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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts corroded
so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad. It,
too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were just
black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks, the
last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX just
puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in threes..
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Justin Time
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Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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You can't do much about the pins in the jack, but have you tried some
RTV on the back of the jack? It will be a REAL pain if you have to
replace it again, but it may do some protection if the problem is due
to moisture at the punchdown side. |
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Jgolan
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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Try a old trick from my Telco days. After you replace the jack, coat the
connections and the cavity inside of the RJ with Petroleum Jelly, then
insert a new mounting cord from the telephone. I used to carry a small
tube in my toolbox for just these situations. The PJ will act as a water
blocking gel, once you stop the moisture your repeat repairs should go way
down. It should not effect the electricals of the telephone circuit. BTW
the NIDs that servive providers use also have a gell in the jack for the
customer side of the line.
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
| Quote: | Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts corroded
so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad. It,
too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were just
black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
the
last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX just
puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
threes..
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that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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James Knott
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject:
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Jgolan wrote:
| Quote: | Try a old trick from my Telco days.
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That's also an old trick, for when you replace car batteries. |
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James Knott
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Mon May 02, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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Scott Packard wrote:
| Quote: | That's also an old trick, for when you replace car batteries.
For car battery posts you're better off with wheel bearing grease.
It sort-of seals out the air, and has compounds in it to help
neutralize acids and stabilize oxidized metals.
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Or perhaps the stuff they sell in auto parts stores, specifically for the
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Scott Packard
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Mon May 02, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:52:05 -0400, James Knott wrote:
| Quote: | Jgolan wrote:
Try a old trick from my Telco days.
That's also an old trick, for when you replace car batteries.
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For car battery posts you're better off with wheel bearing grease.
It sort-of seals out the air, and has compounds in it to help
neutralize acids and stabilize oxidized metals.
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Tekkie®
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Wed May 04, 2005 6:53 am Post subject:
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" posted for all of us...
| Quote: | Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts corroded
so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad. It,
too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were just
black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks, the
last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX just
puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in threes..
I didn't see this; would it be feasable to mount the boxes to the wall surface? |
I wonder what's going on inside those walls; for all that moisture/mold.
Tekkie |
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Sat May 07, 2005 6:44 am Post subject:
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Siemon (and probably others) make jacks with gel already inside them.
Of course, I forget what they call them but I've seen them around a
lot.
charles |
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Mon May 09, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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"Jgolan" <jpgolan_at_earthlink_dot_net@foo.com> wrote in message
news:BVNce.5991176$Zm5.910564@news.easynews.com...
| Quote: | Try a old trick from my Telco days. After you replace the jack, coat
the
connections and the cavity inside of the RJ with Petroleum Jelly, then
insert a new mounting cord from the telephone. I used to carry a small
tube in my toolbox for just these situations. The PJ will act as a
water
blocking gel, once you stop the moisture your repeat repairs should go
way
down. It should not effect the electricals of the telephone circuit.
BTW
the NIDs that servive providers use also have a gell in the jack for
the
customer side of the line.
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Yeah, thanks for the good advice, everyone. Maybe we should repair the
bldgs so they don't leak water inside when it rains. :-P
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts
corroded
so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad.
It,
too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were
just
black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
the
last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX
just
puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
threes..
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Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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avcomdesign
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Fri May 27, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
| Quote: | Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts corroded
so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad. It,
too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were just
black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
the
last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX just
puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
threes..
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Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 <at> hotmail.com
Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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avcomdesign
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Fri May 27, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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The connection Charles is talking about is made to block corrosive effects
of humidity, saltwater, chemicals, water, dirt, and other contaminants.
I saw the best testament to the effectiveness of the connection in Grand
forks, North Dakota. In 99’ a flood claimed most of the city. All of the
electrical and phone services were disabled. The only connections that
worked after they activated the new phone switches on were connections
from Suttle. Complete submersed and under water for over two weeks the
connection maintain the integrity of the circuit. If you have other
underlying problem please contact me @ www.avcomdesign.com/TAC/
The specs for the jacks and how they work are linked below.
http://www.suttleonline.com/corroshield.html
AV ComDesign
Registered communication Distribution Designer
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
| Quote: | Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts corroded
so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad. It,
too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were just
black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
the
last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX just
puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
threes..
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goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the
Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 <at> hotmail.com
Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts
corroded
so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad.
It,
too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were
just
black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
the
last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX
just
puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
threes..
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Well, this week I think I've found another intermittent or dead phone
that was caused by water leaking into the bldg. The 66 block contacts
were turning green from corrosion, and the buildup of green between on
the block itself was obvious. I have to go back over next week and do
some cleaning to see if I can get it to work okay. It's an old green
can on the wall of an old bldg with a 66M4(?) block in it. Like the old
1A2 installations used wherever. If I had the time, I'd run a new cable
back to the MDF, but the cabling is tied to power conduits way up in a
garage ceiling, and I think they are much higher than 16 feet above the
ground. I taped a tone tracer on the end of a 10 foot conduit so I
could hold it up there to trace the wiring, but it's so high that I
can't reach it with my arms extended above my head. Figuring 10 feet
for the conduit and 7 feet for the height of my hands, I'm still a few
feet short of reaching it. So I don't even want to consider dragging a
huge ladder over there to do it. So if I have to, I might just cut off
the 66 block and punch the wires down on another one that's not
corroded.
Last week we had our Publications Dept move across town to a completely
new bldg. They have some very old printing presses and new
state-of-the-art Xerox machines that are out in the middle of the floor.
So they had the electric contractor come and put in power drops from the
high ceiling. Big ol' rubber cables with 3-phase, probably 12 gauge or
10 gauge stranded. They just left their ladder in the middle of the
room because the socket for the old plugs had to be special ordered and
will it be 'a few days', more like a few weeks. This ladder is at least
16 feet high, and is all aluminum. I'm thinking that these sparkies are
courting disaster with an all aluminum ladder! But then one of the
electricians has big spider webs tatooed over each of his elbows so I
guess they know what they're doing. ;-) |
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newwiringguy
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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Have you tried Suttle's Corroshield product with the gel in the jacks to
prevent corroding?
www.suttleonline.com
Newwiringguy
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
| Quote: | Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts corroded
so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad. It,
too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were just
black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
the
last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX just
puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
threes..
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Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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"newwiringguy" <peterh_at_commsysinc_dot_com@foo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Have you tried Suttle's Corroshield product with the gel in the jacks
to
prevent corroding?
www.suttleonline.com
Newwiringguy
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I don't know anything about Suttle. I use only Systimax jacks,
faceplates and surface mount boxes or the Leviton 110 series. I've
never seen any of their products with gel in them. Thanks.
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts
corroded
so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad.
It,
too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were
just
black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
the
last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX
just
puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
threes.. |
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