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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I have a similar problem. My "main" cable/dsl router is a Linksys
BEFSR41. I just picked up a Netgear MR814 Wireless Router that I want
to hook into the Linksys. (I'm running Mac OS X, 10.3.5.)
I tried to set up the Netgear by plugging its "Interenet" port to the
Linksys "Uplink" port. Running the Netgear set-up assistant, it
"auto-detects" a static IP address and asks me for an IP address,
netmask and gateway IP address. I have no idea what to put in these
fields.
Should I be plugging in the Netgear to one of the other open Linksys
ports? Should I be using the "Internet" port on the Netgear?
Should the Netgear be using a static IP from the Linksys or dynamic?
The quoted message below implies a static IP, but again, I don't know
what values to use.
Please help!
Obviously confused.
Jim
In article <MPG.1c2b833cf7c9d3c1989750@news.supernews.com>, Claude J
Ortega <cj-usenet-01_SPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <1103202545.092477.140360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
info@psoftuk.com says...
Hi All
I have a customer who uses a dedicated Netgear Router (Not Wireless) to
access the web and use a VPN link to his Employer, this router cannot
and must not be changed.
Using an ethernet cable connection to his router he can access the
internet on another machine but he wants to do this wirelessly for
other computers in his home.
What is the best way to do this, should he use a wireless router with
an ethernet connection to his existing router? or what?
Your help on this will be greatly appreciated.
Patrick
I have a Netgear 4 port router connected to a cable modem, and a Belkin 54g
WAP
plugged into one of the Netgear ports. All of the computers are set with
static
IP's in the 192.168.0.x block, and they have no trouble seeing each other, and
connecting to the internet. |
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Dave C.
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:14 am Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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"mac mac" <mac@wi.rr.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:1103332229.a6463e0e3c07f3e3cbec234d17958008@teranews...
| Quote: | I have a similar problem. My "main" cable/dsl router is a Linksys
BEFSR41. I just picked up a Netgear MR814 Wireless Router that I want
to hook into the Linksys. (I'm running Mac OS X, 10.3.5.)
I tried to set up the Netgear by plugging its "Interenet" port to the
Linksys "Uplink" port. Running the Netgear set-up assistant, it
"auto-detects" a static IP address and asks me for an IP address,
netmask and gateway IP address. I have no idea what to put in these
fields.
Should I be plugging in the Netgear to one of the other open Linksys
ports? Should I be using the "Internet" port on the Netgear?
Should the Netgear be using a static IP from the Linksys or dynamic?
The quoted message below implies a static IP, but again, I don't know
what values to use.
Please help!
Obviously confused.
Jim
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If you have an MR814, then the BEFSR41 is redundant. Two routers won't work
together very well. I'd suggest you hook up the Netgear instead of the
Linksys, and then sell the Linksys on ebay. To set up the Netgear router is
easy.
Turn off your computer. Unplug your cable modem and router. Meaning, cut
the electrical power to both, and disconnect all other cables from the
Linksys router as well. Now run an ethernet cable from the ethernet
connector on the cable modem to the WAN (or Internet) port on the back of
the Netgear router. Plug in the cable modem. WAIT TWO MINUTES. Plug in
the Netgear router. WAIT TWO MINUTES. Now turn on your MAC. That should
be all it takes to configure the Netgear router for local, wired, Internet
access, assuming you are using a cable modem.
Eventually, you will need to fire up a web browser and point it to
http://192.168.0.1 to log into the Netgear router. From there, go to
wireless settings. Choose a name for your wireless network, enable wireless
access point. Security settings are personal preference, but I'd suggest
Shared Key and 64 bit encryption, and then type in a passphrase to generate
keys to share. PRINT THIS PAGE BEFORE YOU EXIT. You will need this
information to set up your wireless access card(s) later. -Dave |
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mac mac
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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Dave,
Thanks for the answer, and for being so specific. I fear that I
simplified my query, though, and I need to supply some more info, as it
directly affects your proposed solution.
I have come to actually need more Ethernet ports than just the Linksys
or the Netgear router can supply by themselves. Hence, your suggestion
to remove the Linksys from the system would leave me with too few
ports.
So, I guess I still need a way to connect the Netgear wireless router
to the Linksys. I did a bunch of searching last night and came up with
this article from Netgear support:
http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N101236.asp
It describes using a wireless router as a wireless access point. Would
this technique work in my situation? It seems like it should. Any
thoughts on this?
Thanks!
Jim
In article <32hi4cF3nidurU1@individual.net>, Dave C. <mdupre@sff.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | "mac mac" <mac@wi.rr.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:1103332229.a6463e0e3c07f3e3cbec234d17958008@teranews...
I have a similar problem. My "main" cable/dsl router is a Linksys
BEFSR41. I just picked up a Netgear MR814 Wireless Router that I want
to hook into the Linksys. (I'm running Mac OS X, 10.3.5.)
I tried to set up the Netgear by plugging its "Interenet" port to the
Linksys "Uplink" port. Running the Netgear set-up assistant, it
"auto-detects" a static IP address and asks me for an IP address,
netmask and gateway IP address. I have no idea what to put in these
fields.
Should I be plugging in the Netgear to one of the other open Linksys
ports? Should I be using the "Internet" port on the Netgear?
Should the Netgear be using a static IP from the Linksys or dynamic?
The quoted message below implies a static IP, but again, I don't know
what values to use.
Please help!
Obviously confused.
Jim
If you have an MR814, then the BEFSR41 is redundant. Two routers won't work
together very well. I'd suggest you hook up the Netgear instead of the
Linksys, and then sell the Linksys on ebay. To set up the Netgear router is
easy.
Turn off your computer. Unplug your cable modem and router. Meaning, cut
the electrical power to both, and disconnect all other cables from the
Linksys router as well. Now run an ethernet cable from the ethernet
connector on the cable modem to the WAN (or Internet) port on the back of
the Netgear router. Plug in the cable modem. WAIT TWO MINUTES. Plug in
the Netgear router. WAIT TWO MINUTES. Now turn on your MAC. That should
be all it takes to configure the Netgear router for local, wired, Internet
access, assuming you are using a cable modem.
Eventually, you will need to fire up a web browser and point it to
http://192.168.0.1 to log into the Netgear router. From there, go to
wireless settings. Choose a name for your wireless network, enable wireless
access point. Security settings are personal preference, but I'd suggest
Shared Key and 64 bit encryption, and then type in a passphrase to generate
keys to share. PRINT THIS PAGE BEFORE YOU EXIT. You will need this
information to set up your wireless access card(s) later. -Dave
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Dave C.
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:53 am Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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"mac mac" <mac@wi.rr.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:1103384207.9669a7f02ef49080d6426e3c6d52a502@teranews...
| Quote: | Dave,
Thanks for the answer, and for being so specific. I fear that I
simplified my query, though, and I need to supply some more info, as it
directly affects your proposed solution.
I have come to actually need more Ethernet ports than just the Linksys
or the Netgear router can supply by themselves. Hence, your suggestion
to remove the Linksys from the system would leave me with too few
ports.
So, I guess I still need a way to connect the Netgear wireless router
to the Linksys. I did a bunch of searching last night and came up with
this article from Netgear support:
http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N101236.asp
It describes using a wireless router as a wireless access point. Would
this technique work in my situation? It seems like it should. Any
thoughts on this?
Thanks!
Jim
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Theoretically, it looks like it should work. However, what they have done
there is to create a dumb hub out of a router. :) That's a bit like
yanking the engine out of a motorcycle and putting pedals on it to create a
bicycle. But if you already own the router, it's worth a shot. -Dave |
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Rick Merrill
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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DCT Dictator wrote:
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| Quote: | By putting the low voltage power on an unused pair in the CAT5 I was
able to put the MN700 in a central point in the home for better
wireless coverage.
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THAT is a great idea worth remembering! - RM |
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James Knott
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:47 am Post subject:
Re: Router / Wireless Router Dilemma |
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Rick Merrill wrote:
| Quote: | DCT Dictator wrote:
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By putting the low voltage power on an unused pair in the CAT5 I was
able to put the MN700 in a central point in the home for better
wireless coverage.
THAT is a great idea worth remembering! - RM
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Ever hear of PoE (Power over Ethernet)? |
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