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Joe Perkowski
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject:
Cross Battery and Verizon? |
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Hey ppl,
Does anyone know what is "cross battery"? We put in a NBX 2 months
ago running fine. Now, we are getting static and crosstalk on some of our
incoming lines.
We have had a great deal of rain these past 2 weeks, and have had previously
problems with Verizon due to old copper in our area.
The Verizon guy is telling us "cross battery" is causing this?
What is "cross battery" if anyone knows...?
Thanks
Joe |
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Battery and Verizon? |
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Joe Perkowski wrote:
| Quote: | Hey ppl,
Does anyone know what is "cross battery"? We put in a NBX 2
months
ago running fine. Now, we are getting static and crosstalk on some of
our
incoming lines.
We have had a great deal of rain these past 2 weeks, and have had
previously
problems with Verizon due to old copper in our area.
The Verizon guy is telling us "cross battery" is causing
this?
What is "cross battery" if anyone knows...?
Thanks
Joe
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It sounds like a local telco slang to me. There are batteries and there
are crosses in telco world, but what you'd normally call a "cross" is
passive by design - does not need power.
All in all - the problem is still crappy copper, no matter how you call
it. Report to Verizon, write to the regional office, do not just get a
trouble ticket from a customer service rep.
Good luck!
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James Knott
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:07 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Battery and Verizon? |
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Joe Perkowski wrote:
| Quote: | The Verizon guy is telling us "cross battery" is causing this?
What is "cross battery" if anyone knows...?
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Leakage or short from another pair. |
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John P. Dearing
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:00 am Post subject:
Re: Cross Battery and Verizon? |
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Joe Perkowski wrote:
| Quote: | Does anyone know what is "cross battery"? We put in a NBX 2 months
ago running fine. Now, we are getting static and crosstalk on some of our
incoming lines.
We have had a great deal of rain these past 2 weeks, and have had previously
problems with Verizon due to old copper in our area.
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A good telephone line has certain electrical characteristics. One is
that no conductor should be grounded or shorted (shunted in Telco
parlance) to another and finally, there should be no foreign voltage
present on any conductor when the pair is opened up for testing.
A "Cross Battery" condition means that one (or both) of the conductors
are measuring foreign DC voltage when tested.
Pairs getting crossed up with DC battery is frequently the result of
lots of rain and old cable.
Keep after them, keep reporting trouble and *make* them fix the problem,
even if it means having to replace old cable. You're paying good money
ecah month for service. Make sure you're getting what you are paying for.
John
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:00 am Post subject:
Re: Cross Battery and Verizon? |
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"John P. Dearing" <John.Dearing@VerYOURPANTSizon.NET> wrote in message
news:QS6xd.478$sh5.88@trndny08...
| Quote: | Joe Perkowski wrote:
Does anyone know what is "cross battery"? We put in a NBX 2 months
ago running fine. Now, we are getting static and crosstalk on some
of our incoming lines.
We have had a great deal of rain these past 2 weeks, and have had
previously problems with Verizon due to old copper in our area.
A good telephone line has certain electrical characteristics. One is
that no conductor should be grounded or shorted (shunted in Telco
parlance) to another and finally, there should be no foreign voltage
present on any conductor when the pair is opened up for testing.
A "Cross Battery" condition means that one (or both) of the conductors
are measuring foreign DC voltage when tested.
Pairs getting crossed up with DC battery is frequently the result of
lots of rain and old cable.
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More like someone didn't seal the splicing case up properly, and the
rain got into the cable. The telcos usually put pressure on the cable
to see if there are any leaks along the cable. But when they find a
leaky cable, sometimes they just keep pumping air or nitrogen to keep
the water from coming in instead of fixing it.
| Quote: | Keep after them, keep reporting trouble and *make* them fix the
problem,
even if it means having to replace old cable. You're paying good money
ecah month for service. Make sure you're getting what you are paying
for. |
If that doesn't work. complain to the state public utilities commission.
If you don't get decent service, you have the right to send your bill
payment to the PUC and they will investigate.
| Quote: | John
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Perkowski
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Cross Battery and Verizon? |
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:
| Quote: | "John P. Dearing" <John.Dearing@VerYOURPANTSizon.NET> wrote in message
news:QS6xd.478$sh5.88@trndny08...
Joe Perkowski wrote:
Does anyone know what is "cross battery"? We put in a NBX 2 months
ago running fine. Now, we are getting static and crosstalk on some
of our incoming lines.
We have had a great deal of rain these past 2 weeks, and have had
previously problems with Verizon due to old copper in our area.
A good telephone line has certain electrical characteristics. One is
that no conductor should be grounded or shorted (shunted in Telco
parlance) to another and finally, there should be no foreign voltage
present on any conductor when the pair is opened up for testing.
A "Cross Battery" condition means that one (or both) of the conductors
are measuring foreign DC voltage when tested.
Pairs getting crossed up with DC battery is frequently the result of
lots of rain and old cable.
More like someone didn't seal the splicing case up properly, and the
rain got into the cable. The telcos usually put pressure on the cable
to see if there are any leaks along the cable. But when they find a
leaky cable, sometimes they just keep pumping air or nitrogen to keep
the water from coming in instead of fixing it.
Keep after them, keep reporting trouble and *make* them fix the
problem,
even if it means having to replace old cable. You're paying good money
ecah month for service. Make sure you're getting what you are paying
for.
If that doesn't work. complain to the state public utilities commission.
If you don't get decent service, you have the right to send your bill
payment to the PUC and they will investigate.
John
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John P. Dearing
Found the problem. I went out there and found someone had punched |
something down with the old phone system wiring. I pulled out all the
old crap and problem disappearewsd. |
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